Lesson from the History of Apple Computer

[Chris_]

So Apple Computer was one of the first companies to offer domestic partner benefits. Some interesting points related to this are in 1993 Apple wanted to open up a manufacturing plant in Texas. Texas basically said No the first time to Apple because of their domestic partner benefit policy. The mid to late 90's  were a very tough time for the company. The stock drifted between $10 and $12 dollars a share and there was talk of Apple going away permanently. In July of 1997 Gil Amelio was ousted as CEO and Jobs came back. In August of 1997, Big Bad Bill gave Apple 150 million to develop an "Office Suite" for Apple. Many say it was a bailout. Things were not going well for Apple. So much so that in Sept 1997, Apple pulled the Texas based company Power Computing Corp's license to manufacture Apple clones. It seems that the babe was outselling papa. From 1998 to 2004 Apple's stock price hovered around $12 dollars with Steve Jobs at the helm. Six years is a long time for a turn around. Most CEOs are given four to five years to turn things around. I can't verify this, but I did send an email to Steve and it didn't bounce. I don't recall the timing, but it was somewhere between 1998 and 2004.  I contend that sometime during that time Steve instituted the benefit policy that I suggested: Offer every employee the same basic benefit package, and if the employee chooses, they go out on their own dime and add whatever benefits they deem necessary. What happens is that the company that does this no longer underwrites anti-family behavior, and they are able to pull out of the financial dive that adding domestic partner benefits did to the company. 

Lilsson

[Chris_]

Is your return key broken?

[Jim]

So the success of the ipod is a direct result of domestic partnership benefits huh.... freaky.

[Rebel]

You really can't stand gay people, can ya Lilsson?

It doesn't matter to me what a company provides it's employees. It's their business to run.

[DixieBelle]

Does your horn play any other notes?

[Zeus]

I dunno the reason but it's interesting an apple clone was outselling the real Apple.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'm OK wiht gay, it's Apple I hate.











j/k, Macolytes.  Don't get your frilly little panties in a wad.

 

[TheSarge]

Apple stayed small and had problems with profit because they refused to let every mom and pop computer manufacturer put their OS on their systems like Microsoft did.

Meanwhile MS bullied and intimidated it's way to the top.

MS was only able to make 95 work after being allowed to peek at mac source code.

The penance for that was that MS had to make a version of Office for Mac. (2008 is the last one they are obligated to make)

the iPhone iPod and the current crop of Mac PC's along with people growing disgust with Vista has made Apple the number 3 computer maker in the country and rising.

NONE of why they are successful now and were sucking wind in the 90's has anything to do with your stupid theory.

[Uhhuh35]

Is your return key broken?

Yeah, bitchslap for poor message formatting. 

[Chris_]

Does your horn play any other notes?

First of all, thanks to the vandal who added a picture to my profile without my knowledge or permission.

To answer your question, we are at a crossroads in this country, and in my opinion it boils down to what Toqueville said some time ago; To paraphrase: America is great because it is good, when America ceases to be good, it will cease to be great. I want my future grandchildren to grow up in a country with a future and a purpose. If the economy continues to tank like it has, we will become a third world country with no outside help. I am concerned enough now that I want to grow food in both the front and the back yard - just in case. We purchased Y2K packages and have since used up most of that stuff. I wish now that I hadn't. I would say the 90% of the population senses it. It could be why so many people are doped up on Ritalin, St. Johns Wort or Prozac. My horn has many tunes, but this is the tune that needs to be played now. I guess I will keep playing until it song gets heard. Exxon/Mobil and Walmart are the No1 and No2 companies in the US for a reason. Here's two companies that we can look at in the near future: UPS and FedEx, one offers and one doesn't. Guess which one doesn't?

[Chris]

First of all, thanks to the vandal who added a picture to my profile without my knowledge or permission.

A default avatar has been added to the site for users that have not uploaded one for their account.

Calm down, son.

[Chris_]

First of all, thanks to the vandal who added a picture to my profile without my knowledge or permission.

A default avatar has been added to the site for users that have not uploaded one for their account.

Calm down, son.

We live in a free society. I chose to not have a default avatar. Please remove it.   And I am as calm as they come except when I am watching a game with unfit officials. I watched the Phoenix Suns game that had the referee that is going to jail. I was not calm during that game.

[Chris]

First of all, thanks to the vandal who added a picture to my profile without my knowledge or permission.

A default avatar has been added to the site for users that have not uploaded one for their account.

Calm down, son.

We live in a free society. I chose to not have a default avatar. Please remove it.   And I am as calm as they come except when I am watching a game with unfit officials. I watched the Phoenix Suns game that had the referee that is going to jail. I was not calm during that game.

This is not a public website,.  It is privately owned, and the website owners have decided to put a default avatar in place.  However, you ARE free to change it to one that you prefer.

[Baruch Menachem]

I love my new Ipod touch.   I am not really interested in the sex life of the guy who built it.  It is such a wonderful device he now has my permission to blow goats.

I also B/Sed over the formating thing.   The return key and the period are both friends.   I wouldn't trust the semi-colon.  It tried to borrow money from me.  ~_^

[Uhhuh35]

First of all, thanks to the vandal who added a picture to my profile without my knowledge or permission.

Bitch slap for avitar ignorance!

[Chris_]

I love my new Ipod touch.   I am not really interested in the sex life of the guy who built it.  It is such a wonderful device he now has my permission to blow goats.

I also B/Sed over the formating thing.   The return key and the period are both friends.   I wouldn't trust the semi-colon.  It tried to borrow money from me.  ~_^

I am partial to double-dash -- I use it frequently.  And it ALWAYS repays its loans.

[Ptarmigan]

The reason why Apple Macs are not as popular as PCs are there no Mac clones. Yes, there were a few Mac clones, but not very many, one of them made by UMAC. Second of all, Apple has done strongly in the IPod and IPhone. Of course, Macs can operate on a PC. Just get youself a notebook computer and install Mac OS and scratch the previous brand and make it look like an Apple Mac Notebook. Mac notebooks are made by the same companies that make PC notebooks. 

[Ptarmigan]

You really can't stand gay people, can ya Lilsson?

It doesn't matter to me what a company provides it's employees. It's their business to run.

Must be Fred Phelps or one of his inbred children or grandchildren.

[Chris_]

I don't hate gays. I just want my children and grandchildren to live in a society similar (or better) than what I live in. The nuclear family is the foundation of a civilized society. When companies put any other lifestyle on the same level as the nuclear family, they will take a dive financially. Ford, GM, Chrysler, Lehman Brothers, AIG, the list is long, and it is scary because we have never been here before. Exxon/Mobil, Walmart and Apple are not subsidizing anti-family policies. That is why their stock is in good shape.  We are now in a situation where the price at the pump does not relate to the price per barrel. Why? Because investors want a return on the money, and way too much money has been invested in Exxon/Mobil because there is no other place to invest. What we need is for all of the car companies to give every employee the same basic benefit package, and if that person chooses to, the individual employee would go out and add any other packages needed. When companies stop underwriting anti-family behavior, those companies will turn around financially. It is that simple.

Lilsson

[rich_t]

I don't hate gays. I just want my children and grandchildren to live in a society similar (or better) than what I live in. The nuclear family is the foundation of a civilized society. When companies put any other lifestyle on the same level as the nuclear family, they will take a dive financially. Ford, GM, Chrysler, Lehman Brothers, AIG, the list is long, and it is scary because we have never been here before. Exxon/Mobil, Walmart and Apple are not subsidizing anti-family policies. That is why their stock is in good shape.  We are now in a situation where the price at the pump does not relate to the price per barrel. Why? Because investors want a return on the money, and way too much money has been invested in Exxon/Mobil because there is no other place to invest. What we need is for all of the car companies to give every employee the same basic benefit package, and if that person chooses to, the individual employee would go out and add any other packages needed. When companies stop underwriting anti-family behavior, those companies will turn around financially. It is that simple.

Lilsson

Personally, I'm NOT convinced that you are not a pro-gay mole.

[SaintLouieWoman]

The reason why Apple Macs are not as popular as PCs are there no Mac clones. Yes, there were a few Mac clones, but not very many, one of them made by UMAC. Second of all, Apple has done strongly in the IPod and IPhone. Of course, Macs can operate on a PC. Just get youself a notebook computer and install Mac OS and scratch the previous brand and make it look like an Apple Mac Notebook. Mac notebooks are made by the same companies that make PC notebooks. 

Apple has the reputation of being the choice of English majors(confess I stupidly majored in that field) and non-math types. I've sold to the government for many years. The government rarely uses MAC's, except in graphic applications.

Apple deserves whatever bad that happens to them. They got their start by blatantly stealing from another huge company. When I worked for that company, many years ago, I did not have to sign a non-compete, but rather an agreement to never give information on that company to a subsequent employer. MAC always came in cheaper with a bastardized version of the software developed by the other company. It was tough selling systems equipment that was 4 or more times more expensive than the Apples. I didn't like my company, told them I'd never return when I quit, but to this day have a distaste for Apple and their lack of business ethics.

[Chris_]

I don't hate gays. I just want my children and grandchildren to live in a society similar (or better) than what I live in. The nuclear family is the foundation of a civilized society. When companies put any other lifestyle on the same level as the nuclear family, they will take a dive financially. Ford, GM, Chrysler, Lehman Brothers, AIG, the list is long, and it is scary because we have never been here before. Exxon/Mobil, Walmart and Apple are not subsidizing anti-family policies. That is why their stock is in good shape.  We are now in a situation where the price at the pump does not relate to the price per barrel. Why? Because investors want a return on the money, and way too much money has been invested in Exxon/Mobil because there is no other place to invest. What we need is for all of the car companies to give every employee the same basic benefit package, and if that person chooses to, the individual employee would go out and add any other packages needed. When companies stop underwriting anti-family behavior, those companies will turn around financially. It is that simple.

Lilsson

I see you still don't know how to format paragraphs so since you don't respect your readers I won't waste my time reading your shit. Period.