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Coyotl (4,381 posts)

Operation Condor Trial Tackles Coordinated Campaign to Kill Leftists - Obama Not Cooperating

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/7/operation_condor_trial_tackles_coordinated_campaign
 
A historic trial underway in Argentina is set to reveal new details about how Latin American countries coordinated with each other in the 1970s and '80s to eliminate political dissidents. The campaign known as "Operation Condor" involved military dictatorships in Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Peru and Uruguay. They worked together to track down, kidnap and kill people they labeled as terrorists: leftist activists, labor organizers, students, priests, journalists, guerrilla fighters and their families. The campaign was launched by the Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet, and evidence shows the CIA and former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger were complicit from its outset. We're joined by John Dinges, author of "The Condor Years: How Pinochet and his Allies Brought Terrorism to Three Continents." The book brings together interviews and declassified intelligence records to reconstruct the once-secret events
 
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George Bush Sr. May Face Charges: Conspiring to Kidnap and Murder Political Activists
 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2459135
 
2007: Kissinger's extradition to Uruguay sought over Operation Condor
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2781263

Coyotl (4,381 posts)

4. This will gain traction as the trial proceeds, and the US will be forced to deal with the issue

in some way. I suspect Obama and Holder are siding with Kissinger and Bush because they have to protect a complicit US government.
 
Never forget, Obama is America's number one lawyer first. Attorney-client privilege, you know!!

Coyotl (4,381 posts)

2. Operation Condor" Was No Mystery to Washington

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/OperCondor_NoMystery_US.html
by Ángel Páez
www.ipsnews.net/, January 12, 2008


The intelligence services of Peru and Argentina kept Washington informed in real time about a 1980 joint clandestine operation in which four alleged members of Argentina's Montoneros guerrilla movement were "disappeared," according to documents declassified in the United States.
 The incident forms part of the case opened in December by Italian Judge Luisianna Figliola, who issued arrest warrants for those responsible for this and other actions carried out in the framework of Operation Condor, a coordinated plan among the military governments that ruled Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay in the 1970s and 1980s, aimed at tracking down, capturing, torturing and eliminating left-wing opponents.
 Townsend B. Friedman, political officer at the U.S. Embassy in Buenos Aires, revealed in a secret Aug. 19, 1980 memo to Claus Ruser, the ambassador's number two man, details about the operation involving the supposed Montoneros in Lima, and the fatal outcome.
 In that memo, which has now been declassified thanks to the efforts of the National Security Archive, an independent Washington-based non-governmental research institute, Friedman told his superior that an Argentine intelligence official had provided them with details of the Lima operation on Jun. 16, 1980.
 The date is key: the joint action by the Batallón 601, a special Argentine army intelligence unit, and Peru's Army Intelligence Service (SIE) was recorded four days earlier, and the purported Montoneros were turned over by Peruvian agents on Jun. 17 to Bolivian military personnel, in the presence of agents from Argentina.
 The documents show that the U.S. government was fully aware of what was happening, at the time it was occurring, and that it knew ahead of time that the alleged Montoneros would be killed. ....

Octafish (32,724 posts)

3. Poppy Bush allowed CONDOR to kill on American soil Orlando Letelier and Ronnie Moffit

Thank you for bringing us up-to-date, Coyotl. When the US got into the killing business for their political beliefs in Latin America, it was only a matter of time before the strategy would be applied in der Homeland.
 
History for those who weren't there then:

Know your BFEE: Los Amigos de Bush

Coyotl (4,381 posts)

9. Reagan and Bush should be prosecuted for the assassination of Ben Linder, an American citizen

Last edited Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:01 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Linder

Benjamin Ernest "Ben" Linder (July 7, 1959 – April 28, 1987), was an American engineer who was working on a small hydroelectric dam in rural northern Nicaragua when he was killed by the Contras, an affiliation of rebel groups funded by the U.S. government/CIA. Coming at a time when U.S. support for the Contras was already highly controversial, Linder's death made front-page headlines around the world and further polarized opinion in the United States.

Have you noticed the "victims" of anti-communist death squads are so few in number they can each be individually named.

But the internet isn't big enough to list by-name the victims of communism.

kenny blankenship (14,905 posts)

11. An interesting Wiki tidbit that emerged with the "collateral murder" dump of State Dept memos

was the revelation that the Bushler gang tried to restart Operation Condor after 9-11. Uncle Sam would be taking a leading role of course, in his Freedomlicious & Benevolent Omniscience and Wisdom, designating subversives to be tracked down and liquidated wherever they might be found throughout the hemisphere. It had once been a fruitful partnership for Uncle Sam's Terror and Political Murder Divisions. Surely, it would work again?
 
Well they got a big cold shoulder all over Latin America. ¡No to Operation Condor Dos! ¡No to CIA torture black sites! Some of the heads of state, like Brazil's Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, whom they tried to corral into their fascist crack down activities had themselves been political prisoners of rightwing govts in decades past.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-grandin/latin-america-torture_b_2712298.html

Zorra (18,056 posts)

12. More blatant sociopathic behavior by right wingers. We really need

to work for and promote genuine liberals in order to put them into representative leadership positions.
 
Conservatives are universally toxic to the well being and interests of people and the planet and they, and their insane ideas, absolutely need to be kept away from positions of power and leadership.
 
Great post, Coyotl, thanks!

Judi Lynn (75,648 posts)

14. One of the most evil, deadly, successful efforts to slaughter leftists ever devised,

and it is filthy news that this government would dream of continue to block efforts by the involved and ravaged, traumatized countries to bring the monsters to justice. Their luck should have run out so long ago. Many of them have been living comfortably in the U.S. all this time, hiding from those they tortured and those whose loved ones' lives they stole.

FARC

Shining Path

The Red Brigade

MILF

Che Gueverra

etc

etc

etc

Remind me why I'm supposed to feel bad.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022477394

[Ptarmigan]

Those military dictatorships saved them from leftist terrorism. Chile is a success story for Latin America. Argentina could of fallen totally into chaos in the early 2000s. The Argentinian dictatorship got worldwide support, even from Soviet Union. They were seen as anti-Peronist.

[GOBUCKS]

One of the most successful anti-communist actions was in Indonesia, in the 1960s, when around a million communists were killed by muzzie savages.

Unfortunately for the DUmpmonkeys, it was one democrat-favored group killing another democrat-favored group, while a democrat was in the White House, so it's never mentioned by democrats.

[Dori]

Have you noticed the "victims" of anti-communist death squads are so few in number they can each be individually named.

But the internet isn't big enough to list by-name the victims of communism.

FARC

Shining Path

The Red Brigade

MILF

Che Gueverra

etc

etc

etc

Remind me why I'm supposed to feel bad.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022477394

I have a visceral hatred for anything communist.  I put socialists and Marxists in that camp too, all branches of the same tree.

South Americans are almost all Socialists now.  

[Conservative Libertarian]

One of the most successful anti-communist actions was in Indonesia, in the 1960s, when around a million communists were killed by muzzie savages.

Unfortunately for the DUmpmonkeys, it was one democrat-favored group killing another democrat-favored group, while a democrat was in the White House, so it's never mentioned by democrats.

Even though DUmbocrats/commies/marxists have never hesitated to eat their own kind, they simply deny that fact of history.

[Ptarmigan]

One of the most successful anti-communist actions was in Indonesia, in the 1960s, when around a million communists were killed by muzzie savages.

Unfortunately for the DUmpmonkeys, it was one democrat-favored group killing another democrat-favored group, while a democrat was in the White House, so it's never mentioned by democrats.

I read about that period in Indonesia. Little known fact, Communists killed each other that time in Indonesia. They eat their own. Today, Indonesia is a considered an economic success story. Indonesians do not even talk about that period.

[DumbAss Tanker]

...In that memo, which has now been declassified thanks to the efforts of the National Security Archive, an independent Washington-based non-governmental research institute, Friedman told his superior that an Argentine intelligence official had provided them with details of the Lima operation on Jun. 16, 1980...

Ummm, wouldn't that have been during the last year of the Presidency of the noted idiot and Liberal touchstone Jimmuh Cahturd?

[jukin]

The arrogance of their ignorance continues to amaze me. They revel in being stupid.

[zeitgeist]

The arrogance of their ignorance continues to amaze me. They revel in being stupid.

No, God help 'em, they really just don't know no any better.  To miss-quote Garrison Kellor, "they all think they are above average" or on line with the self affirmations of Stuart Smalley they believe "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."  Most actually do excel at potato math.     A brief look their finances will prove that.

[Conservative Libertarian]

No, God help 'em, they really just don't know no any better.  To miss-quote Garrison Kellor, "they all think they are above average" or on line with the self affirmations of Stuart Smalley they believe "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."  Most actually do excel at potato math.     A brief look their finances will prove that.

I worked with a physicist that was a noce guy even though he was a Liberal. He was smart wrt physics but, even admitted that he could NOT balance his checkbook.

[Ptarmigan]

One of the most successful anti-communist actions was in Indonesia, in the 1960s, when around a million communists were killed by muzzie savages.

Unfortunately for the DUmpmonkeys, it was one democrat-favored group killing another democrat-favored group, while a democrat was in the White House, so it's never mentioned by democrats.

The Indonesian Communist Party (PKI) was tbe largest Communist Party outside Soviet Union and China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_killings_of_1965–1966

[BadCat]

dead south americans?

who gives a flying ****?

[Ptarmigan]

dead south americans?

who gives a flying ****?

Dead Communists and Leftists.

[Tucker]

The arrogance of their ignorance continues to amaze me. They revel in being stupid.

What really amazes me is that no matter how many time it's pointed out to them, they still think that a kangaroo world court has jurisdiction and extradition powers over US citizens.

Once again DUmmies, there is no one world Government. The UN make great targets with their nice blue helmets.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

What really amazes me is that no matter how many time it's pointed out to them, they still think that a kangaroo world court has jurisdiction and extradition powers over US citizens.

They don't THINK there is a court that has jurisdiction over (Republican-only) US presidents...

...they WANT the court to have jurisdiction over (Republican-only) US presidents.

They will repeat the lie -- and they damn well know it's a lie -- as often as it takes to convince the uninformed.

[vlad335]

Have you noticed the "victims" of anti-communist death squads are so few in number they can each be individually named.

But the internet isn't big enough to list by-name the victims of communism.

FARC

Shining Path

The Red Brigade

MILF

Che Gueverra

etc

etc

etc

Remind me why I'm supposed to feel bad.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022477394

Never heard of that group so I tried Google. Got seriously side tracked and wasted an hour.

[Mr Mannn]

Coyotl (4,381 posts)

Operation Condor Trial Tackles Coordinated Campaign to Kill Leftists - Obama Not Cooperating

Bolded the only pertinent part. Sucks to be you, DUmmies. Dead leftists are good for votes, but little else. 
Obama can't be bothered to help with this.

[Ptarmigan]

Never heard of that group so I tried Google. Got seriously side tracked and wasted an hour.

MILF=Moro Islamic Liberation Front

[Tucker]

Bolded the only pertinent part. Sucks to be you, DUmmies. Dead leftists are good for votes, but little else. 
Obama can't be bothered to help with this.

No kidding. obama is gonna get their vote whether they're dead or alive. Dead is cheaper to tend to.

[98ZJUSMC]

MILF

Never heard of that group so I tried Google. Got seriously side tracked and wasted an hour.

[BlueStateSaint]

Never heard of that group so I tried Google. Got seriously side tracked and wasted an hour.

Only an hour?

[Big Dog]

Only an hour?

Speed reader.