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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #50 on: June 28, 2012, 09:57:52 AM »
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2012, 09:58:58 AM »
I thought of another good thing: If it were 5-4 the other way, there would be a huge, huge mess. Conservatives and republicans won't break shit, we'll just vote to repeal the hell out of theis nightmare.
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2012, 09:59:15 AM »
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2012, 10:02:34 AM »
And here we go:

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Stocks extended their losses Thursday, wiping out all of the previous session's gains, amid skepticism that European leaders would be able to form a solution to tackle the ongoing debt crisis and following the Supreme Court’s ruling on the health-care bill.

The Supreme Court upheld the individual health insurance requirement in President Obama's health-care law, a victory for Democrats and Obama. Medicaid-related stocks such as Amerigroup [AGP  65.02    2.62  (+4.2%)   ] and Molina [MOH  22.41    1.09  (+5.11%)   ] jumped following the announcement.

And hospital stocks including Universal Health [UHS  40.60    1.35  (+3.44%)   ], Community Health [CYH  27.29    1.80  (+7.06%)   ] and Tenet Healthcare [THC  5.28    0.30  (+6.02%)   ] rallied.

But most managed care companies such as Cigna [CI  43.81    -1.59  (-3.5%)   ], Wellpoint [WLP  65.54    -3.95  (-5.68%)   ] and Aetna [AET  39.32    -1.64  (-4%)   ] dragged.

“It’s a pretty clear negative. Until the election [in November], public policy uncertainty was going to be on the rise, dampening business confidence,” Barry Knapp, head of U.S. equity portfolio strategy at Barclays. “This clearly plays into that theme and it leaves a whole bunch of unanswered questions….Markets were going down anyway and this is just going to be a pretty clear negative catalyst over the next or two as opposed to something to stop the bleeding.”


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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2012, 10:03:21 AM »
This will add another payroll deduction. This is the largest tax increase in American history.
I suppose your employer will be required to inform the IRS if you have a health insurance plan or not.  More paperwork for them ratting out their coworkers.
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2012, 10:03:32 AM »
Senator Mitch McConnel is going to make a statement about repealing it here soon.

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2012, 10:04:40 AM »
Senator Mitch McConnel is going to make a statement about repealing it here soon.

Now, we need only 51 votes.
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2012, 10:04:52 AM »
I thought of another good thing: If it were 5-4 the other way, there would be a huge, huge mess. Conservatives and republicans won't break shit, we'll just vote to repeal the hell out of theis nightmare.

It might not happen for a while, we will probably need the full 60 republicans in the senate
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2012, 10:05:06 AM »
I suppose your employer will be required to inform the IRS if you have a health insurance plan or not.  More paperwork for them ratting out their coworkers.

Yeah, it will be nothing but one big mess and more work. This whole thing is ridiculous.

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2012, 10:05:36 AM »
You guys aren't looking at the BIG picture. For the first time in history a precedent has been set that mandates you to buy something JUST for Damn living. They can now force you to buy ANY ****ing thing. Romney getting elected is going to fix it? Roberts stupid ass was a Damn Bush appointee. R and D. All the ****ing same. Progressive pieces of fly-covered dog shit.
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2012, 10:07:15 AM »
You guys aren't looking at the BIG picture. For the first time in history a precedent has been set that mandates you to buy something JUST for Damn living. They can now force you to buy ANY ****ing thing. Romney getting elected is going to fix it? Roberts stupid ass was a Damn Bush appointee. R and D. All the ****ing same. Progressive pieces of fly-covered dog shit.

I believe I've noted that here and elsewhere.

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2012, 10:08:04 AM »
This just in: Eric Cantor has announced that the week of July 9th (When they get back), they will start the repeal process. That is good news.

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2012, 10:08:21 AM »
How's the Dominican Republic this time of the year?
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2012, 10:08:42 AM »
There's a bright side to all of this.

The left cannot use Romneycare as a hit piece during the campaign. This is going to help Romney, big time.
Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2012, 10:09:32 AM »
This just in: Eric Cantor has announced that the week of July 9th (When they get back), they will start the repeal process. That is good news.


Read above. Doesn't matter if it's repealed. We'll be fighting these mandate battles, for EVERYTHING, till the end of time, 1 step forward, 2 steps back, losing a little liberty at every battle. This nation is done. Stick a fork in us. Ayn Rand was a Damn psychic.
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2012, 10:10:45 AM »
There's a bright side to all of this.

The left cannot use Romneycare as a hit piece during the campaign. This is going to help Romney, big time.

And they can kiss universal healthcare good-bye.  If this stands, then it'll be what we have.  If it doesn't, it won't be revisited for a long, long time.  Either way, no single-payer/universal care.

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2012, 10:11:20 AM »
You guys aren't looking at the BIG picture. For the first time in history a precedent has been set that mandates you to buy something JUST for Damn living. They can now force you to buy ANY ****ing thing. Romney getting elected is going to fix it? Roberts stupid ass was a Damn Bush appointee. R and D. All the ****ing same. Progressive pieces of fly-covered dog shit.

Reb, No they can't. They can tax you. They always could. Roberts saved the Commerce Clause.

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Had the Court ruled that the individual mandate is a proper use of federal power under the Commerce Clause, all hope would have been lost. Taxing is one thing. But the ability to issue regulations and mandates outside of the taxing power would have literally put no limits on the power of the federal government.
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2012, 10:13:27 AM »
And they can kiss universal healthcare good-bye.  If this stands, then it'll be what we have.  If it doesn't, it won't be revisited for a long, long time.  Either way, no single-payer/universal care.

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DUmmies need to hear that part. They'll go ape shit.

Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2012, 10:15:04 AM »
Read above. Doesn't matter if it's repealed. We'll be fighting these mandate battles, for EVERYTHING, till the end of time, 1 step forward, 2 steps back, losing a little liberty at every battle. This nation is done. Stick a fork in us. Ayn Rand was a Damn psychic.

That is quite possible, but I am trying to be optimistic about this.



On another note: Romney will be making a statement about this at 11:45 Am. It better be a good one!

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2012, 10:17:53 AM »
I only have 4 words:

WHAT THE ****ING HELL!!!!
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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2012, 10:17:59 AM »
Since we are taxing people for not having health insurance, how about we tax the leaches for not working?  :panic:

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2012, 10:18:31 AM »
Since we are taxing people for not having health insurance, how about we tax the leaches for not working?  :panic:

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2012, 10:21:59 AM »
Please re-read what Splashdown wrote.  It makes a lot of sense:

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Reb, No they can't. They can tax you. They always could. Roberts saved the Commerce Clause.

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"Had the Court ruled that the individual mandate is a proper use of federal power under the Commerce Clause, all hope would have been lost. Taxing is one thing. But the ability to issue regulations and mandates outside of the taxing power would have literally put no limits on the power of the federal government."

It only takes 51 votes to repeal a tax.

I'm having all kinds of knee-jerk reactions internally over this, but we really need to keep our heads and read up on some analysis. 

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Re: Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2012, 10:22:53 AM »
Racist.  /DUmode

Hey I want white leaches to pay too.  :lmao: