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DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« on: June 27, 2012, 11:00:40 PM »
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Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:22 PM
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I hope the Supreme Court kills the Affordable Health Care Act. ALL of it.
A good chunk of voters will be really pissed. The Republicans have NO alternative.

Denial of benefits due to pre-existing conditions. Kids 26 and under kicked off their parents' health care insurance. Small businesses don't get their tax credits for insuring their employees.

Single payer is back on the table, folks. Democrats, IF they seize on this, can make some serious political hay out of this.

Am I wrong? Aren't we better off in the long run here? We might just get single payer out of this?!

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Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:28 PM
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7. Thanks, that's what I'm asking.

Yeah, some will suffer and some will die. But if we do NOTHING, the suffering will become even worse. And no, it can't go another 20 years. The system is broken. Something has to happen.



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Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:26 PM
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5. so you are saying I should die?

really?

thanks

Once again, Pam reminds us that every cloud has a silver lining.


 
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2012, 11:03:24 PM »
A) People will be no worse off that they were a year or so ago when this monstrosity was passed
B) I've yet to meet anybody, other than "kids" under 27 who are on their parent's insurance who can tell me how they personally have benefited from this bill
C) A 26 year old is not a "kid" they are an adult, and should be able to get their own insurance.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2012, 11:11:38 PM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on June 27, 2012, 11:03:24 PM
A) People will be no worse off that they were a year or so ago when this monstrosity was passed
B) I've yet to meet anybody, other than "kids" under 27 who are on their parent's insurance who can tell me how they personally have benefited from this bill
C) A 26 year old is not a "kid" they are an adult, and should be able to get their own insurance.


The insurance companys will hapily keep the kids on their parents plan.  The parents don't get that coverage for free & if they were on their own, most kids will blow off health ins.

I am personally sickened by the dummies who are unwilling to sacrifice their lives to prove the SC wrong.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 04:19:03 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on June 27, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
Once again, Pam reminds us that every cloud has a silver lining.

Coffee, meet monitor!  H5!

And, . . .

Quote from: Bad Dog on June 27, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
I am personally sickened by the dummies who are unwilling to sacrifice their lives to prove the SC wrong.

So am I.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 05:02:21 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on June 27, 2012, 11:00:40 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002865368

 

 
Once again, Pam reminds us that every cloud has a silver lining.


 

Has Pam beat her intestinal cancer (flatulence)?

I don't recall her discussing it one way or another.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 05:10:52 AM »
Quote from: Tucker on June 28, 2012, 05:02:21 AM
Has Pam beat her intestinal cancer (flatulence)?

I don't recall her discussing it one way or another.

I can't remember if it was brought up here or elsewhere...but she does make mention of it recently in regards to the ACA.

ETA: Found it.  Looks like she's still suffering from it...at least for political purposes:

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The ACA ruling is personal for me and a lot of people. Lives hang in the balance
The Chemical Therapy I take every six weeks has lost it's effect and my doctors are talking about the next step but the SC decision could affect further plans.

Since my DX and 8 hospital stays in the last 3 years and the successive "chemo" every 6 weeks with the additional injection to make it last longer I have almost maxed my "lifetime coverage" If that part of th ACA is struck down, it will affect the rest of my life and the "quality" of it as well.


This decision is personal for me and a LOT Of other people


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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 05:30:17 AM »
Quote from: txradioguy on June 28, 2012, 05:10:52 AM
I can't remember if it was brought up here or elsewhere...but she does make mention of it recently in regards to the ACA.

ETA: Found it.  Looks like she's still suffering from it...at least for political purposes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002856700


h/t BamaMoose

Thanks.

Read the thread. All I can say is "UGH!"
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 05:48:35 AM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on June 27, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
The insurance companys will hapily keep the kids on their parents plan.  The parents don't get that coverage for free & if they were on their own, most kids will blow off health ins.

I am personally sickened by the dummies who are unwilling to sacrifice their lives to prove the SC wrong.
Yep.  I put my daughter back on my plan, and my costs went up by about 150%.  As she has so far cost them 1 doctor's appointment and 2 prescriptions, I figure they're making out like bandits.   ::)
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 06:28:38 AM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on June 28, 2012, 05:48:35 AM
Yep.  I put my daughter back on my plan, and my costs went up by about 150%.  As she has so far cost them 1 doctor's appointment and 2 prescriptions, I figure they're making out like bandits.   ::)

Agreed. I went without healthcare from about the age of 18 to 23. It's a gamble most young people are willing to take since odds are stacked in their favor that what they need, they will be able to handle in that time.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 06:34:54 AM »
My 21 year old son is not on my insurance; and he opted not to get insurance at his job. He's been to the doctor a total of ZERO times in the last two years; and he's only gotten sick twice. A couple of doses of Nyquil and he's fine.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2012, 06:54:22 AM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on June 28, 2012, 05:48:35 AM
Yep.  I put my daughter back on my plan, and my costs went up by about 150%.  As she has so far cost them 1 doctor's appointment and 2 prescriptions, I figure they're making out like bandits.   ::)

Our son was never off our insurance (he is 23). As long as he was in college he was covered. Over the years he has cost them two trips to the doctor, once he needed antibiotics  (sinus) the other was just viral. I'm betting most insurance companies will be keeping the 26/kid thing, they are making money.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2012, 07:05:39 AM »
YOu know. I'll be totally honest with you all about this disaster of a healthcare bill. Given the current situation and based on the income level I'm at, the burden of this both through taxes and higher premiums actually would make me consider leaving work again as a single parent receiving child support and get on the government tit. Now I have pride of course, but this is the unintended consequence of this--I do understand how at some point people ask why am I jeopardizing the care and time with my family to take home a pittance because I'm supporting other people whose paramount concern is not raising a healthy family. At some point, my own finances dictate that I'd be better off financially collecting the various assistance along with support for the kids rather then working. I'm only pointing this out to show how at a certain middle class income level, this turns into the ridiculousness that unemployment did. A lot of good and even moral/principled people may just throw the towel in in defeat and add one(or 2, 3, 4, 5) more to the overburdened cog. I think the leaches don't seem to grasp that at some point people will join them rather then continue to support them and then what? Eventually, at least in my view, the principled people when it falls apart will rebuild and leave the leaches in the dust. The leaches and loungabouts ultimately support these things to their own demise eventually and the disheartening realities it creates for the TRUE middle class threatens to suck a lot of good people down to the level of the leach class.  Just pisses me off that things like this are pulling the dreams of people to be self-sufficient and build strong futures.  :rant:
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2012, 07:09:04 AM »
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5. so you are saying I should die?

really?

thanks


PAM DAWSON HAS A CADILLAC PLAN THROUGH THE STATE EDUCATION SYSTEM. 

She's always doing that.  "Without the ACA, I'll croak for sure!!!"  With it, you'll croak even sooner, Pam. All the doctors will have gone fishing. 
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2012, 08:05:48 AM »
Quote from: Karin on June 28, 2012, 07:09:04 AM
She's always doing that.  "Without the ACA, I'll croak for sure!!!"  With it, you'll croak even sooner, Pam. All the doctors will have gone fishing. 

No great loss.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2012, 08:32:52 AM »
I cannot wait for the DUmmies head to explode when they find out Sotomayor is going to help strike Obamacare down in a 6-3 vote.   :yahoo:
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2012, 08:54:40 AM »
Seeing that 75% of the country does not want this thing. I can't see too many people being upset about it, if it is shot down. About the only ones that will be are the socialists and communists.

Oh wait, the DUmp is full of socialists and communists. So yeah, they would be upset.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2012, 09:00:59 AM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on June 28, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
Seeing that 75% of the country does not want this thing. I can't see too many people being upset about it, if it is shot down. About the only ones that will be are the socialists and communists.

Oh wait, the DUmp is full of socialists and communists. So yeah, they would be upset.

Hey, they don't like it either. In those 2,700+ pages, there wasn't enough "freebies for me" and "tax the evil rich" to make them happy.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2012, 09:02:47 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on June 28, 2012, 09:00:59 AM
Hey, they don't like it either. In those 2,700+ pages, there wasn't enough "freebies for me" and "tax the evil rich" to make them happy.

Them and their pathetic entitlement complex.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2012, 09:11:55 AM »
Even the kos kiddies are running in circles over this.  :panic:
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If a DUmpmonkey also posts at KOs, is he/she/it, a KUmmie?  :-)

Have fun with that one.  :lmao:
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2012, 09:17:25 AM »
Well, one of the good things about losing this is that it virtually guarantees that the independents will vote for Romney in November, and we can get rid of this.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2012, 09:17:58 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on June 28, 2012, 09:17:25 AM
Well, one of the good things about losing this is that it virtually guarantees that the independents will vote for Romney in November, and we can get rid of this.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss Healthcare
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2012, 09:39:21 AM »
It will be interesting to see the various reactions across Internetland in the next few hours.  So now it's considered a "tax."  To be lovingly embraced?
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2012, 09:59:09 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on June 28, 2012, 09:17:25 AM
Well, one of the good things about losing this is that it virtually guarantees that the independents will vote for Romney in November, and we can get rid of this.

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