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Offline ReardenSteel

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Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« on: September 27, 2008, 11:58:15 PM »
Congressional Leaders Announce Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations

Congressional leaders and the Bush administration last night struck a historic accord to insert the government deeply into the nation's financial markets, agreeing to spend up to $700 billion to relieve Wall Street of troubled assets backed by faltering home mortgages.

Negotiators emerged from a marathon session in the Capitol about 12:30 a.m. to announce that they had reached agreement on a proposal to give Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. broad authority to organize one of the biggest government interventions in the private sector since the Great Depression.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/28/AR2008092800064.html
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Re: Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2008, 12:09:06 AM »
Just wanted to add a thought...



... EVERYBODY PANIC!



 :p



Seriously though. ****.  :(
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2008, 12:34:30 AM »
There goes our next step into socialism

Give the government control of private property.

The America that I grew up in is DEAD!

R.I.P. America.  You had a pretty good run as far as democratic styled governments go.
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Re: Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2008, 11:33:44 AM »
Comparison of original Paulson bailout to compromise proposal

House Republican Whip Roy Blunt's office provides this side-by-side comparison of Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's original Wall Street bailout proposal with the final compromise agreed to over the weekend by congressional and Treasury negotiators:

http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/TapscottsCopyDesk/Comparison_of_original_Paulson_bailout_to_compromise_proposal.html


I haven't read this yet.  I have some errands to run; I'll check it out later.
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Re: Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2008, 12:51:05 PM »
Well, Democracy was great while it lasted.


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Re: Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2008, 02:45:36 PM »
Well, Im certainly not thrilled, but the compromise (as it stands for the moment) is far better than the original plan.

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Re: Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2008, 05:44:44 PM »
 :agree: Getting rid of the giveaway to ACORN and the other 'community' groups was certainly a positive change. My attitude about the bail out would be a lot better if they would throw a few million my way.

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Re: Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2008, 06:02:38 PM »
Mark to market evaluation is the proximate cause of the problem here. We are pretending that all the bricks and moarter attached to the mortgagees have ZERO value because the bundled mortgagees have no buyers TODAY. aND THEY HAVE NONE BECAUSE THERE'S A TEMPORARY REAL ESTATE GLUT , something which began over a year ago. The mortgages, seperately, have value. Over 90% are still being paid and are current. They are still solid investments, but, today, we are overbuilt. So the valus of the asset has declined some. So the people who buy the bundles take a vacation, and those holding them now have an asset that M TO M requires be valued at AERO dollars. Madmess, that needs to be fixed, but SO FAR  THE WITLESS WONDERS IN DC havent addressed eliminatimng this yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_to_market

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Re: Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2008, 06:47:08 PM »
Can you imagine if Russia did this?  We'd be screaming Communism is BACK!!
Now WE are doing it.  RIP...This is the beginning of the end of Capitalism.  The liberals are smiling.

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Re: Breakthrough in Bailout Bill Negotiations
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2008, 07:53:24 PM »
Can you imagine if Russia did this?  We'd be screaming Communism is BACK!!
Now WE are doing it.  RIP...This is the beginning of the end of Capitalism.  The liberals are smiling.

Indeed. Not that it will make a difference but no one representing me right now in Congress will get my vote again. I'll abstain from voting if I have to. I'm done.

The bummer is one of my representatives is running for President so I'm stuck there.  :banghead:
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