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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: mrclose on November 30, 2017, 06:50:32 PM
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FU$%ING @ZZHOLE JURORS! :argh:
SAN FRANCISCO — After nearly a week of deliberations, a jury of six men and six women found an undocumented immigrant accused of fatally shooting 32-year-old Kate Steinle two years ago at San Francisco’s Pier 14 not guilty of homicide.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/11/30/kate-steinle-shooting-jury-reaches-verdict/
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All they got him on was the felony use of a semiautomatic firearm by a felon. I do have to say that my classmate, on FNC, is incredulous that the prosecution couldn't even get an involuntary manslaughter conviction. I have to say that I feel the same way that she does.
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I know it's a bad time but I wonder if the parents have had a change of heart over "Sanctuary Cities?"
Kate Steinle's parents came out in 2015 and said they didn't like the use of the term "Kate's Law" for the Federal law under consideration to cut funding to sanctuary cities because they were not necessarily against sanctuary cities.
“We didn’t have a stance against sanctuary city,” Jim Steinle said in 2015, adding “We wanted to make darn sure that people understand that, because that’s kind of the hot-button issue locally.”
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/341137-kate-steinles-father-we-didnt-coin-kates-law
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san francisco jury.....
nuff said
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Politically motivated verdict.
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Disgusting.
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Politically motivated verdict.
yep
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The AP reported that ICE will deport him when he is released from jail.
**** that, they need to see if there are any federal charges they can bring.
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The AP reported that ICE will deport him when he is released from jail.
**** that, they need to see if there are any federal charges they can bring.
Isn't the one they did convict him on--possession of a firearm by a felon--a Federal charge?
I'd like to see him 'deported' from a C-130 at 30,000 feet--no parachute, just drop the back door and push him out. :rant: :argh: :thatsright:
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All this should show us all just how screwed, blued, and tattooed the so-called "justice" system is, at least in Commiefornia.
That said, we should (but won't) figure out that illegal immigration is the first step in what might become a series of illegal behaviors. Not all illegals are violent criminals, but they damned sure are criminals nonetheless.
Too many bleeding hearts these days, who want to follow the example set by Europe. And we see just what's become of that f'n hellhole.
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Correct me if I'm wrong in believing what MSM fok have reported, but my understanding is that Steinle was hit by the bullet after it ricocheted. IOW, the gun was not aimed at her. As POed as I am by the simple fact that had SFPD cooperated with the Feds and the Feds had done their job (doubtful during the Obama MALAdministration) Kate Steimle would be alive today, that simple fact which proves that the gun was not aimed at her, precluded any degree of murder. BSS is correct, IMO, negligent homicide should have been among the charges against the guy. His defense that, "I picked up and the gun went off," was all but an admission of guilt on a negligent homicide charge.
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The fact that he fired the gun is enough that he should be responsible for her death. If you go out in your yard and fire a gun in the air and the bullet hits some one you are responsible.
Also the POS lawyers for him had to use this as an opportunity to slam Trump, that really pissed me off as well. :argh: :censored: :bird: :rant:
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Correct me if I'm wrong in believing what MSM fok have reported, but my understanding is that Steinle was hit by the bullet after it ricocheted. IOW, the gun was not aimed at her. As POed as I am by the simple fact that had SFPD cooperated with the Feds and the Feds had done their job (doubtful during the Obama MALAdministration) Kate Steimle would be alive today, that simple fact which proves that the gun was not aimed at her, precluded any degree of murder. BSS is correct, IMO, negligent homicide should have been among the charges against the guy. His defense that, "I picked up and the gun went off," was all but an admission of guilt on a negligent homicide charge.
Based on what I've read, one of the many stories Zarate told investigators (and the most plausible) is that he fired randomly in the crowd on purpose. Whether it ricocheted or not is irrelevant.
There are very few scenarios where I see a jury in SF acquitting someone charged with an offense using a gun, especially one that results in death. This would be one of those (favored groups murdering less favored or even hated groups).
What's even more grotesque is the the comments by the defense attorneys after the verdict.
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This was a California jury. The same California that couldn't convict OJ, the cops that beat Rodney King and it took them twice before they got the Menedez brothers. They have better luck convicting the innocent (McMartin Preschool),
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All they got him on was the felony use of a semiautomatic firearm by a felon. I do have to say that my classmate, on FNC, is incredulous that the prosecution couldn't even get an involuntary manslaughter conviction. I have to say that I feel the same way that she does.
You REALLY think a majority His and Her Panic jury in Mexico North is going to convict a brown illegal alien of ANYTHING?
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You REALLY think a majority His and Her Panic jury in Mexico North is going to convict a brown illegal alien of ANYTHING?
Did you read BSS's first sentence? Or a news report about this trial? The guy was convicted by that jury on the charge of being a felon and using a gun.
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Did you read BSS's first sentence? Or a news report about this trial? The guy was convicted by that jury on the charge of being a felon and using a gun.
That charge is a State charge, not a Federal one, if I'm reading this correctly. I think I heard that it carries a sentence of 2 years in State prison. The Feds are weighing whether or not the can bring Federal charges.
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Here is a relevant quote from an article by a prosecutor in the LA area:
Lawsplainer: The California Homicide Statutes Relevant To The Steinle Murder Case (https://www.redstate.com/patterico/2017/12/01/lawsplainer-california-homicide-statutes-relevant-steinle-murder-case/)
If Zarate had pointed a gun at Kate Steinle and willfully pulled the trigger, knowing that act could kill her, he would have been guilty of at least second-degree murder. If he had intended to kill her and acted with premeditation and deliberation, he would have been guilty of first-degree murder. The jury clearly didn’t buy either scenario, which (as Sarah Rumpf explained earlier) is hardly shocking, given that the single fatal shot ricocheted off of the ground, and the interview of the defendant did not clearly establish that he pulled the trigger (as opposed to discharging the gun accidentally).
But what about this idea that he was negligent? This is what seems to outrage people: surely this was at least criminally negligent homicide!
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So what is criminal negligence in California? The instructions that a judge reads to jurors say, in part:
Criminal negligence involves more than ordinary carelessness, inattention, or mistake in judgment. A person acts with criminal negligence when:
1. He or she acts in a reckless way that creates a high risk of death or great bodily injury;
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2. A reasonable person would have known that acting in that way would create such a risk.
In other words, a person acts with criminal negligence when the way he or she acts is so different from the way an ordinarily careful person would act in the same situation that his or her act amounts to disregard for human life or indifference to the consequences of that act.
1. Involuntary Manslaughter is something the jury would have considered.
2. Ordinary carelessness is not criminal negligence.
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Did you read BSS's first sentence? Or a news report about this trial? The guy was convicted by that jury on the charge of being a felon and using a gun.
Yes,I read it,and dismissed it because the conviction was for BS charge,and he is going to walk.
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Yes,I read it,and dismissed it because the conviction was for BS charge,and he is going to walk.
DOJ demands custody of Steinle killer
The Trump administration moved Friday to claim custody of the illegal immigrant who killed Kate Steinle, saying he violated the terms of his probation and should be sent back to federal prison. The move is aimed at taking Jose Inez Garcia Zarate away from California officials, after a jury in that state acquitted him Thursday of murder and manslaughter charges stemming from the Steinle killing. A Justice Department official said there’s an existing federal detainer requiring Garcia Zarate to be remanded to U.S. Marshals and sent to a federal court in Texas to answer for the probation violation.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/1/doj-demands-custody-steinle-killer/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
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A Justice Department official said there’s an existing federal detainer requiring Garcia Zarate to be remanded to U.S. Marshals and sent to a federal court in Texas to answer for the probation violation.
Come on down! We'd love to show ol' Zarate a good time down here in the great state of Tejas. :naughty:
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Yes,I read it,and dismissed it because the conviction was for BS charge,and he is going to walk.
He was convicted of a felony, and faces two years in prison. Places like San Quentin, Folsom, and Soledad are not resorts, and those are the kind of place he'd end up.
Much as I wish it were more, it's what the evidence proved. He would not have gotten murder of any degree in any state, based on the evidence. The fact that the bullet ricocheted off the ground proves he was not aiming at Kate Steinle or anyone else, and therefore Kate Steinle's death was not murder. Maybe in states with a looser definition of negligence - if there are any - he might have gotten involuntary manslaughter.
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Illegal Alien Acquitted of Murdering Kate Steinle Sues Feds for ‘Vindictive Prosecution’
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/03/15/kate-steinle-garcia-zarate-sues-federal-government-vindictive-prosecution-collusion/
Jose Inez Garcia-Zarate, the illegal alien acquitted last year of murdering 32-year-old Kate Steinle in July 2015, has sued the federal government, demanding that it produce documents “pertaining to vindictive prosecution and collusion” with the state government in its prosecution against him.
In November, a San Francisco jury found Garcia-Zarate not guilty of murdering Steinle, agreeing that although he had the gun from which the fatal shot was fired, the discharge could have been accidental.
The jury did convict Garcia-Zarate of felony possession of a weapon. He had seven previous felony convictions and had been deported five times before finding “sanctuary” on the streets of San Francisco, a noted “sanctuary city.”
Vindictive Prosecution? Can anyone explain that? He killed Kate Steinle and got acquitted.
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Illegal Alien Acquitted of Murdering Kate Steinle Sues Feds for ‘Vindictive Prosecution’
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/03/15/kate-steinle-garcia-zarate-sues-federal-government-vindictive-prosecution-collusion/
Vindictive Prosecution? Can anyone explain that? He killed Kate Steinle and got acquitted.
Just another example of how, in this system that's become mind-numbingly stupid, the illegal perp becomes the victim. Wouldn't surprise me one iota that the perp wins the lawsuit and collects $220K per year in perpetuity. And a green card, of course, all courtesy of the taxpayer.
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Jose Inez Garcia-Zarate, the illegal alien acquitted last year of murdering 32-year-old Kate Steinle in July 2015, has sued the federal government, demanding that it produce documents “pertaining to vindictive prosecution and collusion” with the state government in its prosecution against him.
this guy needs to have a meeting with Mr. Mayhem...
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this guy needs to have a meeting with Mr. Mayhem...
He needs to have a meeting with 12 rounds of 9mm +p hollow points