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Title: Why Some Scientists Embrace the 'Multiverse'
Post by: Rawlings on July 13, 2013, 03:18:50 PM
Dennis Prager
Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Last week, in Nice, France, I was privileged to participate, along with 30 scholars, mostly scientists and mathematicians, in a conference on the question of whether the universe was designed, or at least fine-tuned, to make life, especially intelligent life. Participants -- from Yale, Princeton, Harvard, Berkeley and Columbia among other American and European universities -- included believers in God, agonistics and atheists. . . .

http://www.dennisprager.com/columns.aspx?g=acc9936f-676f-4d7a-9cec-6716f00b835c&url=why-some-scientists-embrace-the-multiverse-n1621935
Title: Re: Why Some Scientists Embrace the 'Multiverse'
Post by: marv on July 13, 2013, 04:52:18 PM
Intelligent Design is only faith masquerading as science.
Title: Re: Why Some Scientists Embrace the 'Multiverse'
Post by: FlaGator on July 13, 2013, 06:58:41 PM
Dennis Prager
Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Last week, in Nice, France, I was privileged to participate, along with 30 scholars, mostly scientists and mathematicians, in a conference on the question of whether the universe was designed, or at least fine-tuned, to make life, especially intelligent life. Participants -- from Yale, Princeton, Harvard, Berkeley and Columbia among other American and European universities -- included believers in God, agonistics and atheists. . . .

http://www.dennisprager.com/columns.aspx?g=acc9936f-676f-4d7a-9cec-6716f00b835c&url=why-some-scientists-embrace-the-multiverse-n1621935

Some scientists will consider anything to avoid considering God as an alternative.
Title: Re: Why Some Scientists Embrace the 'Multiverse'
Post by: Rawlings on July 14, 2013, 02:23:51 PM
Intelligent Design is only faith masquerading as science.

The rational forms and logical categories of human consciousness, including the classic laws of logic, the fundamental operations of human apprehension (the analogous, the univocal and the metaphoric) and the ontological imperatives of origin demonstrate that the conclusion that God must be is perfectly rational, and the unqualified rejection of intelligent design is the stuff of sheer fanaticism, more at the unwitting imposition of a metaphysical naturalism on reality, as opposed to the pre-Darwinian mechanistic naturalism of the likes of Copernicus, Galileo, Bacon, Newton. . . .

Metaphysical naturalism is the philosophy of some masquerading as the only rational or legitimate presupposition for science.  In some cases, it's the arrogance and the sneer of a mind as closed as a slammed shut door.

As for science itself, it cannot affirm or falsify the existence of God; however, this does not necessarily mean that the discoveries of science in the light of reason do not point toward God's existence.  Some mistake the limitations of science for the limitations of reality itself.

As for multiverse theory, the fact of the matter is that there may very well be other universes beyond the cosmological horizon and/or "the other side" of the gravitational energy of a pre-Big Bang quantum vacuum.  And if there are . . . this would have no affirmative bearing whatsoever on the existence or non-existence of God either!  And while the notion of a multiverse matrix may be unfalsifiable, we are searching for patterns of collisions with other universes in cosmic microwave background radiation and for evidence of the gravitational effects of other universes on ours.

http://m.technologyreview.com/view/421999/astronomers-find-first-evidence-of-other-universes/
http://phys.org/news/2010-12-scientists-evidence-universes.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/proof-of-a-multiverse-discovered
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/universe-age-planck-space-probe-date-big-bang_n_2922818.html#TID=TData=
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Planck/Planck_and_the_cosmic_microwave_background
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/universe-age-planck-space-probe-date-big-bang_n_2922818.html

In any event, the notion that the rational considerations of a divine origin and design of material existence is incompatible with the concerns or the findings of science is nonsense as Planck himself, the father of quantum physics, rightly observed:  "Both Religion and science require a belief in God. For believers, God is in the beginning, and for physicists He is at the end of all considerations… To the former He is the foundation, to the latter, the crown of the edifice of every generalized world view."


As for Planck's presumptuous and indemonstrable and teleological repudiation of the mysticism and the miracles of Judeo-Christianity, for example, as if his pronouncement in this wise were anything else but the stuff of just another opinion, as if the fallen state of mankind and Christ's sacrificial atonement unto life everlasting for whosoever will were overthrown by it:  nobody's perfect.   :-)
Title: Re: Why Some Scientists Embrace the 'Multiverse'
Post by: obumazombie on July 14, 2013, 02:37:24 PM
^Powerful treatise.