And on the subject of murder- Should 13 YO's be tries as adults

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Archae (24,184 posts)

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Should a 13-year old murderer be tried as an adult?

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Here in Sheboygan we have that controversy occurring.

Two 13-year old punks killed one of the punk's Grandma with a hatchet and a hammer, ransacked her house, then went out for pizza.

Both are facing life without parole for the crimes.

I say yes, they both should be tried as adults.
There is just *NO* excuse for what they did.

Iris (13,316 posts)
3. No. n/t

Warpy (64,956 posts)
4. They're not adults.

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The crime is heinous but kids that young are still doing a lot of magical thinking.

WTF.

Nye Bevan (7,946 posts)
5. I call bullshit on this whole "trying them as an adult" concept.

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A kid is a kid and should be tried as a kid.

Yeah. A kid Goat at a muslim wedding.

Betsy Ross (2,802 posts)
7. Absolutely not!

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No matter how heinous the crime. WE KNOW the teenage brain IS NOT the same as an adult's.

And we know that an adult DUmmies brain is not as advanced as a conservative's brain. Where does a teenage DUmmy rate?

porphyrian (17,175 posts)
8. "Tried as adults" means "possible death penalty" in many states.

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They should be held responsible as adults for murdering, but not necessarily "tried as adults." Make sense?

No it doesn't. Take another hit on the bong.  

Agnosticsherbet (345 posts)
12. No!

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The brain is not finished forming until about the age of 20.

No 13-year old, no matter how heinous the crime, should ever be tried as an adult, ever.

Jackpine Radical (34,210 posts)
16. I strongly disagree with adult sentencing of (miGod!) 13 year-olds.

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They just aren't fully human yet.

I've been "inside" a number of murder cases, and sometimes your view of everything about the case changes as you find out more about the people involved.

Does that mean that they can still be aborted?

Taverner (50,103 posts)
21. No. And I don't think the DP should be an option.

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Life in prison, sure.

And they ARE children, so they should be tried like children

[GOBUCKS]

I think a couple of days ago one of the DUmmies opined that a person had reached adulthood at 31.

[Tucker]

I think a couple of days ago one of the DUmmies opined that a person had reached adulthood at 31.

I read that a persons maturity ceases when they start doing drugs or heavy amounts of alcohol. If they are 16 when they become substance abusers, and continue for 30 years, at the age of 46 they have the maturity of a 16 year old.

DUmmies have two strikes against them without substance abuse.

[Duke Nukum]

Betsy Ross (2,802 posts)
7. Absolutely not!

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No matter how heinous the crime. WE KNOW the teenage brain IS NOT the same as an adult's.

And a DUmmie brain is not the same as a human brain but you still know it is wrong to butcher your fellow DUmmie's grandmother, ransack her house, and go out for pizza, right?

[Evil_Conservative]

You would want them charged as adults if it was your loved one who was murdered.

[thundley4]

Agnosticsherbet (345 posts)
12. No!

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The brain is not finished forming until about the age of 20.

Then why let 18 year morons vote?

[Flame]

So at 13 their brains aren't developed enough to know that killing someone with a hatchet is wrong, but a girl at 13 is mature enough to make her own choices about sex, birth control and abortion without parental influence??

 

[Carl]

So at 13 their brains aren't developed enough to know that killing someone with a hatchet is wrong, but a girl at 13 is mature enough to make her own choices about sex, birth control and abortion without parental influence??

 

End of discussion...H5