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Title: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 18, 2018, 10:26:58 PM
Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘dine and dash’ fears
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chipotle-fires-manager-who-refused-to-serve-black-customers-but-restaurant-admits-they-might-have-failed-to-pay-for-meals-before

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The restaurant chain Chipotle announced Saturday that it had terminated one of its managers for suggesting in a viral video that five black customers were planning to order food without paying -- but on Sunday, the company acknowledged to Fox News that it was considering re-hiring the manager because her suspicions may have been well-founded.

In a series of video clips seen more than 3 million times on Twitter, a Chipotle customer in St. Paul, Minn., identifed as 21-year-old Masud Ali, and several friends are told by a manager: "You gotta pay, because you’ve never had money when you come in here.” An employee adds, "We're not gonna make food unless you guys actually have money."

As Ali and his friends complain about "stereotypes," the videos show employees at the store claiming that the group had previously ordered food on two occasions without paying. The store manager also calls the police in the videos, which were recorded and uploaded by Ali.

Dine and dash.  :mental:
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: SVPete on November 19, 2018, 08:37:49 AM
Sounds like a case of stupid corporate haste. FF managers usually got to that position by working the tails off, entailing lots of experience. Chipotle poohed the screwch by reacting without knowledge. And besides losing valuable people (probably) also fed the Victim Industry.
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: Eupher on November 19, 2018, 09:09:36 AM
OK, I don't do Chipotle, so I'm a little slow on the process.

Customer goes through the line and the servers prepare the plate. Burrito, rice, beans, whatever.

What server actually gives the food to the "customer" before being paid?

This ain't passing the smell test....

ETA: Based on the tweets and the other bullshit posted by the criminals who like to steal food and brag about it, not only should that manager be hired back, but she should receive a bonus for being knowledgeable enough about the "customer" to want to protect the company against thievery.

And then there not only needs to be an announcement about all of this, there should also be a statement that anyone attempting a "dine and dash" will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And then procedures need to be tightened, based on risk (St. Paul is apparently a risky place to run a fast food joint) to have a customer order what they want, have it paid for, and then proceed building it.
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: SVPete on November 19, 2018, 11:52:48 AM
My guess is that the store manager or an employee spotted and recognized them as previous dine-and-dashers while they were still in line. Then when they got to the point where they start their order, the manager stepped in and told them, "Show me the money," before work was started on their order. That part makes sense.

What does not make sense is that without speaking with the manager and coworkers or verifying from security footage that these were known dine-and-dashers, Chipotle Corporate knuckled under to Race Card players. The messages that sent are toxic:

* Chipotle Corporate told its employees that they do not trust them and will act without knowledge when complaints are received;

* Chipotle Corporate told Race Card players they can commit fraud with impunity.
Title: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: J P Sousa on November 19, 2018, 01:04:58 PM
This all sounds like democrat entitlement mentality.

This happens quite a bit lately.
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: Eupher on November 19, 2018, 02:02:54 PM

What does not make sense is that without speaking with the manager and coworkers or verifying from security footage that these were known dine-and-dashers, Chipotle Corporate knuckled under to Race Card players. The messages that sent are toxic:

* Chipotle Corporate told its employees that they do not trust them and will act without knowledge when complaints are received;

* Chipotle Corporate told Race Card players they can commit fraud with impunity.

Agreed. Standard procedure is to say the matter is under investigation before saying anything else.
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 20, 2018, 10:11:56 PM
St. Paul Chipotle manager says she was standing up for her employees
http://www.startribune.com/chipotle-offers-job-back-to-fired-st-paul-manager/500859691/

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Chipotle on Monday offered a manager her job back after she was fired for not serving five black men last week, an incident captured in a video thread that went viral.

Dominique Moran, the manager at the Grand Avenue Chipotle in St. Paul, said she had her team’s best interest in mind when she repeatedly refused service to the group of men Thursday night. She was surprised that Chipotle initially fired her and hasn’t decided if she will return to her job with the store.

“I was obviously trying to do the right thing,” Moran said Monday. “I told Chipotle to tell the boys I say sorry. ... I didn’t think I would lose my job, I thought I did something good by standing up for my people.”

Dominique Moran should of never been fired in the first place.

‘I’m NOT a racist': Chipotle manager, who was fired after asking a serial dine-and-dasher to pay before ordering, breaks her silence and reveals she HASN'T decided whether to take her job back
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6407551/Chipotle-manager-fired-called-racist-offered-job-back.html

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The Chipotle manager who was controversially fired and called a racist for asking a serial dine-and-dasher to pay before ordering has revealed she has 'officially' been offered her job back after thousands rallied behind her.

Dominique Marie Moran, 23, lost her job at the Chipotle restaurant in St Paul, Minnesota on Friday after a 21-year-old customer accused her of racial stereotyping.

She exclusively told DailyMail.com: ‘I’m not sure if I’m going to take the [job] offer yet. I feel grateful but at the same time I still have questions. I feel like I’ve really been put on blast, so to speak. The circumstances were not how it looked. It looked like a very hateful thing and it was not that way.’
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: FunkyZero on November 21, 2018, 05:34:03 AM
St. Paul Chipotle manager says she was standing up for her employees
http://www.startribune.com/chipotle-offers-job-back-to-fired-st-paul-manager/500859691/

Dominique Moran should of never been fired in the first place.

‘I’m NOT a racist': Chipotle manager, who was fired after asking a serial dine-and-dasher to pay before ordering, breaks her silence and reveals she HASN'T decided whether to take her job back
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6407551/Chipotle-manager-fired-called-racist-offered-job-back.html

Well, you can try all day to explain the long term ramifications of promoting social justice, but this is not a valid consideration for the left. The ONLY point is that a minority must prevail by the majority being destroyed. It doesn't matter if it is justifiable or not, only that the minority prevail, and the evil white people are humiliated. Beyond the original headline, nothing else really matters. These people are swoop-n-poop propaganda artists. All things revolve around a political motivation... with the ultimate goal being power over others.
I understand (and actually agree) with the root premise that a majority should never have "power" over the minority... after all, we do live in a society that is supposed to value individual sovereignty above all. But these asshats are lost on that premise. They have discarded the idea of individual sovereignty, and even allowed themselves to openly display what they consider justified racism with the goal now being "destroy the majority". And they seek it at any cost.
It really does take lazy thinking, or outright mental deficiency to buy into this crap. And now, this problem is a runaway train. All one needs is to accuse a white person, and they win. So hell yea, there's plenty of motivation, and it'll continue to get worse.
I also believe this is just temporary insanity because at it's root, this push is politically motivated. If ever at a point where the left dominate society, they will no longer have a need to these operation... it is the quest for power that will make them abandon the minority because at that point, destroying the majority will me they become the target. Everything these people do is disingenuous and deceptive... and they leverage the lazy thinkers to accomplish those goals... ie: "progressive voters"
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 21, 2018, 06:54:07 PM
Well, you can try all day to explain the long term ramifications of promoting social justice, but this is not a valid consideration for the left. The ONLY point is that a minority must prevail by the majority being destroyed. It doesn't matter if it is justifiable or not, only that the minority prevail, and the evil white people are humiliated. Beyond the original headline, nothing else really matters. These people are swoop-n-poop propaganda artists. All things revolve around a political motivation... with the ultimate goal being power over others.
I understand (and actually agree) with the root premise that a majority should never have "power" over the minority... after all, we do live in a society that is supposed to value individual sovereignty above all. But these asshats are lost on that premise. They have discarded the idea of individual sovereignty, and even allowed themselves to openly display what they consider justified racism with the goal now being "destroy the majority". And they seek it at any cost.
It really does take lazy thinking, or outright mental deficiency to buy into this crap. And now, this problem is a runaway train. All one needs is to accuse a white person, and they win. So hell yea, there's plenty of motivation, and it'll continue to get worse.
I also believe this is just temporary insanity because at it's root, this push is politically motivated. If ever at a point where the left dominate society, they will no longer have a need to these operation... it is the quest for power that will make them abandon the minority because at that point, destroying the majority will me they become the target. Everything these people do is disingenuous and deceptive... and they leverage the lazy thinkers to accomplish those goals... ie: "progressive voters"

I saw the video in question.
https://twitter.com/Masudaliii/status/1063308017133854725

It looks like a setup to me.
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: Eupher on November 23, 2018, 07:15:04 AM
Well, to Ptarmy's point -- Who walks into a cafeteria line and takes video of the transactions/interactions that occur?

Have some people (generally younger than I am, but that's probably my distrust for millennials rearing its ugly head again) become so morally bankrupt that they record everything they do just in case something MIGHT happen?

George nails it, even before the millennials started taking over the planet:  Warning - language NSFW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNSXfigQA5k
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: Old n Grumpy on November 23, 2018, 03:52:47 PM
She needs to hire the creepy porn lawyer to sue the crap out of them, then take some of the $$ and have someone beat the taco's out of ali!! :-) :-)
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: FunkyZero on November 23, 2018, 04:56:03 PM
Well, you can try all day to explain the long term ramifications of promoting social justice, but this is not a valid consideration for the left. The ONLY point is that a minority must prevail by the majority being destroyed. It doesn't matter if it is justifiable or not, only that the minority prevail, and the evil white people are humiliated. Beyond the original headline, nothing else really matters. These people are swoop-n-poop propaganda artists. All things revolve around a political motivation... with the ultimate goal being power over others.
I understand (and actually agree) with the root premise that a majority should never have "power" over the minority... after all, we do live in a society that is supposed to value individual sovereignty above all. But these asshats are lost on that premise. They have discarded the idea of individual sovereignty, and even allowed themselves to openly display what they consider justified racism with the goal now being "destroy the majority". And they seek it at any cost.
It really does take lazy thinking, or outright mental deficiency to buy into this crap. And now, this problem is a runaway train. All one needs is to accuse a white person, and they win. So hell yea, there's plenty of motivation, and it'll continue to get worse.
I also believe this is just temporary insanity because at it's root, this push is politically motivated. If ever at a point where the left dominate society, they will no longer have a need to these operation... it is the quest for power that will make them abandon the minority because at that point, destroying the majority will me they become the target. Everything these people do is disingenuous and deceptive... and they leverage the lazy thinkers to accomplish those goals... ie: "progressive voters"

damn I must have been half asleep when I hammered that out. I swear, some days I think I'm starting to develop dyslexia or something.
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: Ptarmigan on June 11, 2019, 10:29:33 PM
Woman says internet mob falsely painted her as racist
https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/05/25/woman-says-internet-mob-falsely-painted-her-as-racist/

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ST. PAUL, Minn. — Dominique Moran knew something was wrong as soon as she awakened that Friday morning. She turned on her smartphone and saw the first of what would become a barrage of texts and voicemails.

“Are you okay?”

“I just wanted you to know there’s a video of you going around with you and this person…”

“Hey, you’re on Twitter.”

Dominique Moran speaks out.
Title: Re: Chipotle rethinking firing manager who refused to serve black customers over ‘di
Post by: J P Sousa on June 12, 2019, 06:01:47 PM
Some people thought when Obama was elected he would smooth things over between the races, BUT he did the opposite.

Obama sparked a new race war and a war against the police.

Obama, the racist President.