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OPINION ON MANCHIN NEEDED ...
« on: May 01, 2021, 09:10:58 AM »
Hi guys ...

What do you think of Breitbart's headline this morning re "Democrat Joe Manchin Crushes Democrat Dreams of Federal Election Takeover: ‘I’m Not Going to Be Part Of It"

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/30/democrat-joe-manchin-crushes-democrat-dreams-of-federal-election-takeover-im-not-going-to-be-part-of-it/#disqus_thread

I know very little about him, and need to see what you think.  I would dearly love to believe it, but am not sure whether or not I can.

Thanks ~ ABC
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Re: OPINION ON MANCHIN NEEDED ...
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2021, 09:24:08 AM »
I don't think he's "on our side." I think he recognizes the tenuous position of his side and is trying to keep them from destroying themselves and taking him with their dumb asses.

He is to be supported, ala Milton Friedman:

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Re: OPINION ON MANCHIN NEEDED ...
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2021, 10:21:01 AM »
Manchin is a career politician. He's been in the Senate since 2010, but he was governor and SecState of WV before that.

While he somewhat has a reputation of being a "moderate Democrat" leaning often toward conservatism, he's riding on the coattails of Robert Byrd and the "Democrat" moniker that goes with that.

Manchin understands his reputation and is not afraid to put his stuff out there. Why? To stay in front of the cameras, of course. At the heart of everything, Manchin is a career politician.

And while Manchin may enjoy the "lone wolf" Democrat/Blue Dog-type reputation, we must always remember for every Manchin, the Republicans have a Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and Ben Sasse. So maybe Manchin's statement isn't quite the blockbuster that he'd like us to think it is.
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Re: OPINION ON MANCHIN NEEDED ...
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2021, 10:42:00 AM »
OTOH, I would take someone like Manchin in a heartbeat for Illinois. Hell, he's more conservative than most republicans in Illinois.

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Re: OPINION ON MANCHIN NEEDED ...
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2021, 08:28:17 PM »
Until Manchin actually votes on something, one way or the other, I can't speculate on specifics.

He's untrustworthy in the way a sports-coach is untrustworthy, airing strategies into a microphone.

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Re: OPINION ON MANCHIN NEEDED ...
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2021, 10:36:39 AM »
Manchin is an old-school Democrat politician trying to stay relevant in a Democratic Party that has flown far off into Leftfield, with the shots being called by radicals who have taken over the party. The fact that he remains in the party as it has morphed toward communism tells me all I need to know about the man. If he had any principles, he would have left the Democratic Party by now.
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Re: OPINION ON MANCHIN NEEDED ...
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2021, 11:52:39 AM »
Manchin is an old-school Democrat politician trying to stay relevant in a Democratic Party that has flown far off into Leftfield, with the shots being called by radicals who have taken over the party. The fact that he remains in the party as it has morphed toward communism tells me all I need to know about the man. If he had any principles, he would have left the Democratic Party by now.

From what I've read, Manchin's been enticed, invited, and cajoled over to the Republican party by some of his colleagues in the Senate, if not the RNC.

Manchin's Wiki article says that he has said he'd remain a Dem as long as he's in the Senate. If that's true, that kinda tells you he'd rather stay in front of the cameras being the proverbial swing voter rather than actually join the caucus he votes with most of the time.

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Re: OPINION ON MANCHIN NEEDED ...
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 10:49:46 AM »
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