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SIT BACK, RELAX & AND ANSWER THIS QUESTION ...
« on: March 19, 2021, 09:05:36 PM »
For now at least,  try to forget about, thanks to Joe Dementia, how our enemies & the rest of the world is gleefully laughing at the USA ...

And think about this question from today's "Friday Mail" on "The Five." 

OK, here it is ...

If you could change the *ending* to any movie , which one would it be?
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2021, 09:45:12 PM »
Rats! Forgot to say ...

Have a good weekend guys!!!

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2021, 09:59:22 PM »
Sucker Punch

https://youtu.be/hafjS7WSzes

I get that the intention was to create ambiguity and allow the ending to be a Rorschach test of sorts of the viewer, but even the deepest delusion abuts an inviolable reality - and Snyder is too good of a creator to deny this fact.
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2021, 10:25:07 PM »
When I think of "sad" endings, I think of deathbed scenes, such as that of Douglas MacArthur in 1964, so well described by William Manchester and others that it brings a weighty despondency and melancholy which lingers for hours.....at least for me.

But as death is inevitable and happens to everyone, I can't think of how I would change that.

However, I would change the ending of Lawrence of Arabia to that of millions of grateful Arabs hoisting him on a throne, making him king of all the lands from Persia to Lebanon, from Turkey down to the bottom of Saudi Arabia, and from Egypt west to Morocco.  As liberator of the Arabs, they should've done no less for him.

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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2021, 02:21:36 AM »
Justice League (2017)....oh wait....they just did that.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2021, 10:16:21 AM »
No Country for Old Men

The Coen brothers just left this one hangin'. Javier Bardem played a most chilling psychopath and, based on my recollection of the ending, got away with all the murders he did.

Call me simplistic, but I think that Bardem's character needed to die.
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2021, 02:22:51 PM »
No Country for Old Men

The Coen brothers just left this one hangin'. Javier Bardem played a most chilling psychopath and, based on my recollection of the ending, got away with all the murders he did.

Call me simplistic, but I think that Bardem's character needed to die.

He kinda got away.

The movie is meant to be morally nihilistic. At one point, Chigurh asks Carson (Woody Harrelson's character), "If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

https://youtu.be/_-d1S79zt8c

(at the 2:00 mark)

Chigurh has rules, such as adhering to the results of his coin tosses - which is rule-less chance - but at the end of the film he's seriously injured by pure happenstance after someone else breaks the rule of the traffic light; and through this there is no rule of the happy ending because the faithful family man is dead, his wife murdered, and the killer gets away in all violation of morality.

It's meant to see-saw back and forth between chance, and structure and leave you questioning morality in a broken world.

It's almost biblical.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2021, 03:26:59 PM »
He kinda got away.

The movie is meant to be morally nihilistic. At one point, Chigurh asks Carson (Woody Harrelson's character), "If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

https://youtu.be/_-d1S79zt8c

(at the 2:00 mark)

Chigurh has rules, such as adhering to the results of his coin tosses - which is rule-less chance - but at the end of the film he's seriously injured by pure happenstance after someone else breaks the rule of the traffic light; and through this there is no rule of the happy ending because the faithful family man is dead, his wife murdered, and the killer gets away in all violation of morality.

It's meant to see-saw back and forth between chance, and structure and leave you questioning morality in a broken world.

It's almost biblical.

Yeah, I read the thematic review and "why did they do that?" analysis. The question was, "if you could change the ending to any movie, what would it be?" My answer was, admittedly simplistic, Bardem's character had to die. Using the thematic question as a basis, if Bardem's actions/rules brought him to getting gunned down by Tommy Lee Jones' character (or Josh Brolin's character for that matter), of what use were Bardem's rules?

I get the nihilistic angle, but the ending still left a bad taste in my mouth.
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2021, 07:08:10 PM »
The most upsetting & horrific  movie I have ever  seen in my life, to this day even ...

Was "A Clockwork Orange" Complete mindless violence in every single scene.

Problem is, I can't remember exactly how it *ended*, in order to change it.

However it ended, the punishment meted out was surely not enough for me.  :-)
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2021, 08:27:56 PM »
The most upsetting & horrific  movie I have ever  seen in my life, to this day even ...

Was "A Clockwork Orange" Complete mindless violence in every single scene.

Problem is, I can't remember exactly how it *ended*, in order to change it.

However it ended, the punishment meted out was surely not enough for me.  :-)

A tale for our times.

The government took a depraved sociopath and chemically neutered him but the "rehabilitation" was worse than what he deserved.

Yet, as soon as they undid their horrific therapy, the protagonist immediately returned to his depraved life.

That leaves the question: What then do we do about human evil?
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2021, 08:39:25 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2021, 08:44:37 PM »
John Wayne, The Searchers.

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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2021, 08:47:09 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2021, 08:54:42 PM »

That leaves the question: What then do we do about human evil?

What we've BEEN doing is electing human evil to Congress. And to the presidency. That's gotta change, but somehow I don't think it's going to. Thomas Sowell discusses that point very well, and he ain't blowin' smoke up our asses.

But anyway, back to the movies.....
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2021, 09:05:22 PM »
Elucidate?

Have you seen the movie?
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2021, 12:08:53 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2021, 11:02:29 AM »
What we've BEEN doing is electing human evil to Congress. And to the presidency. That's gotta change, but somehow I don't think it's going to. Thomas Sowell discusses that point very well, and he ain't blowin' smoke up our asses.

Couldn't agree with you more!  :clap:  :clap:

But sadly, I don't think it's going to change either.  Not in my lifetime at least.  :-( 
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2021, 08:25:40 AM »
The most upsetting & horrific  movie I have ever  seen in my life, to this day even ...

Was "A Clockwork Orange" Complete mindless violence in every single scene.

Problem is, I can't remember exactly how it *ended*, in order to change it.

However it ended, the punishment meted out was surely not enough for me.  :-)

I finally watched that, and yes, it is upsetting and horrific, as part of the point of the story.  According to sources, the novel has a slightly different ending than the movie (shock) that might bring better closure.  Haven't gotten it read to confirm or to confirm that it's better.

On topic, the Michael Keaton Batman movie.  Killing the Joker just doesn't work for me, especially when he's Jack Nicholson. 
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