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Title: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: dutch508 on April 26, 2021, 03:46:51 PM
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Star Member uponit7771 (76,385 posts)
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Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel backing away from cops who were shooting at him.

Women describing the execution of another black man on MSNBC right now ... says the officers were still shooting at him even before the video started

Police will feel this execution is justified ... one of the lawyers associated with the city says he " ... will not be ****ing bullied ..."

9 body cams, family of black man executed only shown one video

 :whatever:

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Star Member Hoyt (48,554 posts)

1. Sounds to me police know they have a loser, another Chauvin.

Another felony warrant...
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: enslaved1 on April 26, 2021, 04:04:21 PM
Quick scan for info since the DUmp includes no links, felony warrant for selling coke and meth amphetamines, higher end stuff than a dime bag of weed, warrant served by a tactical squad, indication that they were expecting trouble, perp fleeing, could be running (or driving, having trouble getting a bead on that one) to a weapon, to take hostages, who knows what.   One dead perp (selling to an informant) or possible hostage situation, high speed chase that could hurt/kill multiple uninvolved people, armed perp shooting at cops and surrounding civilians?  Not that hard a choice.  Not one I want to make, but that's why I'm not a cop.  Also why I don't run from cops, or slang dope. 
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 26, 2021, 05:01:51 PM
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Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel backing away from cops who were shooting at him.
Does this mean he had the car in reverse and moving backwards?
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 26, 2021, 06:33:37 PM
DO IT!

DO IT, YOU ****ING PUSSIES!

DEFUND THE POLICE!

DO IT!
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: SVPete on May 18, 2021, 01:53:10 PM
DA: Shooting of Andrew Brown Jr. was justified

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/05/18/da-shooting-of-andrew-brown-jr-was-justified-n390747 (https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/05/18/da-shooting-of-andrew-brown-jr-was-justified-n390747)

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I watched most of DA Womble’s announcement. His version of events, backed by stills from the bodycam video, is different than what the family attorney has claimed happened. Sheriff’s deputies had a search warrant and an arrest warrant for Andrew Brown Jr. related to cocaine distribution. When they arrived at his house he was in his BMW apparently talking on the phone. Deputies surrounded the car and ordered Brown to show his hands and exit the vehicle. Instead, Brown dropped his phone and reversed the car. In the process he made contact with one of the deputies who was standing alongside the driver’s side window.

However the DA pointed out that when Brown stopped the car because he couldn’t reverse any further, no shots had been fired. Then Brown put the car in gear and drove forward toward one of the deputies who put his hand on the hood in order to move out of the way. That’s when the first shot was fired and that shot went through the front windshield of the car.

Here the link to CNN's similar account, https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/18/us/andrew-brown-jr-press-conference/index.html . I'm sure DUpipo would appreciate an update, :-) .
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: Kc25 on May 18, 2021, 01:57:05 PM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215443016#post16

TN dem killed this thread with video of what happened.
Just dropped like a rock.
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: DLR Pyro on May 18, 2021, 03:53:00 PM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215443016#post16

TN dem killed this thread with video of what happened.
Just dropped like a rock.

.  full stop
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: Zathras on May 18, 2021, 03:58:16 PM
I'll bet the leaders of BLM are pissed. They just lost another source to grift money from.....err, fundraise from.
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: thundley4 on May 18, 2021, 04:01:53 PM
I'll bet the leaders of BLM are pissed. They just lost another source to grift money from.....err, fundraise from.

They don't need a reason to Burn, Loot and Murder.
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: Kc25 on May 18, 2021, 06:31:28 PM
.  full stop

Well ...after taking a bit to regroup; they decided that the new DUmmie (low post count) must just be a mole and therefore dismiss the video he posted.

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gldstwmn (2,237 posts)

22. I meant the whole video

not thirty seconds.
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Tndem615 (62 posts)

23. Well

You saw Mr. Brown attempt to get away from the police, then get killed. That’s pretty much it. I dunno if the police pre raid safety briefing was filmed, or the coroner making the location later was either.
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Star Member StarfishSaver (15,354 posts)

27. "Trying to get away from the police" is not a valid reason for being shot

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Star Member gldstwmn (2,237 posts)

28. Thank you.

It was a small town drug raid based on hearsay with an execution at the end. I'm not sure any of that was justified.
Those cops looked like some sort of old school hanging posse.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #27)Tue May 18, 2021, 05:55 PM
Tndem615 (62 posts)

29. What

If that involves running over a police officer?
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Star Member uponit7771 (77,046 posts)

33. avoiding hitting a LEO isn't "running over a police officer" none of that bullshit passed the smell

... test from the still that was shown.  Well... The "still" may not have shown it; but the videos from all the different angle sure did

This should go to a jury, let them decide the intent not the DA
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Tndem615 (62 posts)

38. Use of deadly force

Be it a car or a gun is still deadly force.

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Star Member mcar (36,073 posts)

48. Show me where any cop in that short clip

was in danger of being run over?

They shot a barrage of bullets into a fleeing vehicle. They were not in danger.
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How about the cop that has to put his hand on the hood and spin out of the way... just as one example.


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Star Member uponit7771 (77,046 posts)

32. +1, the fact that people STILL would post that is gob smacking !! Its against the law to shoot...

... people in the back of anything.
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Response to Tndem615 (Reply #23)Tue May 18, 2021, 06:03 PM
Star Member uponit7771 (77,046 posts)

34. "That's pretty much it." ... this is false on its face

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Response to Tndem615 (Reply #23)Tue May 18, 2021, 06:42 PM
LanternWaste (37,078 posts)

42. Moving goalposts does little for your argument.

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 I have figured it out I think...

The DUmmies are just narrative blind... They ignore anything, video, academic studies, witness testimony, etc... That goes against, or disputes their narrative. It's a mental illness/defense mechanism that protects their worldview and stupidity.

Also, I figure TNdem will be getting a tombstone... how dare that DUmmie post video evidence of the cops nearly being ran over, and disproving their bs story.





Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: DLR Pyro on May 18, 2021, 06:36:41 PM
Well ...after taking a bit to regroup; they decided that the new DUmmie (low post count) must just be a mole and therefore dismiss the video he posted.





How about the cop that has to put his hand on the hood and spin out of the way... just as one example.



 I have figured it out I think...

The DUmmies are just narrative blind... They ignore anything, video, academic studies, witness testimony, etc... That goes against, or disputes their narrative. It's a mental illness/defense mechanism that protects their worldview and stupidity.

Also, I figure TNdem will be getting a tombstone... how dare that DUmmie post video evidence of the cops nearly being ran over, and disproving their bs story.

https://youtu.be/W8qcccZy03s (https://youtu.be/W8qcccZy03s)
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: Delmar on May 18, 2021, 08:29:01 PM
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Response to Tndem615 (Reply #23)Tue May 18, 2021, 05:30 PM
Star Member StarfishSaver (15,355 posts)
27. "Trying to get away from the police" is not a valid reason for being shot
StarfishSaver tries to sound outraged about police shooting criminals but she lives for this stuff.  She's as happy as a pig in shit.

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Response to EarlG (Reply #4)Tue May 18, 2021, 12:29 PM
Star Member StarfishSaver (15,355 posts)
6. He claims that if he doesn't stop and submit to arrest, the car becomes a deadly weapon

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Bullshit.

It is illegal to kill a fleeing suspect. Claiming they are fleeing in a car and that makes it a deadly weapon is ridiculous.

This is one of the reasons that, while Happy with the George Floyd verdict, many of us tempered our joy because we knew it was an aberration. What we saw today is the overwhelming norm.
She had to temper her joy because she didn't know how long she'd have to wait until she got her next fix.
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: enslaved1 on May 19, 2021, 12:15:40 PM
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Response to Tndem615 (Reply #23)Tue May 18, 2021, 05:30 PM
Star Member StarfishSaver (15,355 posts)
27. "Trying to get away from the police" is not a valid reason for being shot

Yes it is.  The cops don't know if the perp is running to get a weapon, take hostages, if they are in a vehicle, go run over people or cause accidents.  Better to have one poor decision maker on you conscience than one or multiple uninvolved people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, wouldn't one agree? 

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Star Member StarfishSaver (15,355 posts)
6. He claims that if he doesn't stop and submit to arrest, the car becomes a deadly weapon

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It is illegal to kill a fleeing suspect. Claiming they are fleeing in a car and that makes it a deadly weapon is ridiculous.

Please quote the law, statute, policy, and the jurisdiction thereof.
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: ADsOutburst on May 19, 2021, 12:33:54 PM
Now some are claiming that the police are cherry-picking what video is shown.  :thatsright:  :mental:
Title: Re: Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel
Post by: Old n Grumpy on May 19, 2021, 12:45:51 PM
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Star Member uponit7771 (76,385 posts)
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Andrew Brown shot by police while both hands on steering wheel and his foot on the gas backing runningaway from cops
:loser: :loser: