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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2013, 07:13:46 PM »
I had this crazy idea that it was the 10 million voters who voted for Romney in the GOP primaries that made him the nominee

Every time a Conservative would give Romney competition, they (Romney/RNC campaign) would assassinate his character--like the Dems do.

By the time that the primaries got to my state, for all practical purposes, the choice had already been made.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #76 on: February 10, 2013, 07:51:43 PM »
Every time a Conservative would give Romney competition, they (Romney/RNC campaign) would assassinate his character--like the Dems do.

By the time that the primaries got to my state, for all practical purposes, the choice had already been made.

So your theory is that they couldnt stand up to Romney's "dirty tricks" but they would have easily defeated the democrats dirty tricks
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #77 on: February 10, 2013, 07:59:15 PM »
So your theory is that they couldnt stand up to Romney's "dirty tricks" but they would have easily defeated the democrats dirty tricks

No Romney's dirty tricks were just like the Dem that he is.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #78 on: February 10, 2013, 08:02:26 PM »
No Romney's dirty tricks were just like the Dem that he is.

But what makes you think that a "conservative" who cant beat Romney's dirty tricks could somehow beat Obama's dirty tricks?
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #79 on: February 10, 2013, 08:10:11 PM »
But what makes you think that a "conservative" who cant beat Romney's dirty tricks could somehow beat Obama's dirty tricks?

It helped Romney that the RNC had already picked him.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #80 on: February 10, 2013, 08:13:26 PM »
The deflection toward Romney almost worked.

The RNC has declared war on the Tea Party Conservatives. They have declared war on me and people who share my views. Again, tell me why I should support the RNC and their chosen Dem-lite RINO candidates.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2013, 08:34:55 PM »
The RNC has declared war on the Tea Party Conservatives. They have declared war on me and people who share my views. Again, tell me why I should support the RNC and their chosen Dem-lite RINO candidates.

The Tea Party has declared war on anyone who they dont think is conservative enough. The have declared war on republicans  and people vote republican. Again tell me why I should support their candidates who cant stop talking about rape.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2013, 08:35:57 PM »
It helped Romney that the RNC had already picked him.

yup that magical RNC who forced 10 million people to vote for Romney and send all their money to him as well
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #83 on: February 10, 2013, 09:06:25 PM »
yup that magical RNC who forced 10 million people to vote for Romney and send all their money to him as well

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2013, 12:38:41 AM »
So your theory is that they couldnt stand up to Romney's "dirty tricks" but they would have easily defeated the democrats dirty tricks

The combination of Romney and the MSM...too much for anyone.  And of course the Dems were more than happy to play along.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #85 on: February 11, 2013, 12:39:25 AM »
yup that magical RNC who forced 10 million people to vote for Romney and send all their money to him as well

Obtuse much?
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #86 on: February 11, 2013, 12:40:02 AM »
The Tea Party has declared war on anyone who they dont think is conservative enough. The have declared war on republicans  and people vote republican. Again tell me why I should support their candidates who cant stop talking about rape.

Thanks for reminding me why I think youre a jackass.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #87 on: February 11, 2013, 02:09:24 AM »
The Tea Party has declared war on anyone who they dont think is conservative enough. The have declared war on republicans  and people vote republican. Again tell me why I should support their candidates who cant stop talking about rape.
Hi,

Having attended several tea party rallies I can say this to you.  You have no clue what the tea party is all about.  You are brainwashed by the media. 

The other night I was at a dinner and a bright young woman tore into the tea party and what they stood for.  I listened then politely corrected her by saying that TEA stood for "Taxed Enough Already".  Our message was simple, stop the spending, stop the incessant taxes, and get back to what the constitution stands for.    We are against big government and all that believe in that.

When I finsished, she was dumbfounded and said, "Well I believe in those things too."  I then followed up by suggesting that it was both democrats and republicans, coupled with the complicit media, that made the term tea party the most negative term in politics.  We are a threat to all of them.

Does the Tea Party have some candidates that say stupid things?  Of course, and they deserve to lose when they do.  Then again let's look at Pelosi, Waters and Biden for stupid stuff.  Why don't they get villified by the media when they say stupid stuff all the time?

If one candidate says something stupid, you ask why you should vote for them.....you probably shouldn't.  I do draw one major distinction.  While you may not agree with his position, nor do I, at least he was honest.  Seems to me that the RINO's and libs both lie to get nominated and elected, then govern as they wish.

As long as you are going to let the media shape your views, you will continue to sound like the "low information voter" which is the typical liberal lemming.  Perhaps that is why you don't fare well on this forum, most here are inclined to see through the BS and look at the facts.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #88 on: February 11, 2013, 04:38:51 AM »
I had this crazy idea that it was the 10 million voters who voted for Romney in the GOP primaries that made him the nominee

It's like whistling in a graveyard.


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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2013, 04:45:28 AM »
Just so we are clear here - THEY is you.   THEY are the folks who join their city/town Republican committees, get elected as state delegates, then get elected as state party delegates for the National convention, then represent their Republican constituents in developing a national platform, and then supporting candidates (the state delegates develop state platform, and decided which state candidates they will support).

So in short THEY is your neighbor.   THEY is probably someone you know if you ever leave your house and are actually involved in politics locally.   THEY could very easily be you, and others like  you who believe in strong conservative values.

But of course to become THEY you have to work, and in some states work VERY hard to obtain those seats.    :bawl: on internet boards with tough guy personas is much easier.  


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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #90 on: February 11, 2013, 04:47:11 AM »
ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL.    Republicans will keep losing, and nothing will ever change, until they understand what that means.


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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #91 on: February 11, 2013, 06:03:51 AM »
ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL.

No. The game has changed. The RNC, DNC, their deep-pocket proxies, and the media are not local, and they control the process.

Preezy O'Choom and Me-Too Romney are perfect examples of the new political process, where national political machines promote a candidate, pour truckloads of money into markets, and control the process from above. The RNC's new reality show, "Karl Rove's Conservative Defeat Project" is a good example.

Electability is the new mantra. The Democrats promoted a mixed race multi-culti of dubious sexual orientation, with absolutely no executive experience; while the Republicans promoted a professional candidate with a history of opposing the current Republican platform and no current achievement to claim as his own, who agreed with the Democrat on so many things that I wondered if they had a bromance going on out on the campaign trail.

Two shit sandwiches with a dab of grape jelly on yours, formerlurker. You may choose to eat that sandwich, but you are going to have a hard time selling your shit sandwich to us out here in the wilderness- as the last election proved.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #92 on: February 11, 2013, 06:05:41 AM »
As long as we keep putting up with me too RINO candidates like Romney, and don't get down in the trenches and fight for conservative principals, we will continue to lose Presidential races. That is one of the main reasons he lost. Just to be clear, no national recognized Yankee politician like fat boy will EVER be the type of conservative that will excite the base in fly over country. Romney got stomped in the northeast and it will happen again with Christie.

People like Rove, Krawhammer, Willls, Coulter think they can make a pig out of a poke. It ain't never going to happen. If these dumb ass's think it will, we will have four more years of the same after Obama leaves office.  

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #93 on: February 11, 2013, 06:06:02 AM »
No. The game has changed. The RNC, DNC, their deep-pocket proxies, and the media are not local, and they control the process.

Preezy O'Choom and Me-Too Romney are perfect examples of the new political process, where national political machines promote a candidate, pour truckloads of money into markets, and control the process from above. The RNC's new reality show, "Karl Rove's Conservative Defeat Project"

Electability is the new mantra. The Democrats promoted a mixed race multi-culti of dubious sexual orientation, with absolutely no executive experience; while the Republicans promoted a professional candidate with a history of opposing the current Republican platform and no current achievement to claim as his own, who agreed with the Democrat on so many things that I wondered if they had a bromance going on out on the campaign trail.

Two shit sandwiches with a dab of grape jelly on yours, formerlurker. You may choose to eat that sandwich, but you are going to have a hard time selling your shit sandwich to us out here in the wilderness- as the last election proved.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #94 on: February 11, 2013, 06:06:55 AM »
As long as we keep putting up with me too RINO candidates like Romney, and don't get down in the trenches and fight for conservative principals, we will continue to lose Presidential races. That is one of the main reasons he lost. Just to be clear, no national recognized Yankee politician like fat boy will EVER be the type of conservative that will excite the base in fly over country. Romney got stomped in the northeast and it will happen again with Christie.

People like Rove, Krawhammer, Willls, Coulter think they can make a pig out of a poke. It ain't never going to happen. If these dumb ass's think it will, we will have four more years of the same after Obama leaves office.  

Political Consultants are like Radio consultants...the only thing they're good for is ****ing up a winning operation.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #95 on: February 11, 2013, 06:10:04 AM »
No. The game has changed. The RNC, DNC, their deep-pocket proxies, and the media are not local, and they control the process.

NO.  The delegates are the ones who VOTE at the local and national level for these candidates.   They are NOT bought off by those with deep-pockets (and if they are then I am missing a freaking payment  :censored:).

THEY control the process.   THEY control who gets the nomination.   THEY control the platform.

THEY = YOU.  

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2013, 06:12:35 AM »
Two shit sandwiches with a dab of grape jelly on yours, formerlurker. You may choose to eat that sandwich, but you are going to have a hard time selling your shit sandwich to us out here in the wilderness- as the last election proved.

Obamaphone, quality sandwich?  do you see the difference here people cause I sure the hell don't.

You want others to come sell you something.  Got it. 

 :bawl: in another socialist president. 


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« Reply #97 on: February 11, 2013, 06:16:58 AM »
You know the loony Libertarians raided the national delegate voting process, cause they understand that all politics are local.   

Their game plan was slightly off this time around, but they will adjust and have a better plan in place for 2016.   Why? because they understand that all politics are local, and they further understand that folks are lard-ass lazy for the most part and usually don't participate in government (be that party committee meetings, votes, or even their own town meetings etc.).   

Folks sure like to talk a big game, but when it comes to actually doing something?   it's all excuses.   

RC claim there is a problem, but  :bawl: about the problem is all they got, change makers that they are...

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #98 on: February 11, 2013, 06:33:24 AM »
No. The game has changed. The RNC, DNC, their deep-pocket proxies, and the media are not local, and they control the process.

Preezy O'Choom and Me-Too Romney are perfect examples of the new political process, where national political machines promote a candidate, pour truckloads of money into markets, and control the process from above. The RNC's new reality show, "Karl Rove's Conservative Defeat Project" is a good example.

Electability is the new mantra. The Democrats promoted a mixed race multi-culti of dubious sexual orientation, with absolutely no executive experience; while the Republicans promoted a professional candidate with a history of opposing the current Republican platform and no current achievement to claim as his own, who agreed with the Democrat on so many things that I wondered if they had a bromance going on out on the campaign trail.

Two shit sandwiches with a dab of grape jelly on yours, formerlurker. You may choose to eat that sandwich, but you are going to have a hard time selling your shit sandwich to us out here in the wilderness- as the last election proved.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2013, 06:39:15 AM »
Obamaphone, quality sandwich?  do you see the difference here people cause I sure the hell don't.

You want others to come sell you something.  Got it. 

 :bawl: in another socialist president. 





That is not what we want. We have stated what that is and you went out of your way to ignore it.

Were you born an asshole or have you been working on it your whole life?
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