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Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« on: February 03, 2013, 04:51:18 AM »
NY TIMES – The biggest donors in the Republican Party are financing a new group to recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts who Republican leaders worry could complicate the party’s efforts to win control of the Senate.

The group, the Conservative Victory Project, is intended to counter other organizations that have helped defeat establishment Republican candidates over the last two election cycles. It is the most robust attempt yet by Republicans to impose a new sense of discipline on the party, particularly in primary races.

“There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” said Steven J. Law, the president of American Crossroads, the “super PAC” creating the new project. “We don’t view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business, but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win.”

The effort would put a new twist on the Republican-vs.-Republican warfare that has consumed the party’s primary races in recent years. In effect, the establishment is taking steps to fight back against Tea Party groups and other conservative organizations that have wielded significant influence in backing candidates who ultimately lost seats to Democrats in the general election.

The first test of the group’s effort to influence primary races could come here in Iowa, where some Republicans are already worrying about who will run for the seat being vacated by Senator Tom Harkin, a Democrat. It is the first open Senate seat in Iowa since 1974, and Republicans are fearful of squandering a rare opportunity.

The Conservative Victory Project, which is backed by Karl Rove and his allies who built American Crossroads into the largest Republican super PAC of the 2012 election cycle, will start by intensely vetting prospective contenders for Congressional races to try to weed out candidates who are seen as too flawed to win general elections.

The project is being waged with last year’s Senate contests in mind, particularly the one in Missouri, where Representative Todd Akin’s comment that “legitimate rape” rarely causes pregnancy rippled through races across the country. In Indiana, the Republican candidate, Richard E. Mourdock, lost a race after he said that when a woman became pregnant during a rape it was “something God intended.”

As Republicans rebuild from losing the White House race and seats in the House and Senate last year, party leaders and strategists are placing a heightened focus on taking control of the Senate next year. Republicans must pick up six seats to win a majority.

Representative Steve King, a six-term Iowa Republican, could be among the earliest targets of the Conservative Victory Project. He said he had not decided whether he would run for the Senate, but the leaders of the project in Washington are not waiting to try to steer him away from the race.

The group’s plans, which were outlined for the first time last week in an interview with Mr. Law, call for hard-edge campaign tactics, including television advertising, against candidates whom party leaders see as unelectable and a drag on the efforts to win the Senate. Mr. Law cited Iowa as an example and said Republicans could no longer be squeamish about intervening in primary fights.

“We’re concerned about Steve King’s Todd Akin problem,” Mr. Law said. “This is an example of candidate discipline and how it would play in a general election. All of the things he’s said are going to be hung around his neck.”

Mr. King has compiled a record of incendiary statements during his time in Congress, including comparing illegal immigrants to dogs and likening Capitol Hill maintenance workers to “Stasi troops” after they were ordered to install environmentally friendly light bulbs. But he rejected the suggestion that his voting record or previous remarks would keep him from winning if he decided to run for the Senate.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2013, 05:38:17 AM »
Recruiting and grooming candidates.   Who does that?  That's right - this group does it.   Who doesn't do it?   The "real Conservatives."   But they will bitch from here to forever about it though.


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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2013, 08:50:27 AM »
They better find a good conservative candidate to run against Lindsey Graham in the next S.C. republican primary because I ain't voting for that RINO again.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2013, 09:17:06 AM »
They better find a good conservative candidate to run against Lindsey Graham in the next S.C. republican primary because I ain't voting for that RINO again.

Isn't the former Governor...Mark Sanford going for that seat?
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2013, 09:59:27 AM »
Isn't the former Governor...Mark Sanford going for that seat?

No. Going for Tim Scott's US house seat.....don't want to vote for him either....but if push comes to shove, I will one time.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2013, 10:04:01 AM »
What this is going to come down to for Conservative voters like myself...is that if Karl Rove and the establishment are supporting a candidate in a primary...then I'd better vote for the guy running against their pick.

Perfect example is them setting up against Steve King.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 04:30:59 PM »
We need a new party. No RINO's allowed.

It's a real shame when democrats in the southeast are more conservative than Republicans in the northeast.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 04:41:11 PM »
We need a new party. No RINO's allowed.

It's a real shame when democrats in the southeast are more conservative than Republicans in the northeast.

Allowing for the various exception to the rule that has pretty much always been the case.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2013, 04:53:15 PM »
What this is going to come down to for Conservative voters like myself...is that if Karl Rove and the establishment are supporting a candidate in a primary...then I'd better vote for the guy running against their pick.

Perfect example is them setting up against Steve King.

The GOP does seem to be working hard to lose the conservative vote.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2013, 05:33:02 PM »
I'm all for getting the most conservative candidate who can win: that description fit Mourdock, though.  Look what the establishment did to him.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 12:39:48 AM »
I'm all for getting the most conservative candidate who can win: that description fit Mourdock, though.  Look what the establishment did to him.

The RNC did the same thing to Bachmann. Pribus went on Mark Levin's show and lied his ass off about giving her support if the race got close.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 06:51:51 AM »
Hi,

What a bunch of idiots!  I know a lot of folks like myself who get their invitations to donate all the time.  I write on them when they decide to get back to conservative, let me know.  I make sure to send them back in their postage paid envelopes too.  The rich donors better belly up because announcing something like this is just going to reduce donations even further.

If I wanted a socialst government I would donate to democrats.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 09:04:59 AM »
Idiots. Last two elections they gave us RINOs to vote for. How'd that work out, Karl, you moron?
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2013, 10:17:49 AM »
Rove lost all credibility with his election night rant about Ohio.

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2013, 10:26:08 AM »
Rove lost all credibility with his election night rant about Ohio.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2013, 10:55:19 AM »
This is the kind of candidate the "establishment republicans" have given us; (I hate quoting huffpost but,)

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Perhaps more damaging than Angle's lack of support from many within the Nevada GOP has been the fact that many of the state's most influential Republicans have endorsed her opponent, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.


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Now I think it's proper to say, as in Angle's case, we don't necessarily agree with EVERYTHING a candidate says (and that is what the establishment always tells us) but I think Angle would have been better than Reid........obviously the establishment republicans believe a democrat is better in this case. And BTW, this has happened in other races in 2010.

So if the "money" republicans want democrat-lite then I'll stick to voting Constitution Party.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2013, 11:07:15 AM »
The Yankee establishment of Rove, Krawhammer, Coulter, Wills, etc try to masquerade as conservatives but in reality are big spenders just like Democrats. Good Tea Party candidates are the best hope of increasing Congressional numbers not some wishy washy middle of the road politician.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2013, 12:02:57 PM »
Never was a fan of Karl Rove.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2013, 12:42:31 PM »
Never was a fan of Karl Rove.

He was a good boogeyman to torture the DUmmies.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2013, 01:20:02 PM »
He was a good boogeyman to torture the DUmmies.

I'm not real thrilled with Rubio and his capitulation regarding illegal aliens but I don't see any alternative on that issue.
as to the new thorn in the side of the democrat party, Cruz is off to one hell of a start.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2013, 05:09:21 PM »
I'm starting to think we are the RINOs, not them.

RINO stands for Republican in name only, and it is clear the Republican party is not the conservative party.
So, if the party is not conservative then we are the oddballs, not the establishment.

We have been trying to take back the party since 2009, but we have been fought against just as hard by the Republicans as we have been by the Democrats.
I believe that we are without a party and our views are not welcome by those who run the GOP. The goal of the GOP is for them to get in power and they don't care what they have to do to be in power. They will adopt any position where they think they can gain votes.

I wish we could just form our own party and break away from the GOP then eventually just replace them like they did to the Whigs.





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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2013, 05:14:05 PM »
I'm starting to think we are the RINOs, not them.

RINO stands for Republican in name only, and it is clear the Republican party is not the conservative party.
So, if the party is not conservative then we are the oddballs, not the establishment.

We have been trying to take back the party since 2009, but we have been fought against just as hard by the Republicans as we have been by the Democrats.
I believe that we are without a party and our views are not welcome by those who run the GOP. The goal of the GOP is for them to get in power and they don't care what they have to do to be in power. They will adopt any position where they think they can gain votes.

I wish we could just form our own party and break away from the GOP then eventually just replace them like they did to the Whigs.







I agree.

We need a "Conservative Party". Cigar and Brandy crowd need not apply. They're as bad as Limousine Liberals. Both elitists.
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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2013, 05:16:50 PM »
I'm starting to think we are the RINOs, not them.

RINO stands for Republican in name only, and it is clear the Republican party is not the conservative party.
So, if the party is not conservative then we are the oddballs, not the establishment.

We have been trying to take back the party since 2009, but we have been fought against just as hard by the Republicans as we have been by the Democrats.
I believe that we are without a party and our views are not welcome by those who run the GOP. The goal of the GOP is for them to get in power and they don't care what they have to do to be in power. They will adopt any position where they think they can gain votes.

I wish we could just form our own party and break away from the GOP then eventually just replace them like they did to the Whigs.







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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2013, 08:40:35 PM »
Recruiting and grooming candidates.   Who does that?  That's right - this group does it.   Who doesn't do it?   The "real Conservatives."   But they will bitch from here to forever about it though.

You know, if you're still trying to make the point that conservatives and libertarians should have compromised our principles and cuddled up to the country-club GOP, an article about country-club GOP leadership nuking conservative candidates is probably not the best place to do it.

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Re: Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2013, 08:53:47 PM »
The GOP does seem to be working hard to lose the conservative vote.

In preferring principles - and standing for same - over victories for the party, conservatives have been an embarrassment to the progressive wing of the Republicans for a LONG DAMNED TIME.

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