Another Civil War in the United States?

[SmilinJack]

Another civil war in the United States would be between . . . who?

Not states, because the north/south geographical divide no longer applies.

Would the county-by-county voting map from the 2012 election mean anything?



You are on the right track.

[SmilinJack]

You're not worth the effort to put you on ignore. I'd rather type snarky responses to your dumbass statements.

As to where you ignoramuses come from -- that's a great question. Where DO you come from?

Very weak come back.  I would not even call it a come back.  heh heh

[Eupher]

There is a link above about the Russian.....I do not think the coming civil unrest will be like the War Between the States ....it will not be so formal.   Ever heard of the term...'Assymetrical Warfare' that is most likely what it will be like.   

There will be No North South struggle...it will be a struggle for survival....it will start out as rioting in the big cities...most likely food riots....then people will start forming alliances....families,neighborhoods, regions etc.  these alliances will produce war lords of a sort...so there will be a complete break down first of law and order then regional and national battles. 

You're a pompous, arrogant ass. To come parading in here and pontificate about "asymmetrical warfare" as if you had a clue. Well, maybe you do have a clue. Maybe you've got a baseball bat.

How about sticking that baseball bat up your ass and see how it fits?

****tard. 

[Eupher]

I do not think the coming violence will begin like that.  As I have already posted.....it will take a huge disaster to initiate it and then a breakdown of law and order...then it will be every man for himself...those that can form the most potent miltaristic groups will dominate.

More drivel from the shitstick.

[SmilinJack]

You're not worth the effort to put you on ignore. I'd rather type snarky responses to your dumbass statements.

As to where you ignoramuses come from -- that's a great question. Where DO you come from?

Here that clicking noise?  Thats you being put on ignore.  heh heh

[Mr Mannn]

More drivel from the shitstick.

It's obvious he has no idea what he's talking about.

[Eupher]

Here that clicking noise?  Thats you being put on ignore.  heh heh

Thank God. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't be ignored by you.

[Eupher]

It's obvious he has no idea what he's talking about.

No, he's simply got a few hours to burn so he came wading in here to pose a few dumbass questions that he thought of while picking the lint out of his belly button.

[Right and Proud]

Hi,

I think it will happen.  There was a Russian scholar after the 2008 election that predicted the breakup of the US much like happened to the Soviet Union.  He then showed the country breaking up into five parts.  His reasoning for the breakup made sense; however I disagreed with how it would turn out..

When you look at the demographics of voting by county you will notice that the vast majority of the geography votes republican; it is predominately the inner cities that are democrats.

I don't feel that it will be totally taxation that does it as much as continued erosion of individual freedom.  The most interest part is there are already secessionist movements taking place.  BO basically said no state will secede that was decided in the 1860's; however that does not make it so.

Here is my question.  If several states decided to secede and form a new union, who is going to fight to preserve the union?  The welfare class who are on the dole?

Happy New Year everyone,
5412

As an amateur, but avid, student of the Civil War, I've come across the idea that the secession question was decided by the war many, many times.  But in the United States, it's the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH that makes the laws we live by, not the Judicial or Executive branches.

And I agree: No matter what Barry says, I can't find any legislation anywhere that prevents states from seceding if they choose to.

Many legal scholars consider that one SCOTUS case dealing with it, Texas vs White (which maintained that Texas had technically never left the Union), was nullified not long after when President Grant signed an act re-admitting Texas to the Union. That set a legal conflict that has never been resolved.

I'm in NO WAY suggesting that any states secede; even my adopted "home state" of Texas.  Too many good, patriotic Americans have given their lives to keep the United States together.  But I can understand the reasoning behind the desire of some states to be somewhere else when Barry and his rabid lefty minions finally crash the Republic.

[Big Dog]

Here that clicking noise?  Thats you being put on ignore.  heh heh

Strange, from here it sounded like a Prince Albert tapping out "SOS" on your braces.

[Mr Mannn]

Thank God. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't be ignored by you.

Being ignored by a troll. That's rather cowardly. What does Smilingjack do?
1) hijacks a thread (rule breaking)
2) Has no idea what he is talking about
3) starts fights (rule breaking)
4) puts people who object to his asinine statements on ignore.

Generally trolls are braver than that.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I look forward to the dems proposing a gun ban of some sort and then having a million-plus protesters show-up armed on the steps of the capital.

That should give them a jolt.

[Eupher]

Being ignored by a troll. That's rather cowardly. What does Smilingjack do?
1) hijacks a thread (rule breaking)
2) Has no idea what he is talking about
3) starts fights (rule breaking)
4) puts people who object to his asinine statements on ignore.

Generally trolls are braver than that.

I wouldn't have a problem with hijacking a thread so much -- hell, I do it all the time! 

But I've been here awhile. This turd was just dropped out of somebody's ass an hour or so ago. Still stinking up the carpet, too.

He's trying to engage in conversation (and getting several who are quite willing to do so) without having done his homework, without trying to assimilate into conversation rather than start his own bullshit, and illustrates not a little bit of pomposity in the process.

I call that "****tard" material.

[SmilinJack]

You ARE being an asshole.

And you are being put on ignore....deal wid it chump.  heh heh

[Eupher]

And you are being put on ignore....deal wid it chump.  heh heh

Another turd and another coward. One and the same.

[SmilinJack]

Strange, from here it sounded like a Prince Albert tapping out "SOS" on your braces.

Now that was funny....i give you credit.  heh heh

[SmilinJack]

As an amateur, but avid, student of the Civil War, I've come across the idea that the secession question was decided by the war many, many times.  But in the United States, it's the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH that makes the laws we live by, not the Judicial or Executive branches.

And I agree: No matter what Barry says, I can't find any legislation anywhere that prevents states from seceding if they choose to.

Many legal scholars consider that one SCOTUS case dealing with it, Texas vs White (which maintained that Texas had technically never left the Union), was nullified not long after when President Grant signed an act re-admitting Texas to the Union. That set a legal conflict that has never been resolved.

I'm in NO WAY suggesting that any states secede; even my adopted "home state" of Texas.  Too many good, patriotic Americans have given their lives to keep the United States together.  But I can understand the reasoning behind the desire of some states to be somewhere else when Barry and his rabid lefty minions finally crash the Republic.

Something big is headed our way.....and very soon.

[Eupher]

Something big is headed our way.....and very soon.

You put diesel in the Peterbilt, didn't you.

[Ptarmigan]

I can see rioting by people who are free loading. As for a second civil war, you never know.

[Mr Mannn]

Something big is headed our way.....and very soon.

Really? I think you are pushing this a bit too much, troll.
Tell me. Which side will you be on?

[Mr Mannn]

And you are being put on ignore....deal wid it chump.  heh heh

Oohhh. I'm so devastated, NOT.

edit to add: well I'm impressed, I'm ignored by TWO members now.
Maybe if we ALL call him names he will ignore everyone!

[SmilinJack]

I can see rioting by people who are free loading. As for a second civil war, you never know.

I think it will start out as minorities rioting in the big cities....then when they head up to the burbs you will a general insurrection....followed by a break down of law and order.  There could be intervention from overseas.

I think of all of this is much more probable or at least possible than most can possibly imagine.

Those of us who went through Katrina can relate to all this much better than most. 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I think it will start out as minorities rioting in the big cities....then when they head up to the burbs you will a general insurrection....followed by a break down of law and order.  There could be intervention from overseas.

And who would do the intervening?

If the world doesn't have the balls to take on a few dozen-thousand jihadists how will they muster the strength to take on a few million irate rednecks on their home turf? Who has the strategic lift capability? Even if they tried to take over liberal enclaves like NY and LA the crime alone would make their occupation a living hell.

Obama is building a house of cards. It produces nothing and it despises the one thing that all governments require -- force of arms. And those who do hold the arms don't hold liberals in very high esteem; certainly not high enough to kill their neighbors in defense of a liberal regime.

I see a massive act of defiance coming from the right. A Rosa Parks moment. As I mentioned earlier: it would be a joy to see millions of gun owners parading around the Capital building with thei weapons slung in protest of a pending gun ban. It would be too huge for the police to enforce and as such prove that the idea would bring more grief than it was worth. That would prove just how hollow the current regime truly is.

Giving orders is fun until you realize you have no realistic capability of enforcing your will.

[Right and Proud]

There could be intervention from overseas.

I can see a movement at the UN to interfere if there's any kind of civil unrest.  Some of those far-left member countries have been salivating to help bring down the United States for decades, and a low-grade shooting war here would be just the kind of excuse they're looking for.

There's a stubborn rumor that Barry has already allowed UN troops to have training bases here.  I haven't been able to confirm the rumor, and I haven't been able to disprove it, either.  There are sources like this, but it's so easy to fake up this sort of thing on the internet: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/where-is-the-proof-that-un-soldiers-are-on-american-soil-oh-right-here_082012

Anyone know the real story on it?

[SmilinJack]

And who would do the intervening?

If the world doesn't have the balls to take on a few dozen-thousand jihadists how will they muster the strength to take on a few million irate rednecks on their home turf? Who has the strategic lift capability? Even if they tried to take over liberal enclaves like NY and LA the crime alone would make their occupation a living hell.

Obama is building a house of cards. It produces nothing and it despises the one thing that all governments require -- force of arms. And those who do hold the arms don't hold liberals in very high esteem; certainly not high enough to kill their neighbors in defense of a liberal regime.

I see a massive act of defiance coming from the right. A Rosa Parks moment. As I mentioned earlier: it would be a joy to see millions of gun owners parading around the Capital building with thei weapons slung in protest of a pending gun ban. It would be too huge for the police to enforce and as such prove that the idea would bring more grief than it was worth. That would prove just how hollow the current regime truly is.

Giving orders is fun until you realize you have no realistic capability of enforcing your will.

If this country was severely weakened in the minds of say China for example....they could very well make a strategic decision to intervene....as far as lift capability....they are spending and spending on such matters...their navy particuarly.  

Regarding crime in L.A. or N.Y.   my local national guard outfit could deal with that....it is just a matter of being willing to shoot to kill.....crime only flourishes in our big cities because the politicians dare not deal with it for fear of being accused of being a racist...our crime problem is 99 per cent due to politics...politicians ...mostly liberal and pc republicans with more concern over their personal political career than any concern over the best interests of America.