Another Civil War in the United States?

[Right and Proud]

I suspect we can all agree that the United States hasn't been this politically divided since the late 1850s.  And we all know what that division led to. 

So is another Civil War brewing in this country?

Is it inevitable?

Avoidable?

Just one possibility among many?

Can civil war be averted if some states secede, or will that just guarantee it?

My honest opinion is I don't know what can and can't happen - the actions and ideological positions of the left never make sense to me - but I don't feel very optimistic about remaining a united United States.

I could be wrong, and just worrying too much.  But I have four soldier-age sons, and I can't help worrying about it.

I'd really appreciate other views.

Thanks!
 

[SmilinJack]

Conditions will have to get much worse first.....like a major food shortage for instance...it would take something that drastic to get people out with their weapons and ready to fight.

[thundley4]

I don't think a civil war is likely, but at some point the Demonrats will run out of OPM, and the government teat will run dry.  That will lead to a decrease in population when the moochers and takers start rioting.

The Dems know that and that is why they want to disarm law abiding citizens.

[formerlurker]

No. 

[SmilinJack]

I don't think a civil war is likely, but at some point the Demonrats will run out of OPM, and the government teat will run dry.  That will lead to a decrease in population when the moochers and takers start rioting.

The Dems know that and that is why they want to disarm law abiding citizens.

It would be interesting if someone conducted a poll of democrats and see exactly how many of them want gun control versus how many republicans want gun control

I have no stats to back this up but i kinda suspect that it is the democratic leadership that is pushing the gun control issue and not the people.....just my opinion.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Extremely unlikely...roughly as unlikely as Obama's policies actually coming through on the free Skittles-shitting unicorns for everyone, actually.

[SmilinJack]

Extremely unlikely...roughly as unlikely as Obama's policies actually coming through on the free Skittles-shitting unicorns for everyone, actually.

We live in interesting times.....things are changing very quickly.....it would be nothing short of arrogancy to contemplate the possibility of civil unrest in the next few years......any sort of huge disaster man made or otherwise could push the nation into armed conflict.  Do not think for one moment just because this is America that it could not happen.

[SmilinJack]

I meant to say to fail to contemplate the possibility of social unrest.

[ColonelCarrots]

I would never want to see this country plunge into another civil war. Even if we disagree politically. It was a tragedy the first time and it could only get worse the second time.

[SmilinJack]

I would never want to see this country plunge into another civil war. Even if we disagree politically. It was a tragedy the first time and it could only get worse the second time.

Most know very little about the War Between The States....if it hapens again it will be completely davastating.  Some very intelligenct people have suggested the possibility...it is something that deserves serious thought for sure.

[SmilinJack]

Russian Scholar Says America Will Break Apart............http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457550,00.html

[SmilinJack]

The more appropriate name for that conflict is....The War Between The States


http://www.ncwbts150.com/CivilWarorWarBetweentheStates.php

[Eupher]

Most know very little about the War Between The States....if it hapens again it will be completely davastating.  Some very intelligenct people have suggested the possibility...it is something that deserves serious thought for sure.

You are starting to bore the **** out of me.

[Big Dog]

We live in interesting times.....things are changing very quickly.....it would be nothing short of arrogancy to contemplate the possibility of civil unrest in the next few years......any sort of huge disaster man made or otherwise could push the nation into armed conflict.  Do not think for one moment just because this is America that it could not happen.

Arrogancy? Is that different from arrogance?

[SmilinJack]

Arrogancy? Is that different from arrogance?

Check with the School Marm or the grammar cop.  heh heh

[5412]

Hi,

I think it will happen.  There was a Russian scholar after the 2008 election that predicted the breakup of the US much like happened to the Soviet Union.  He then showed the country breaking up into five parts.  His reasoning for the breakup made sense; however I disagreed with how it would turn out..

When you look at the demographics of voting by county you will notice that the vast majority of the geography votes republican; it is predominately the inner cities that are democrats.

I don't feel that it will be totally taxation that does it as much as continued erosion of individual freedom.  The most interest part is there are already secessionist movements taking place.  BO basically said no state will secede that was decided in the 1860's; however that does not make it so.

Here is my question.  If several states decided to secede and form a new union, who is going to fight to preserve the union?  The welfare class who are on the dole?

Happy New Year everyone,
5412

[Right and Proud]

Another civil war in the United States would be between . . . who?

Not states, because the north/south geographical divide no longer applies.

Would the county-by-county voting map from the 2012 election mean anything?

[SmilinJack]

You are starting to bore the **** out of me.

Put me on ignore then.....ah duh!

Where do such ignoramouses come from?

[Mr Mannn]

There will not be a civil war. Obama doesn't have an army of people willing to die for obamaphones.
My worst case scenario is secession: Conservative states leave the union and Obama does nothing.

[Eupher]

Put me on ignore then.....ah duh!

Where do such ignoramouses come from?

You're not worth the effort to put you on ignore. I'd rather type snarky responses to your dumbass statements.

As to where you ignoramuses come from -- that's a great question. Where DO you come from?

[Mr Mannn]

Put me on ignore then.....ah duh!

Where do such ignoramouses come from?

You ARE being an asshole.

[SmilinJack]

Hi,

I think it will happen.  There was a Russian scholar after the 2008 election that predicted the breakup of the US much like happened to the Soviet Union.  He then showed the country breaking up into five parts.  His reasoning for the breakup made sense; however I disagreed with how it would turn out..

When you look at the demographics of voting by county you will notice that the vast majority of the geography votes republican; it is predominately the inner cities that are democrats.

I don't feel that it will be totally taxation that does it as much as continued erosion of individual freedom.  The most interest part is there are already secessionist movements taking place.  BO basically said no state will secede that was decided in the 1860's; however that does not make it so.

Here is my question.  If several states decided to secede and form a new union, who is going to fight to preserve the union?  The welfare class who are on the dole?

Happy New Year everyone,
5412

[SmilinJack]

Hi,

I think it will happen.  There was a Russian scholar after the 2008 election that predicted the breakup of the US much like happened to the Soviet Union.  He then showed the country breaking up into five parts.  His reasoning for the breakup made sense; however I disagreed with how it would turn out..

When you look at the demographics of voting by county you will notice that the vast majority of the geography votes republican; it is predominately the inner cities that are democrats.

I don't feel that it will be totally taxation that does it as much as continued erosion of individual freedom.  The most interest part is there are already secessionist movements taking place.  BO basically said no state will secede that was decided in the 1860's; however that does not make it so.

Here is my question.  If several states decided to secede and form a new union, who is going to fight to preserve the union?  The welfare class who are on the dole?

Happy New Year everyone,
5412

There is a link above about the Russian.....I do not think the coming civil unrest will be like the War Between the States ....it will not be so formal.   Ever heard of the term...'Assymetrical Warfare' that is most likely what it will be like.   

There will be No North South struggle...it will be a struggle for survival....it will start out as rioting in the big cities...most likely food riots....then people will start forming alliances....families,neighborhoods, regions etc.  these alliances will produce war lords of a sort...so there will be a complete break down first of law and order then regional and national battles. 

[SmilinJack]

You ARE being an asshole.

You are entitled to your opinion.....and opinions are like assholes...everyone has one.  heh heh

[SmilinJack]

There will not be a civil war. Obama doesn't have an army of people willing to die for obamaphones.
My worst case scenario is secession: Conservative states leave the union and Obama does nothing.

I do not think the coming violence will begin like that.  As I have already posted.....it will take a huge disaster to initiate it and then a breakdown of law and order...then it will be every man for himself...those that can form the most potent miltaristic groups will dominate.