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It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« on: November 26, 2012, 11:45:51 AM »
Whatever their first offer laid on the table is going to be don't haggle, don't try to bargain for this or that.

Every tax hike.

Every absurd new welfare program.

The deficit spending.

The invasions of privacy.

ALL. OF. IT.

Do not quibble over a single penny.

Give it to them with a smile on your face.

Do nothing that might even approach being seen as obstructing or seeking a GOP-preferred outcome.

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A new poll finds the public views the looming “fiscal cliff” as a serious crisis for the nation and would blame Republicans more than President Obama if Washington fails to reach a deal.

Forty-five percent surveyed in a new CNN/ORC poll said they would blame congressional Republicans if there is no agreement, with 34 percent pointing the finger at Obama.

Two-thirds say the U.S. would experience serious problems if the combination of tax rate increases and automatic spending cuts expected in January take effect.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/269279-poll-public-would-blame-gop-more-than-obama-if-fiscal-cliff-talks-fail

I can no longer bring myself to a place where I support policies for the good of a people who are so absolutely devoid of sense or reason.

The only thing we can do is give the prattling masses everything they want and watch the inevitable.

They want it, they deserve it and nothing we say or do will prevent them from getting it.

The best we can hope for is in 10 years time we can look back and say, "Now that you've gotten everything you demanded are your eady to grow the **** up now?"

The idiots pissed away their chance. They do not deserve propsperity and freedom. You can love America all you want but these mewling peasants are out of hand.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 11:56:33 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on November 26, 2012, 11:45:51 AM
Whatever their first offer laid on the table is going to be don't haggle, don't try to bargain for this or that.

Every tax hike.

Every absurd new welfare program.

The deficit spending.

The invasions of privacy.

ALL. OF. IT.

Do not quibble over a single penny.

Give it to them with a smile on your face.

Do nothing that might even approach being seen as obstructing or seeking a GOP-preferred outcome.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/269279-poll-public-would-blame-gop-more-than-obama-if-fiscal-cliff-talks-fail

I can no longer bring myself to a place where I support policies for the good of a people who are so absolutely devoid of sense or reason.

The only thing we can do is give the prattling masses everything they want and watch the inevitable.

They want it, they deserve it and nothing we say or do will prevent them from getting it.

The best we can hope for is in 10 years time we can look back and say, "Now that you've gotten everything you demanded are your eady to grow the **** up now?"

The idiots pissed away their chance. They do not deserve propsperity and freedom. You can love America all you want but these mewling peasants are out of hand.

Tell me again why we have to put up with these fools?  It can't be because we were founded as one nation, indivisible.  These people reject everything that the Founders stood for.  Why should I bear any obligation to just sit back and take it because some idiots in California, Massachussetts and New York are too damned stupid to see the mess that they're creating?
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 11:58:09 AM »
I've said the same thing before.  The republicans should just let the Dems have every thing they want.  The reality will bring the country to it's knees, but maybe that is what's needed.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 11:58:51 AM »
Yeah, sadly, this pretty well sums up where I am at.

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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 12:19:10 PM »
Tell Nancy to start writing the bills then every single Republican in the House votes present, then in the Senate do the same thing. That way they can honestly say they didn't support it and they didn't obstruct.

Sad part is, they will still blame the Republicans and the 0bamaphone people will eat it up.

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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 01:47:48 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 26, 2012, 11:58:09 AM
I've said the same thing before.  The republicans should just let the Dems have every thing they want.  The reality will bring the country to it's knees, but maybe that is what's needed.

That's kinda where I am.  Still, even giving them everything, it'll still probably take them three or four years to make a complete balls-up of the whole country, especially out here in the sticks.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 01:50:43 PM »
The good will suffer for the bad but it bees that way sometimes. 
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 02:17:47 PM »
Quote from: shadeaux on November 26, 2012, 01:50:43 PM
The good will suffer for the bad but it bees that way sometimes. 

The thing is, though, the good have ALREADY been suffering, at the expense of the bad.  Most of us have had a good chunk of the last 4 years to develop adaptation techniques to at least allow us to survive the nightmare. The Moochers who have been voting for Looters for a living are by no means prepared for the system they've been milking for so long to collapse under their weight.  The lesson is going to be brutal this way, but just like a "tough love" intervention, it needs to be taught.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 02:26:27 PM »
In order to kill the monster (government) the quickest way to end it's misery is to take away it's life's blood, money.

 


 

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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 02:36:26 PM »
Quote from: Dori on November 26, 2012, 02:26:27 PM
In order to kill the monster (government) the quickest way to end it's misery is to take away it's life's blood, money.

 


 



Maybe,   but since that is unworkable with the current crop of politicians, the next best way is to give them enough rope to hang themselves.  That might mean giving the Dems everything they want.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 02:45:58 PM »
All of this "let it burn" talk is fun and cathartic, but let's face reality - none of what is being said would happen in a vacuum.  A collapse of the United States equals a world wide collapse and that will do nothing but invite someone in to take all of it with very little bloodshed.

Do we really want that?  Is our situation so dire that we would risk truly being enslaved?
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 02:52:20 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on November 26, 2012, 02:45:58 PM
All of this "let it burn" talk is fun and cathartic, but let's face reality - none of what is being said would happen in a vacuum.  A collapse of the United States equals a world wide collapse and that will do nothing but invite someone in to take all of it with very little bloodshed.

Do we really want that?  Is our situation so dire that we would risk truly being enslaved?

The world is going to collapse anyway, Wasp.  The fiscal house of cards in play in Europe and China can end in no other outcome.  We, here in America are still in the relatively early stages of the same process, but by putting Dear Leader in for another four years, the odds of that same outcome here are greatly enhanced.  I don't know about you, but I'm running out of piss I can pour onto this wildfire. 

It's time to start recognizing the situation, and making preparations for the situation which is obtaining.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 02:57:45 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on November 26, 2012, 02:52:20 PM
The world is going to collapse anyway, Wasp.  The fiscal house of cards in play in Europe and China can end in no other outcome.  We, here in America are still in the relatively early stages of the same process, but by putting Dear Leader in for another four years, the odds of that same outcome here are greatly enhanced.  I don't know about you, but I'm running out of piss I can pour onto this wildfire. 

It's time to start recognizing the situation, and making preparations for the situation which is obtaining.

It's never over.  Valley Forge taught us that it's never over.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 03:02:09 PM »
No it's not over; and just like Germany emerged from the other side of the Waimar Republic, 12 years of Hitler, and another several decades under the boot of Soviet communism, America will emerge from the other side of whatever Barack Obama and the gang are "fundamentally transforming" us into.  There going to be a whole lot of shit sandwiches to choke down between now and then, though, and the only way past it all now is through it.
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 03:17:11 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on November 26, 2012, 03:02:09 PM
America will emerge from the other side of whatever Barack Obama and the gang are "fundamentally transforming" us into.  There going to be a whole lot of shit sandwiches to choke down between now and then, though, and the only way past it all now is through it.

There will be a lot of pain, a lot of suffering, but it shouldn't be because we quit.  We should not go down by just walking away, that's what the libs are counting on - apathy.  We've given it to them long enough, now is not the time to let them have it all.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2012, 05:10:23 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on November 26, 2012, 03:17:11 PM
There will be a lot of pain, a lot of suffering, but it shouldn't be because we quit.  We should not go down by just walking away, that's what the libs are counting on - apathy.  We've given it to them long enough, now is not the time to let them have it all.

It's not quitting.  It's changing tactics.  Sometimes you have to lose a few battles in order to win the war.

I mentioned in 2008 (not here necessarily) that it was game over, but I got called all kinds of silly names for it.

The collapse has been coming for most of my adult life time.  I'll probably and unfortunately live to see it happen even if I don't live through it.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2012, 06:03:24 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on November 26, 2012, 05:10:23 PM
It's not quitting.  It's changing tactics.  Sometimes you have to lose a few battles in order to win the war.

I mentioned in 2008 (not here necessarily) that it was game over, but I got called all kinds of silly names for it.

The collapse has been coming for most of my adult life time.  I'll probably and unfortunately live to see it happen even if I don't live through it.

Exactly. Changing tactics. Think of it as a rope-a-dope, let them wear themselves out trying to keep all the plates spinning and then when they crash down, just tell them "good try, it's our turn now". In the meantime, everyone with the means to do so should "go Galt" to the greatest extent possible. We may not want to block the Dems collapsing our country, but no reason we should feed it.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2012, 06:07:16 PM »
It's not defeatism, it's Sun Tzu.
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2012, 06:14:54 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 26, 2012, 06:07:16 PM
It's not defeatism, it's Sun Tzu.

Or Napoleon. "When your opponent is making a mistake, get out of his way".

We know they're making a mistake. The Dems might think that some of this is a mistake, they might not, but their base doesn't think it's a mistake.

Let's get out of their way, let them crash the car into the brick wall at full speed and then we'll pick up the pieces.
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2012, 06:15:20 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on November 26, 2012, 02:57:45 PM
It's never over.  Valley Forge taught us that it's never over.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?


I'm not calling it over. I'm saying the collapse is inevitable. We have to make sure we are not attached to it as much as possible.

What do we want?

Minimalist government. A government that does not pay people to be unproductive because it destroys prosperity and the desire to thrive. Once the collapse comes that will be the new state of things. We win either at the ballot box or by default from the fact we've defaulted and have no more money. Well, the opportunity to win at the ballot box has passed and as the article in the OP shows the GOP will be blamed if we are hurled over the fiscal cliff.

Guess what? Pat Murray and the other dems know this and WANT us to go over the fiscal cliff. Their entire agenda is based on blaming us. So I say: give the ****ers everything they demand without an argument and a knowing smile on your face.

We're the industrious ones. The productive ones. The ones who accept circumstances and do what is necessary. So give the peasants what they demand. And once their masters have failed them be reeady to pounce on every opportunity.

And there will be opportunities.

There always are.

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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2012, 06:29:07 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on November 26, 2012, 06:15:20 PM
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2012, 08:43:04 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2012, 08:53:18 PM »
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Re: It's time to rubber-stamp the liberal agenda
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2012, 09:33:50 PM »
Yep! give the Democrats everything they want and publicize it, let the Democrats :ownit:!
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