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Offline rich_t

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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2012, 06:18:45 PM »
So how's Obama doing?

He's doing a stellar job at destroying what is left of the Republic.

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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2012, 06:19:49 PM »
I know if I spend a few trillion more than you I can hold a better party.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2012, 06:20:39 PM »
Sooooo is Keywester saying that Obama is a republican? Obama comes in with anti-business policies and jobs plummet.

Looking at the graphs and the commentary I must conclude: "If Liberals didn't lie, they would have no arguments whatsoever."

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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2012, 06:32:23 PM »
I see they're still smoking and poking shit in Paradice.

We still have numerous useless county employees that were mandated by Jimmy Carter's and paid by his federal government for 2 years....then they dumped on the locals to pay them. And as usual, no government job can be eliminated.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2012, 06:40:42 PM »
Bush was handed a mild recession from Bill Clinton. Bush did what he thought would be best for the nation , we didn't see positive job growth for OVER  2 years.

Obama was handed a very very deep recession , he did what he thought was best for the nation , we saw positive job growth in about 1 year.

Think it over , it's a recent example to chew on.
The Bush economy was pretty good, in spite of attacks on this country and a three front war, until 2007 when the Democratics took over congress and the senate. Then Dodd, Fwank, and Little Chuckie pulled the pin on the housing grenade, which they had been building since the Carter era.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2012, 06:44:11 PM »
Bush was handed a mild recession from Bill Clinton. Bush did what he thought would be best for the nation , we didn't see positive job growth for OVER  2 years.

Obama was handed a very very deep recession , he did what he thought was best for the nation , we saw positive job growth in about 1 year.

Think it over , it's a recent example to chew on.
When have we seen positive job growth?

Do you mean the manipulation of numbers to get  unemployment below 9%?
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2012, 06:50:37 PM »
Imagine that.

Another rational person.

Do you know why the GOP thinks they are the party of job creation ?

Why does 0bama think he has created jobs?
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2012, 07:15:41 PM »
If you are calling BS ... then you need to post the name of the republican president who makes me a liar.

"the Carter stat is laughable" ... my numbers come from the BLS ... where do your numbers come from ?

waiting....

Then you won't mind posting the bls link and/or the raw numbers, will ya?

And sonny, as someone who has been in the workforce for every President from Carter to Obama, believe me, the only times I ever had a hard time finding a job was under Clinton.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2012, 07:29:57 PM »
So , you are telling me the unemployment rate is over 9% ???????????

You better go lay down , ... maybe get a head x-ray.

 

but of course , post an outright lie and run for the hills.

I'll tell you it is.  The U-3 number currently stands at 8.3 percent. 

HOWEVER...

U-6 stands at 15 percent.  Those are the U-3 number PLUS "discouraged" workers, plus those who are employed part-time who are seeking full-time employment.  In February of 2008, that U-6 number stood at 9.0 percent (U-3 number was at 4.9 percent).

What you fail to consider, small-minded troll bait, is that DISCOURAGED workers are no longer counted in the U-3 numbers.  Does that mean they're no less unemployed?  No.  That simply means for purposes of bean counting, if they're not drawing UE benefits and not actively seeking work, they simply "disappear".  Take, for instance, the utilization percentage.  In 2008, that number was at 66.0 percent.  In February 2012, that number was 63.9 percent--in other words, over 2 percent (or nearly 3 million people) just "dropped off the radar", so to speak...and if they HAD been counted, unemployment would be closer to 11 percent, not 8.3 (and rising, according to the information I'm hearing.)



Ya see, scooter, Obama and the Dems have done a bang-up job of cooking the books to make shit look better than it is, but even then they can only stretch shit so far. 

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

A few tidbits, if I may:

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The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) was little
changed at 5.4 million in February. These individuals accounted for 42.6 percent of
the unemployed.


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The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred
to as involuntary part-time workers) was essentially unchanged at 8.1 million in
February.

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In February, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls rose
by 3 cents, or 0.1 percent, to $23.31. Over the past 12 months, average hourly earnings
have increased by 1.9 percent.

Only problem is, gas has increased by nearly $1/gallon (and over $2/gallon since January 2009), food is up nearly 10 percent since last year, health insurance costs are up an average of 9 percent, and the list goes on....

In other words, your Dear Reader tells you what you think you want to hear, but the reality around you is quite different.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2012, 07:33:56 PM »
Bush was handed a mild recession from Bill Clinton. Bush did what he thought would be best for the nation , we didn't see positive job growth for OVER  2 years.

Obama was handed a very very deep recession , he did what he thought was best for the nation , we saw positive job growth in about 1 year.

Think it over , it's a recent example to chew on.

And Bush 41 handed Clinton an improving economy.  Carter handed Reagan a warm pile of runny shit.  And we're still not seeing positive job growth.  Just to KEEP PACE with population growth, we need to be adding an average of 250-300K jobs per month.  How many months have we seen that kind of growth under Dear Reader?  (Hint: two.)  Under Obama, we've still had a NET LOSS of jobs.  We still have over 8 percent unemployment, and if people come back into the workforce, expect that number to top 10 percent again.  We have the lowest workforce participation rate in over 30 years.

Think it over, more examples to chew on.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2012, 07:59:48 PM »
If liberals are so great at creating jobs why are they always pushing for more welfare, unemployment, food stamps and subsidized housing?

Maybe I'm just crazy but it seems to me if they're so damned good at getting people to work those programs would not be needed.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2012, 08:13:04 PM »
ummmmmmmmmm.I think we lost him people.....
and if he does come back, I am gonna steal Thor's hammer!!!
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2012, 09:45:49 PM »
my numbers come from the BLS

You have numbers from the BLS?  Okay, let's see them.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2012, 09:57:42 PM »
Obama was handed a very very deep recession , he did what he thought was best for the nation , we saw positive job growth in about 1 year.

Obama was also handed a AAA bond rating which he managed to piss away.  Any "job growth" that happened in 2009 vanished when the stimulus ran out.  Which, by the way, he also managed to run up a very steep price tag on the backs of the tax payers while getting in a lot of time on the greens.  The voters he fooled have long memories and they will not forget the misery he created.

Face it, little barry big ears is going down in flames this year and there won't be a damned thing you'll be able to do to stop it.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2012, 04:50:23 AM »
Bush was handed a mild recession from Bill Clinton. Bush did what he thought would be best for the nation , we didn't see positive job growth for OVER  2 years.

Obama was handed a very very deep recession , he did what he thought was best for the nation , we saw positive job growth in about 1 year.

Think it over , it's a recent example to chew on.

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The exact usefulness of these numbers is debated. On the one hand, they include only nonfarm payroll employment, which excludes certain types of jobs, notably the self-employed. However, as a semi-balancing factor, they count one person with two jobs as two employed persons.

It appears that what your figures actually show is that employment under Democratic presidents causes far more people to try to manage on 2 or more part-time jobs, while employment under Republican presidents allows most people to find 1 full-time job.  :lmao: :lmao:

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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2012, 06:40:30 AM »
If you are calling BS ... then you need to post the name of the republican president who makes me a liar.

"the Carter stat is laughable" ... my numbers come from the BLS ... where do your numbers come from ?

waiting....


I have not seen a troll use the "I won because I said I won" argument since the paulbot invasion of 2008. Or do I just not pay enough attention?
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2012, 06:57:59 AM »

I have not seen a troll use the "I won because I said I won" argument since the paulbot invasion of 2008. Or do I just not pay enough attention?

Attention span is based on the amount of income taxes paid....you're in good shape.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2012, 07:42:13 AM »
According to International Business Times Reagan created almost 6 million more jobs then Carter did, so there goes your theory, also under Clinton we had the .com bubble burst and 5 trillion dollars was lost hence causing a Bush inherited recession, add to that a total disregard of foreign policy in the Clinton Administration and the loss of persons and the amount of money we're forced to spend because of that disregard has been astronomical.

The international business Times?

And where did they get their numbers ?

That's what I thought

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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2012, 07:45:47 AM »
Oh is this funny

Three pages now and nobody can list the name of the Republican that makes the OP a lie

Instead of posting spin and lies why not just post the name of the Republican that saw job creation rise ?

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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2012, 07:50:20 AM »
Link to the original chart?


...waiting...
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2012, 07:52:47 AM »
Oh is this funny

Three pages now and nobody can list the name of the Republican that makes the OP a lie

Instead of posting spin and lies why not just post the name of the Republican that saw job creation rise ?

Sorry. You might have missed my post.

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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2012, 08:00:25 AM »
Oh is this funny

Three pages now and nobody can list the name of the Republican that makes the OP a lie


Many have, you ****ing retard.
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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2012, 08:12:24 AM »
Here's a chart for you.





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Re: No Republican preisdent has ever...
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2012, 08:18:33 AM »
Are you blaming the dem house for the rise in unemployment ?

I suppose you think they collapsed the economy to , and bush had nothing to do with it

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« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2012, 08:19:38 AM »
Are you blaming the dem house for the rise in unemployment ?

I suppose you think they collapsed the economy to , and bush had nothing to do with it

Sure Bush had something to do with it, after he started acting like a fiscal liberal and "working" with your moonbat representatives to start bailing ****ing private businesses out.


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