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[dandi]

Bump this ass crumb to 50 posts.

Don't make us wade through another 15 posts of his drivel.

Meh, why worry about that.  This is an ignorant kid that wants to remain ignorant.

[RZZZA]

lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?

We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.

When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?

The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty. All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it. Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.

Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.

[TheSarge]

lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?

Right because I'm supposed to let some twinkle toed spineless little POS who doesn't have the balls to do what I do just mock my service? I'm just supposed to take it?

We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.

So frisking grandma and 12 y/o boys while people in turbans and named Mohammed walk right through is better for us than a military?  YOur kind of backwards ass thinking is what brought us 9/11 in the first place.

When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?

Nope. It doesn't.  But hey what do I know...I'm just over here in the middle of it right?  You and those pointy headed asshats at HuffPo are WAY better at figuring out how to combat terrorism from the safety of your basement.
 

Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.

You were looking in the mirror when you typed that weren't you?

Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.

They are called the Islamic Republic of Iran.  Wold you like me to send you a link on Google Maps to the nearest Marine Corps or Army recruiting station?

[IassaFTots]

You ignorant, wet mouthed, sniveling prig!

Do you have the first clue about the veteran you just denigrated?  Do you have any clue how much you have insulted the rest of the veterans on this board?

Let me save both of us some time:  No, you don't. 

You are a willfully ignorant, mewling child that has no idea of the world past your ipod and American Idol.  You like to think you know something but you truly don't.  Insulting those that live American policy at the tip of the spear is stupidity at the highest level.

Why do you think you are safe in your midwest home?  Why do you think it is that we have not had a significant loss of life due to islamokazie attacks since 2001?

Huh, boy?

It is because of people like TXRadioGuy, Mr Snuggle Bunny, Dumbass Tanker, Airwolf, wasp69, Eupher, Thor, NHSparky, Ree, my oldest son, and many others (my apologies to the many that I didn't include) that you live with a smug attitude of security.  Those that put their asses on the line and took the fight to the jihadis instead of allowing them to come here and bring it to us.  Again.

In other words, your betters. 

People who you have no hope (in your current state) of being able to come anywhere near reaching the standards they set in front of you. 

I have news for you, sweetheart, we were attacked and over 3000 of your countrymen lost their lives.  War was brought to this country by non-state actors supported by a rogue government, not a standing army.  You know, the same kind of scenarios you play on your X box.  We are living the real "Modern Warfare". 

If you were paying attention these past 9 years, history student, you would know what their goals are and how they intend to carry them out.  People like the above mentioned are the only things standing between you and those who want you in chains. 

Do you think for one second, child, these monsters don't want you cowering in your midwest home?  Do you think for one second, child, that they don't want you dead?  You're an infidel and a Godless infidel at that.  That makes you lower than any Christian or Jew.  That puts you at the front of the line for getting your head chopped off.

Wake up, boy, and ditch that stupid attitude of yours.  You're a kid, you don't know shit from shit, and pull up your pants!

Thanks for saying all that ^ much better than what I could get out of my head this morning. I appreciate it. 

[Eupher]

lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?

The only nerve you "struck" was the one that has irretrievably painted you as a spineless little keyboard commando who doesn't have the balls and the nerve to ruck up and SERVE this nation. No, you little boy, you'd rather run your very large mouth.

We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.

And your skills and qualifications to make such pontifical statements are?

When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?

Terrorists understand POWER and WILLINGNESS TO FIGHT. Collateral damage is nothing more than a pretense to get spineless little surrender monkeys like you to throw your hands up, bend over, and wait for the inevitable raping. If you're lucky, they'll stop there. If not, they'll cut your worthless head off.

When you understand that the institution of Islam creates terrorists simply by virtue of the "religion" itself, then you can begin to understand the threat. Until then, you're just yapping. Suggest you stop your yapping and start listening.

The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty. All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it. Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.

Looks like OBL's techniques are working pretty well on you. Surrender monkeys like you want to retreat into your Mommy's basement and depend on guys like TRG to snuff the bad guy. Here's a news flash, genius - they're coming for you too.

Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.

Shall we also let you know when that "scary muslim" and his cell has targeted your home and your way of life? Another news flash, genius - he already has. You're too blind in your liberalism to see it.

[Chris]

lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion when you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?

Your "rights" do not extend that far on this board.  Disparaging the service of active and veteran military is a violation of the terms you agreed to when you signed up to post here.

[TheSarge]

RZZZA you've lied to us.  You appeared here the day after the election claiming you wanted to learn.  You said you wanted to understand Conservatives and why we believe what we do.  You also claimed to be a history buff.

You lied.

Since then you've done exactly the polar opposite of what you said.  You've done nothing but lip synched tired old canards and outright falsehoods from your Libtard brethren from the MSM and various Liberal hate sites.  you've mocked Conservative leaders and former Republican Presidents called conservative talk show hosts and members of the Tea Party Patriots lunatics.

You equated the Federalists...the Founding Fathers of our nation of being Socialists and specifically you falsely accused George Washington and Alexander hamilton of supporting socialism.

And you did this all without a scintilla of evidence or one credible link to back up the blatant lies you were telling.  This despite repeated demands for even the most basic of evidence to support your wild accusations.

As if that weren't bad enough you then went WAY over your head in the intelligence pool by giving us a bunch of bullshit about our over reaction to terrorism...why we are wrong to have gone to Iraq and Afghanistan and for the cherry on top...you proceeded to not only insult MY service in the military...but that of about a half dozen other members at the same time who have stepped up and answered the nations call to serve at some point in their adult life.  Which I might add is a direct violation of the TOS of this website that you agreed to when you signed up.

So that leaves me to wonder...it has me wanting to know just one thing from you.

Why are you so ******* stupid?  Think about this and choose your answer wisely.

[dandi]

lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying.

Crying?  I don't cry, boy, I leave that to you liberal metrosexuals.

Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?

Handling a dissenting opinion is not a problem.  You were chugging along just fine until you decided to be a typical liberal kid.  We all have our hot buttons and mine just happens to be snot nosed liberal children, who strut around thinking they are smarter than everyone else in the room, deciding to take a swipe at the service of a honorable veteran. 

We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.

Oh, you mean fight a more sensitive war against terror?

 

If that is your great plan, be prepared to have lots of EMS people on standby to respond to the constant bombings and acts of terror.

When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?

Woefully ignorant....

What do you think created the terrorists to begin with?

And, what do you think persuaded the tribal leaders in Iraq to cooperate with the American Forces (think Fallujah)?

Hopefully, if you get this right, you will have answered your own question.

The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty.

Really?  Then what was the purpose of flying planes into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, and the Capitol Building?

Hmmmmm?

C'mon, sooper genius, this one ought to be easy for such a great "student of history".

All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand

And our response should be?  Do you even know what "terrorism" is?

...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it.

Please, do tell me what bin laden's true goal was. 

And this stupid "no way to pay for it" shit....  Did we somewhere along the line stop collecting taxes? 

Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.

Liberals...  So ignorant and (thank God) now so utterly irrelevant.

Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.

War was brought to your shores, boy.



By an enemy who wants you dead. 

Not defeated, dead. 

If you are not dead, they want you cowering in fear of them.

Trust me on this, kid, they are monsters who will not stop unless we defeat them.

If you are unwilling to man up today and do something about it, you never will.

If you are too much of a coward to take a stand now, then don't be surprised when war is brought to your city.

And it is war, boy, make no mistake.  Just because you don't think it is doesn't mean they don't think it is. 

And they are counting on you to be weak.

[dutch508]

I've not really paid too much attention to you, as I saw you are simply another leftist spitting out talking points- irony is, you claim that of us. We do. I won't disagree that the right side has their fine share of problems, but most of my values line up on that side, and not the left. However- I shall reply to your post. My words will be in red so you can see them better.

lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?

Not directed to me so I don't really give a shit. Irnoy is, I spent my entire life defending your right to have an opinion. I may not agree with your opinion, and I will voice it when I feel I want to. YOU should be able to handle that. Pitty DU doesn't agree with that simple principle.

We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.

What is to stop us form doing that? Oh, yeah...people's rights. As to your theory that we don't need a 'big unwealdy army in foriegn countries to protect us, Yes we do. It is far better to stomp out the terror away from our shores so we don't have shit blowing up in downtown bum****, Ohio every Friday. Sort of like they do in Pakistan. Also, for Imperialists, we sure do suck at imposing our will on other people. I suggest you look at the US State of Japan or Germany, or Iraq, if you disagree.
When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?

The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty. All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it. Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.

The enemy you are talking about ran a country (Afghanistan) until we forced them out. The run most of Northern Pakistan. Iran. Sudan. Somolia. Yemen. Iraq? Yeah. Iraq was assisting anyone who would **** with the US. Check out the log reports from Northern and Southern Watch during the 90s to see how a State did all it could to threaten our sovereignty. Look at England or France for what could be coming to the US. I haven't even mentiuoned Russia, China, or N. Korea.

Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.

The point is lost to you that once the 'scary muslim men' get to our coasts, we've already lost the war.

You came in here with a willingness to discuss and learn. You were recieved with hostility because we've seen, time and time again, NO leftist comes in here wanting to listen and talk. They want to tell us what is 'right'. When they don't get their way, they rapidly turn to shouting and throwing things like the children they are.

I am growing more and more certain that soon your kind will have to be removed, completely, from the society if we are to survive. You don't want the USA as most of us in this country want it. You will not be happy (ever) unless this turns into a copy of the Soviet Union. You won't be happy then either- but at least you will feel like you are getting somewhere.

[TheSarge]

RZZZA are you going to keep luring in this thread like a scared little girl or are you going to man up and answer the question I posed to you?

There is a time limit on this.

[RZZZA]

Do you have the first clue about the veteran you just denigrated?  Do you have any clue how much you have insulted the rest of the veterans on this board?

My intent was not to insult any of you, If I have done that then I apologize. I'm just questioning your opinions and disagreeing with you, that's all I'm doing. If my aim was really to insult you I would say stuff like this:

You ignorant, wet mouthed, sniveling prig!

twinkle toed spineless little POS

you obtuse dolt.

You ungrateful skrunt. Typical liberal scum

Why are you so goddammed stupid

That's just from the last page and a half. Please find one quote of me flaming you guys or personally insulting you.

Any insult you perceive from me WAS NOT intentional on my part. What you're insulted by is my ignorance and naivete. You could handle it better.

The only nerve you "struck" was the one that has irretrievably painted you as a spineless little keyboard commando who doesn't have the balls and the nerve to ruck up and SERVE this nation. No, you little boy, you'd rather run your very large mouth.

I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards. Should 99% of us refrain from having an opinion on geo politics? Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.

Terrorists understand POWER and WILLINGNESS TO FIGHT. Collateral damage is nothing more than a pretense to get spineless little surrender monkeys like you to throw your hands up, bend over, and wait for the inevitable raping. If you're lucky, they'll stop there. If not, they'll cut your worthless head off.

When you understand that the institution of Islam creates terrorists simply by virtue of the "religion" itself, then you can begin to understand the threat. Until then, you're just yapping. Suggest you stop your yapping and start listening.

It sounds to me like you want to kill every muslim in the world, do I understand you correctly?

Looks like OBL's techniques are working pretty well on you. Surrender monkeys like you want to retreat into your Mommy's basement and depend on guys like TRG to snuff the bad guy. Here's a news flash, genius - they're coming for you too.

Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far.  Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.

Shall we also let you know when that "scary muslim" and his cell has targeted your home and your way of life? Another news flash, genius - he already has. You're too blind in your liberalism to see it.

I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.

Your "rights" do not extend that far on this board.  Disparaging the service of active and veteran military is a violation of the terms you agreed to when you signed up to post here.

Again, I don't think I've denigrated or disparaged anyone. If you've been insulted by me, I'm sorry, that was not my intent.

So frisking grandma and 12 y/o boys while people in turbans and named Mohammed walk right through is better for us than a military?

I think you'd agree that more effective security at airports and at our ports would stop a lot of these terrorist threats. As would more effective police work. Invading countries with giant armies isn't the only way of protecting ourselves. It may even be counter-productive.

YOur kind of backwards ass thinking is what brought us 9/11 in the first place.

Right. 9/11 was all my fault. What an unfair statement.

Nope. It doesn't.

really? So invading Iraq, Afghanistan, being in the process of invading Pakistan and...as you insinuated, fighting a war with Iran...disenfranchising, displacing and killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people...in NO way creates any terrorists? All because a small band of terrorists killed 3,000 of our citizens? That doesn't seem like a disproportionate response to you?

But hey what do I know...I'm just over here in the middle of it right?  You and those pointy headed asshats at HuffPo are WAY better at figuring out how to combat terrorism from the safety of your basement.

If I'm too far away from it to know what's going on, maybe (and don't be insulted by this)...maybe you're too close to it. Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees. Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans and when I ask how we're doing over there, not one of them has said "GREAT! We're winning! Things are going great.". Don't you find that a little troubling?

[dutch508]

Right...Because if it wasn't for TxRadioGuy, Afghani tribesmen would be at my door, waving AK-47's in my face, and demanding I convert to Islam or be beheaded. If I was living in Afghanistan, I would certainly need his protection and sacrifice, but I don't. I live in the midwest. If Afghanistan had some standing army, and they were on the verge of landing on the East coast and invading the United States, I would be very thankful that people like TxRadioGuy were standing between me and them. But as it is, I don't feel any threat from Afghanis regardless if TxRadioGuy is over there or not.

Nahh. Tex is a ****ing jounalist. I and my kind are the killers. See the problem with your world view is you want it only to prove the shit you think is right. One World! Peace! Love and Understanding!

Yeha, sounds great. Really. If I thought there was a chance that it would work I'd sign the **** up. BUT- and there is always one, there are a lot of scary dudes who don't think that shit, and they really don't care if you do. Some of them believe in a God and they will do anything to convert everyone to that belief. Some just want power and money.

In many places in the world life isn't worth the cost of a dinner. There are places in the US that are the same. I would much rather partol downtown N. O. and kill ****ing drug dealers than hump the Hindu Kush hunting Taliban and AQ. But hey, it's a job.

MY job is to make sure you worthless leftist cocksuckers can jack off to Das Kapital and wave signs around on the street corners. Yeah, bring me home and I would much rather stomp your ugly ass than talk to you. BUT- my job is to make sure you are that gawddam stupid.

[TheSarge]

My intent was not to insult any of you, If I have done that then I apologize. I'm just questioning your opinions and disagreeing with you, that's all I'm doing. If my aim was really to insult you I would say stuff like this:

That's just from the last page and a half. Please find one quote of me flaming you guys or personally insulting you.

Any insult you perceive from me WAS NOT intentional on my part. What you're insulted by is my ignorance and naivete. You could handle it better.
 

I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards. Should 99% of us refrain from having an opinion on geo politics? Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.

It sounds to me like you want to kill every muslim in the world, do I understand you correctly?

Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far.  Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.

I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.

Again, I don't think I've denigrated or disparaged anyone. If you've been insulted by me, I'm sorry, that was not my intent.

I think you'd agree that more effective security at airports and at our ports would stop a lot of these terrorist threats. As would more effective police work. Invading countries with giant armies isn't the only way of protecting ourselves. It may even be counter-productive.


Right. 9/11 was all my fault. What an unfair statement.

really? So invading Iraq, Afghanistan, being in the process of invading Pakistan and...as you insinuated, fighting a war with Iran...disenfranchising, displacing and killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people...in NO way creates any terrorists? All because a small band of terrorists killed 3,000 of our citizens? That doesn't seem like a disproportionate response to you?

If I'm too far away from it to know what's going on, maybe (and don't be insulted by this)...maybe you're too close to it. Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees. Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans and when I ask how we're doing over there, not one of them has said "GREAT! We're winning! Things are going great.". Don't you find that a little troubling?

Wrong answer.  You are living proof that Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid.



Good riddance DUmbass!

[dutch508]

I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards. Should 99% of us refrain from having an opinion on geo politics? Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.

Yeah. Sometimes it feels that way. But no. You are not all spineless cowards. Some are. The military isn't for everyone. It takes something special to do this where you put something else ahead of your own life. We do it every day. It's because, to me, this country is bigger than just my life, or yours, or any one persons.

It sounds to me like you want to kill every muslim in the world, do I understand you correctly?

My job is to defend this country against ALL enemies, foreign or domestic. I spent my last tour with the Iraq Army, so your statement just shows your stupidity.

Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far.  Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.

They are already invading this country. Slowly, quietly. Building the groundwork. They have already attacked us. They will continue to do so. Your denial to reality shows your stupidity.

I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.

The whole big stick approach. You just don't get it. So, if you were getting beat up in Grade School you would go to the teachers and tell on the guys beating you up, right? Then when they'd gotten in trouble, and followed you after school and beat you up again, you still wouldn't fight back? They only way they are going to stop is when they are either all dead, or more scared of our response that they are of attcking us.

Again, I don't think I've denigrated or disparaged anyone. If you've been insulted by me, I'm sorry, that was not my intent.

You are a leftist. You don't understand that your comments are insulting.

I think you'd agree that more effective security at airports and at our ports would stop a lot of these terrorist threats. As would more effective police work. Invading countries with giant armies isn't the only way of protecting ourselves. It may even be counter-productive.

Yup. Oh, wait. The latest series of attacks were started in foreign airposts and worked to avoid security. Damn those cheating som'bitches.

really? So invading Iraq, Afghanistan, being in the process of invading Pakistan and...as you insinuated, fighting a war with Iran...disenfranchising, displacing and killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people...in NO way creates any terrorists? All because a small band of terrorists killed 3,000 of our citizens? That doesn't seem like a disproportionate response to you?

Well...by your way of looking at it, anything more than a strongly worded letter to the UN is a dispropostioned response...

If I'm too far away from it to know what's going on, maybe (and don't be insulted by this)...maybe you're too close to it. Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees. Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans and when I ask how we're doing over there, not one of them has said "GREAT! We're winning! Things are going great.". Don't you find that a little troubling?

Well are winning. You feel bad that we are winning? You are a leftist, so I can see that your country winning would pain you. It's a hard tough war. Why don't you ask them how they felt about being there, what they saw?

You are a big dumbass. But you are young. You really want to talk about the war- give me a PM and I'll talk to you about it.

[dutch508]

Wrong answer.  You are living proof that Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid.



Good riddance DUmbass!

you killed him too soon.

bitchslap.

[dandi]

Any insult you perceive from me WAS NOT intentional on my part. What you're insulted by is my ignorance and naivete. You could handle it better.

The last thing I need is a lecture on etiquette from some worthless lib kid.  Save it for someone who hasn't defended your right to be the worst you can be.
 

I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards.

Nope, just you and any other "know nothing" lefty that thinks like you do.

Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.

You disagree with hunting down and killing those who would do our country harm?  Had it right the first time - coward.

I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation.

When dealing with madmen, overwhelming force and the will to use it is the only answer.  Or did you think we may have taken things a bit too far with Hitler?

I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response.

This is what the terrorists are counting on.  We had your dumb ass pegged from the beginning.

Lowlife, leftist, coward.

I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.

Thank God there are those of us who volunteer to do violence on your behalf so that is all you have to worry about.

I think you'd agree that more effective security at airports and at our ports would stop a lot of these terrorist threats. As would more effective police work. Invading countries with giant armies isn't the only way of protecting ourselves. It may even be counter-productive.

Well, let's see:

Bill Clinton treated this as a law enforcement issue and we ended up getting attacked repeatedly; abroad and at home.

GWB treated this as a military problem and nothing since.

Hmmmmmmmm, I'm sure there is a correlation somewhere....

 

Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans....

110% of your problem right there, boy.  Not one scintilla of real world experience and a refusal to listen to those that have it.

[Wineslob]

RZZZA tape your tiny prick to your asshole and go back to imitating Dame Edna RuPaul. .

[Mike220]

Being a college student AND a veteran (though not a combat veteran of course) I know he's full of shit.

There will be a few who feel as he does, but they're in the minority.

[Thor]

Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far.  Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.

I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.

You simply are NOT paying attention!! Are you too busy watching American Idol or playing XBox games??  Look at Detroit!! Look at Minneapolis!! Hell, look at Texas, where Texas has Sharia courts!! There have already been terrorist attacks on our soil The mall in Salt Lake City.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_Square_shooting  Then we have Major Nidal Hassan at Ft Hood and a couple of others. There have been many more of them negated through good police work. You'd BEST wake up and smell the coffee!!!

[ColonialMarine0431]

Maybe he could do a few gigs with the circus. Of course, it wouldn't be much of a stretch.

[Attero Dominatus]

lol, i really struck a nerve didn't I? Now who's crying. Relax, if you defend my right to having an opinion then you should be able to handle it when I share it. You can handle fighting in the military but you can't handle dissenting opinion in your little conservative concave?

We'll always be vulnerable to small bands of terrorists, we don't need a large unwieldy army in foreign countries to protect us from that, we need better airport/port security.

When the military accidentally kills innocent civilians (don't tell me it doesn't happen), don't you think that creates about as many terrorists as it destroys?

The enemy we're fighting now has no standing army, no planes, no tanks, no any real way to threaten our sovereignty. All they can do is try to hijack planes and build ghetto-ass bombs to try and scare us into paranoia, cow-tow us to fear, and force our hand...just as Bin Laden did when he forced us to invade two countries with no way to pay for it. Americans...so stupid, so easily misled.

Let me know when a scary muslim army has gathered planes, boats and tanks to invade our coasts, I'll pick up a gun and join the military then.

You should really go to Malmö, Sweden. Or the outskirts of Paris. Or the areas of Israel near the West Bank and Gaza Strip whenever Israel makes a concession. See for yourself what happens when an ideology of conquest is appeased. Or Detroit.

Oh, and **** off. The forum was civil to you and if slandering the serving members is what you give in return, then you need to be zotted.

On edit: I guess he got zotted after all. Good riddance.

[Eupher]

What you're insulted by is my ignorance and naivete. You could handle it better.

You dare to claim - in the span of two short sentences - that you're both ignorant and naive? And then have the audacity, the chutzpah, the ****ing NERVE to wag your silly little finger at this board and tell us that we "could handle it better"? That is rich.  

It would appear that you've been banned, or are very nearly so. I'm going to go on the supposition that you can, at least, read what is being written here - at least if you're capable of understanding written English. Since you claim to be a college student and you're all smart and shit, I'm going with the assumption.
 

I thought only 1% of Americans serve in the military? If that figure is accurate then, according to you, 99% of Americans are spineless cowards. Should 99% of us refrain from having an opinion on geo politics? Not every person is cut out for a life in the military, especially so when they disagree with the mission(s) in the first place.

There are a few problems with your statement. First of all, the vast majority of the 99% of Americans who don't serve in the military wouldn't even DARE to suggest that they know what our elected leaders and military leaders know. THEY are not privy to classified information, THEY don't have training in the operational art, THEY form policy and the military executes that policy. Second, disagree with the mission all you want - from your position as low peckerhead on the reacharound panel - your opinion is worthless and pointless. Why? Something to do with training, education, and experience - of which you have ZERO.

By all means! Go ahead and spew the liberal mantra. The talking points and the memes that reveal nothing but pure ignorance and failure to see the reality that is life - not the way you want it. Your version of utopia is right out of Never Never Land - ain't gonna happen, son.

It sounds to me like you want to kill every muslim in the world, do I understand you correctly?

I'm prepared to follow the oath that I've sworn to and am still subject to - to support and defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies - foreign and domestic.  The Muslim "religion", to me, is a false religion because it is based on hate, vilification, and violence. But that's another thread for another day.

Are they? I don't see "them" capable of invading any part of the united states, but on the contrary, we've invaded 1 sovereign country and one semi-sovereign country so far.  Sending small bands of terrorists to hijack planes or carry bombs is not the same thing as threatening our sovereignty or invading our country.

Where's that facepalm smiley when I need it?!?  I'll type slowly, so you can get it -- the mere ACT of committing this kind of heinous attack on American soil threatens our sovereignty. Do you not see that? Look what happened at the onset of WWII, Mr. History Buff: Hawaii wasn't even a ****ing STATE when Japan attacked. So for Muslims to commandeer AMERICAN aircraft and drive them into AMERICAN buildings that are standing on AMERICAN soil - what's that telling you, champ?

I see it. There's no question that we were attacked. I just disagree with our response to those attacks, I think it was disproportionate and not the best way to handle the situation. I'm perfectly willing to live my life accepting the fact that I MAY be the victim of a foreign terrorist attack, I don't see the threat posed to me great enough to justify our disproportionate response. I'm more afraid of getting into a car accident or being the victim of a mugging than I am of foreign terrorists.

Those who are making decisions at levels far above mine, much less yours, are going to take a much more prudent position. Readiness is everything. Failing to see the threat is lunacy and irresponsible behavior. Thank God you're not running the show.

If I'm too far away from it to know what's going on, maybe (and don't be insulted by this)...maybe you're too close to it. Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees. Being a college student, I've spoken to a lot of veterans and when I ask how we're doing over there, not one of them has said "GREAT! We're winning! Things are going great.". Don't you find that a little troubling?

Call me when you've been where I've been and seen what I've seen. Until then, go plant your own ******* forest. I can see all my trees, but you couldn't find your ass with a road map.

[rich_t]

Liberals pissed all over George Bush no matter what he did.  Nothing I can say will convince you otherwise, so STFU.

Bingo.

[rich_t]

Glenn Beck is a lunatic. You'd be hard pressed to find someone more conservative than my father, and even he hates glenn beck and thinks he's a lunatic. Also, anyone who attends a political protest is pretty much a lunatic. Political protests inherently draw on the fringe of political society. Sane, moderate people dont gather together to chant stupid slogans and wave stupid signs as if its somehow meaningful. They have better things to do.

Thats what they called THEMSELVES up until they realized it was already an existing term for a sexual act.

You think that's insulting? Wait till I get going. **** religion. Being nondenominational and/or an unbeliever is the American way.


Who cares what gifts he gives? Only you. Only people who love to complain about bullshit. He removed the bust of Churchill, A European and replaced it with a bust of Able Lincoln, an American. Do you people suddenly prefer European heros  to American heros? news to me. Special relationship? It was George Washington who said "avoid foreign entanglements."

Personally, I think Winston Churchill was a great man and a great leader.

So...  MLK and those that marched with him were lunatics?

Interesting world view you have noob.

[dandi]

So...  MLK and those that marched with him were lunatics?

Interesting world view you have noob.

Psssst, hey, Rich!

He got his ass zotted...