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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2010, 07:08:34 AM »
I will gladly pay him a one-way ticket to Cuba and North Korea.  :-)

   Why thankyou. Wire me "the monies" and I shall be on my way. I'll even send you a postcard, if i can find one.
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2010, 07:10:58 AM »
You won't get an answer from the Useful Idiot. He has never delivered any real counterpoint to the facts any of us have posted, but just posts DU-style rants against Capitalism and the usual 'The USSR was not real communism' defense (I guess he has never read about Joseph Stalin's collectivization policy).

   Ooops, wrong again. Collectivization doesn't necessarily equate to communism, despite being a vital part it is also used by Fascism. The polar opposite.
   

   Honestly, what did you guys do on this site before I came? Just agree with each other over and over again?
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2010, 07:13:27 AM »



My favorite picture of Ernesto


   Mine:

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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2010, 08:25:25 AM »
   Why thankyou. Wire me "the monies" and I shall be on my way. I'll even send you a postcard, if i can find one.

**** your money.  Plane ticket.  One-way.  Non-refundable. 

So which do you prefer--Havana or Pyongyang?
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2010, 08:27:51 AM »

   Mine:



So what is it about him that you adore so?  The fact he murdered innocents?  Imprisoned people by the tens of thousands?  Or the fact that the capitalist society he (and you) so hated has marketed him into an icon for deluded idiotic "utes" such as yourselves to plunk down your hard earned (well, someone earned it before you got your dole) cash on a t-shirt with his visage, thereby broadcasting to the world what a ****ing dipshit you are?
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2010, 09:02:36 AM »
   Why thankyou. Wire me "the monies" and I shall be on my way. I'll even send you a postcard, if i can find one.

 
Hey Psychopath, care to offer a retort to the article I posted...or did you come her to fellate the photo Che Psycho publically?

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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2010, 10:40:50 AM »
   Ooops, wrong again. Collectivization doesn't necessarily equate to communism, despite being a vital part it is also used by Fascism. The polar opposite.
   

   Honestly, what did you guys do on this site before I came? Just agree with each other over and over again?

How is fascism the polar opposite?  It is the sibling, or at most, first cousin to communism.  Fascism is state control of the means of production, despite private ownership.  The state decides what to build, where to build, who to hire and fire, what they get paid, etc.  Fascism requires massive control over a society, imposed by the government by force, much like communism does.  Or are you using the current definition of fascism: anything you happen to disagree with?

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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2010, 10:50:10 AM »
I'm guessing that if our little chewtoy bothered to read a few pages of Jonah Goldberg's book Liberal Fascism, his head might well explode from the realization that the Nazis and Communists were mere shades apart from each other in more ways than one.  In fact, the only SERIOUS disagreement between fascists and communists/socialists was national versus international socialism.
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2010, 12:45:51 PM »
  Ooops, wrong again. Collectivization doesn't necessarily equate to communism, despite being a vital part it is also used by Fascism. The polar opposite.
  

   Honestly, what did you guys do on this site before I came? Just agree with each other over and over again?

Collectivism is at the heart of all variants of Marxism and the mass murder it results in.

Fascism was an evolution of Nationalist Syndicalism and the system's creator, Benito Mussolini was a committed Marxist. Fascism is just another variant of Marxism just like National Socialism.
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2010, 12:54:01 PM »
   Honestly, what did you guys do on this site before I came? Just agree with each other over and over again?

Schooled Eurotrash like you when they tried to do what you're doing here...again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2010, 12:56:29 PM »
I thought communists were Darwinists by trade.

I always thought they were Darwin Award winners by trade. In fact I'm surprised the ignorant Eurotrash who started this thread hasn't won one yet.
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #61 on: June 03, 2010, 01:49:22 PM »

   Mine:



Any rational explanation as to why you hero worship a psychopathic murder?

I can't wait to here you explain your love for this thug.
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #62 on: June 03, 2010, 02:20:43 PM »
Any rational explanation as to why you hero worship a psychopathic murder?

I can't wait to here you explain your love for this thug.

In that picture. Che looks ghey.

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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #63 on: June 03, 2010, 04:28:20 PM »
H5 -- good one.
Apparently he ignored this little factoid.

I wonder why?
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #64 on: June 04, 2010, 08:23:59 AM »
Gotta give the commie credit... he lured you into his trap.

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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #65 on: June 04, 2010, 11:41:43 AM »
Gotta give the commie credit... he lured you into his trap.

And what would that "trap" be exactly?
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #66 on: June 04, 2010, 11:51:07 AM »
And what would that "trap" be exactly?

The trap of wasting time by responding to the tripe he posts?

But it has a while since a new chew toy showed up, so I don't blame folks for taking a bite.
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #67 on: June 04, 2010, 11:37:05 PM »

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Good point. Especially when we KNOW, that in the mind of all good commies, the ends ALWAYS justify the means.

Excuse me, how did your hero end up?



Precisely in the historical context he and his IDEOLOGY deserve. 

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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #68 on: June 04, 2010, 11:56:19 PM »
I know this is futile but I can't help but add to the imagery.

From the following link: LINK



He was very 'brave' when he was at La Cabaña Fortress murdering innocent civilians





But he seemed really scared after he was captured by Bolivian soldiers

He was a PIG




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An essay by Dr. Douglas Young, Professor of Political Science & History at Gainesville State College
February 10, 2009
Hollywood has dutifully churned out yet another cinematic agitprop paean to a leftist “martyr,” this time Ernesto Guevara. So let’s recall the real “Che” and try to discern why many supposedly democratic, civil libertarian liberals still swoon over this Stalinist mass-murderer.

The meticulous myth of Senor Guevara is of a handsome Argentine heroically helping Fidel Castro’s guerrillas liberate Cuba from Fulgencio Batista’s military dictatorship in 1959. Then he became a global revolutionary icon inspiring the downtrodden to rise up everywhere, even personally leading rebel warriors in the Congo before being executed doing the same in Bolivia in 1967. The (communist) party line says Che personifies the selfless humanitarian courageously fighting for “social justice.” He’s the Marxists’ martyred Christ figure replete with pictures of his half-naked corpse riddled with bullet holes. And the classic poster of an angry young Guevara has scarred countless college dorm rooms for over 40 years, putting a face on the eternally young rebel for angry adolescents everywhere.

The real Guevara was a reckless bourgeois adrenaline-junkie seeking a place in history as a liberator of the oppressed. But this fanatic’s vehicle of “liberation” was Stalinism, named for Soviet dictator Josef Stalin, murderer of well over 20 million of his own people. As one of Castro’s top lieutenants, Che helped steer Cuba’s revolutionary regime in a radically repressive direction. Soon after overthrowing Batista, Guevara choreographed the executions of hundreds of Batista officials without any fair trials. He thought nothing of summarily executing even fellow guerrillas suspected of disloyalty and shot one himself with no due process.

Che was a purist political fanatic who saw everything in stark black and white. Therefore he vociferously opposed freedoms of religion, speech, press, assembly, protest, or any other rights not completely consistent with his North Korean-style communism. How many rock music-loving teens sporting Guevara t-shirts today know their hero supported Cuba’s 1960s’ repression of the genre? How many homosexual fans know he had gays jailed?

Did the Obama volunteers in that Texas campaign headquarters with Che’s poster on the wall know that Guevara fervently opposed any free elections? How “progressive” is that?

How socially just was it that Che was enraged when the Russians blinked during the 1962 Cuban missile crisis and withdrew their nuclear missiles from the island, thus averting a nuclear war? Guevara was such a zealous ideologue that he relished the specter of millions of Cuban lives sacrificed on the altar of communism, declaring Cuba “a people ready to sacrifice itself to nuclear arms, that its ashes might serve as a basis for new societies.” Some humanitarian.

Che was a narcissist who boasted that “I have no house, wife, children, parents, or brothers; my friends are friends as long as they think like me, politically.” This is a role model for today’s “post-political” voters claiming we should get beyond partisanship?

Adding to the ridiculousness of the Che cult is that he was virtually a complete failure. As a medical doctor, he never even had a practice. When put in charge of the Cuban economy at the start of Castro’s government, his uncompromising communist diktats ran it completely into the ground, from which it never recovered. Humiliated, and also angry that Castro wasn’t fomenting enough revolution abroad, he then tried to lead such quixotic adventures in Argentina, the Congo, and Bolivia, failing miserably everywhere while sacrificing the lives of scores of naïve, idealistic young followers as deluded pawns in the service of his personality cult.

Another reason he fled Cuba in the mid-1960s was the complete mess he made of his private life. Though he preached sexual purity to his colleagues, he was a shameless adulterer who abandoned two wives and many children, some legitimate, others not. As a grandson put it, “he was never home.” The public Che who supposedly had such great love for humanity privately couldn’t stand most folks.

Guevara’s promiscuous communist adventurism was the pattern of a terminal adolescent running away from his problems to get caught up in some heroic crusade against his eternal bete noir, “Yankee imperialism.”

So why do so many well-heeled American libs still admire this thug? Are the young simply ignorant of his execrable record and drawn to the image of the dashing young rebel? Do older progressives feel guilt for their free market prosperity, and showing solidarity with Che absolves them? Do hippies-turned-yuppies get nostalgic for their youthful protests and rationalize that the symbolism of Che as a “social reformer” eclipses his actual horrific human rights record? And are some American Guevaraistas truly dangerous leftists who seek to emulate their icon and destroy our free, democratic, capitalist society? Ask that guy wearing the Che t-shirt.


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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #69 on: June 05, 2010, 01:54:16 AM »
The trap of wasting time by responding to the tripe he posts?

But it has a while since a new chew toy showed up, so I don't blame folks for taking a bite.

I keep hoping one will show up and honestly try to debate and not instantly resort to talking points and mockery.
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2010, 06:48:37 AM »
I keep hoping one will show up and honestly try to debate and not instantly resort to talking points and mockery.

   keep dreaming, conservative!      :tongue:
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2010, 06:51:39 AM »
Any rational explanation as to why you hero worship a psychopathic murder?

I can't wait to here you explain your love for this thug.

    > Saw injustice and felt the need to act
    > Helped prove that an armed struggle can succeed with he support of the people
    > Believed in communism( like me) but disliked Stalinism (like me)
    > Deposed a puppet regime
    > Dedicated his whole life, right until the end, to an anti-imperialist cause, and was willing to kill and die for it
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2010, 08:35:16 AM »
   keep dreaming, conservative!      :tongue:

As if we honestly expected you to have a thought of your own you could defend.  Poof--begone, troll.
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« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2010, 08:41:00 AM »
    > Saw injustice and felt the need to act

By creating even greater injustice?  Interesting.

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I think we proved that almost 200 years before your boy.  

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> Believed in communism( like me) but disliked Stalinism (like me)
   

Disliked it?  For a guy who disliked it he sure did follow it and use a lot of the same terror tactics.

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> Deposed a puppet regime
   
You mean like North Korea, Albania, Yugoslavia, Romania, etc., etc., etc?

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> Dedicated his whole life, right until the end, to an anti-imperialist cause, and was willing to kill and die for it

You mean murder for it?  And frankly, wasn't very successful at it--the cause, that is.  He was a very prolific murderer, though.  I'm betting he's spinning at about 10K RPM knowing how much money (i.e., capitalism) is being made off his mug by brain-dead mouth-breathers such as yourself in every Spencers and Hot Topix in the western world.  Funny how you don't see many of those "yutes" wearing those t-shirts in South Florida.  Wonder why?
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Re: I'm the enemy here...
« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2010, 08:49:56 AM »
    > Saw injustice and felt the need to act

And act he did...mass executions in the stadium in Havana....jailing of anyone he and Fidel didn't like.

   
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> Helped prove that an armed struggle can succeed with he support of the people

And the poor people that supported him have paid a price in blood that can never be restored or repaid.

   
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> Believed in communism( like me) but disliked Stalinism (like me)

Yet he engaged in both of them with nothing short of blood lust.

   
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> Deposed a puppet regime

And helped install another one in its place.  Spent the rest of his miserable life trying to do the same thing in the Congo and Central America.
   
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> Dedicated his whole life, right until the end, to an anti-imperialist cause, and was willing to kill and die for it


Anti imperialistic?  WTF do you think he was doing when he was killed in Central America? 

One big difference between you and Ernesto...he died doing what he believed in...you lack the gear to follow in his footsteps.
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