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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2009, 12:49:14 AM »
Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator.  He also graduated top of his class from Harvard.  Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA. 


That's even less, idiot that you are.  And it's so obvious that you're buying the bullshit that hte MSM throws out there on a daily basis, if you think that Obama's background is in any way shape or form any kind of qualification to be leader of the free world.

No, Palin didn't have a whole lot of experience, but she did have SOMETHING, certainly a LOT more than Obama.  And so what if he went to Harvard.  A lot of stupid people have gone to Harvard, and it doesn't make them qualified to be President.  There is nothing wrong with Palin's education.

It's funny and pathetic...ever since Obama won the election, one would think that you people would FINALLY shut up about Palin, but no.  Here you are, continuing with your ridiculous lies.

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Palin is moron.

No, YOU'RE the moron.   :bird:  College is expensive, and she had a family to feed, so that's why she went to six different colleges.  My mother's been in college nearly as long as I've been alive, and why is that?  Because she had to work in order to feed me and my sisters.  So **** you and the horse you rode in on.  I'd be amazed if a feeble-minded asswipe like you managed to get into college, never mind graduating with a degree.

And yes, we know the ****tard with the big ears is President of this nation, no need to ****ing highlight it all over the place.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2009, 01:28:51 AM »
Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping.  If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name.  Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.



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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2009, 01:35:39 AM »
She sounds like she got her definition of 'conservative' from the back of a cereal box if she thinks McCain would have gotten elected by choosing another moderate/liberal Republican for VP.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2009, 01:40:32 AM »
the timer has started. :-)

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2009, 06:54:31 AM »
the timer has started. :-)
Let her stay.

She hasn't said anything of substance just the ol' "Palin is stupid" and "Bush is a war criminal".

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2009, 07:44:46 AM »
"He also graduated top of his class from Harvard."

When did Obama release his transcript and where can I see it?
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2009, 07:58:03 AM »
Palin is moron. She attended SIX different colleges in five years. She had a BA in 'communications'  ::) and yet was never on a single school paper.  A decade ago she was on the city council in some backwater town, whereas at that time President Obama had already served 2 years in state government in a state with the third largest US city and a large rural population.  Palin is just as crocked as any other pol. Taking the money for the bridge to nowhere, never giving in back and touting THAT as an achievement.  She sells her plane on Ebay for a loss and this is who you want running the country in our economic crisis should McCain have died (and at his age, that is what made her such an issue.)
 
As for you laughable conspiracy theories about President Obama's academic career, one doesn't graduate with doctorate from Harvard magna cum laude and obtain the position of president of the Harvard Law Review with questionable marks. He was also a lawyer and university professor for a decade before his political career, Palin was a sports reporter. 
 
If you want to say the dozen people I know (all of whom voted for Bush even in 2004,) all of whom voted for Obama now (and everyone of which did so because Palin scared the shit out of them) are not 'real republicans,' then I say to you that THEY are  in fact the real republicans, you Palin supporters are the religious zealots that have usurped their party. 
 
So back to the OP, you gained not a single vote with your fundamentalist VP choice but lost uncountable votes of the fiscal conservatives and moderates that would have voted for McCain if he had made a better choice.  Also the campaign was divisive.  Now FYI, I have never in my life identified myself as a democrat (although that is how I tend to vote) I most certainly find fault with that party as well for being spineless cowards, which I suppose is one thing we can all agree on.  :-)
 
 

I care little what his grades were.   I want to know what classes he took.   I already addressed Sarah Palin's qualifications. 

You have a very little understanding of politics if you think that McCain would have won with a moderate VP pick.    McCain rallied his base by picking Sarah Palin (who is a staunch conservative).    He lost because he is too moderate for the far right, so they stayed home in protest.

The dozen or so folks you claim voted for GWB and now voted for Obama are not Republicans by any stretch of the imagination.   A Republican would never vote for a candidate whose platform was steeped in socialism.   

Now, the la-la-loon Ron Paul Libertarians are quite another story altogether, but who really wants to go there?


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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2009, 08:06:00 AM »
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Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping.  If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name.  Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.

Hey you stupid scrunt,

Try being called a fascist baby-killer for 5 years and having jihadists on one side and the ACLU protecting those jihadists on the other side.

FOAD you thin-skinned little shit. I hope your a slut so at least you'll be of some use to somebody somewhere.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2009, 08:31:18 AM »
I skipped over a few troll-infested pages added since my last check-in.  Palin was the only reason it got close to 50%, McCain sucked as a candidate, and the drumbeat of shrieking fear-mongering about the economy certainly played into the Dems hands and tipped the balance in their favor in the last month leading into the vote. 

In my prejudiced view, the reasons McCain sucked as a candidate are these:

For the moderates, the MSM was very persuasive about how cool Obama was and no radical at all.  Of course the Leftard radicals correctly regarded this as all a ruse and it had no negative impact whatsoever on their base...their base regarded him as sufficiently radical that no nuttier candidates were able to get any traction at all with the Leftard nutcases, which says it all on that front.  The only thing to difference the two of them to the moderates was the fact that the MSM obviously thought Obama seemed a whole lot cooler.

One of the main reasons to vote for John McCain was to vote against Obama, and to a some extent Biden.  McCain was intent on appearing a gentleman and statesman, apparently far more important to him than actually winning the election (And this really pisses me off, if he wanted to carry his party's banner and represent its core values and its people, it was up to him to place winning first and actually fight for it).  McCain did a dismal job of capitalizing on the 'Against Obama' line and sabotaged those who tried to support him on this at several points, resulting in a schizo and broadly-ineffective effort.  Aside from his stupid and unshared-by-the-opposition view of what was a fair fight, he was horrifyingly ineffective at calling the Obama campaign on what were outrageous lies about tax promises, or pointing out that all the backdoor attacks on his age applied equally-if-not-more to the often-befuddled Joe Biden.

McCain represented a party that has far too many Rockefeller Republicans in charge, a group with which he is entirely comfortable, really being one of them.  This faction of RINOs and Beltway Republicans are a tiny part of the actual voting base of the GOP, however, and when they are allowed to set the agenda you can pretty well bet that the actual Red State voters are going to see damned little reason to leave the house on election day except, of course, for 'Voting against the other guy' which as noted McCain already threw away.  My personal opinion is that there was intentional sabotage of Palin by some of these pukes because they would rather have Democrats win in 2012 charge than see an actual non-RINO Republican win.       

 
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #84 on: January 25, 2009, 09:13:49 AM »
the timer has started. :-)
PLEASE let her stay!!!
I want to see how deep this rabbit hole of numbnuttery goes!!!

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2009, 09:26:14 AM »
Palin is moron. She attended SIX different colleges in five years. She had a BA in 'communications'  ::) and yet was never on a single school paper.  A decade ago she was on the city council in some backwater town, whereas at that time President Obama had already served 2 years in state government in a state with the third largest US city and a large rural population.  Palin is just as crocked as any other pol. Taking the money for the bridge to nowhere, never giving in back and touting THAT as an achievement.  She sells her plane on Ebay for a loss and this is who you want running the country in our economic crisis should McCain have died (and at his age, that is what made her such an issue.)

How much experience do you have in running anything other than your mouth?

What is your degree in?  Or did you even graduate college?
 
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As for you laughable conspiracy theories about President Obama's academic career, one doesn't graduate with doctorate from Harvard magna cum laude and obtain the position of president of the Harvard Law Review with questionable marks. He was also a lawyer and university professor for a decade before his political career, Palin was a sports reporter. 

Yet no one can remember him being there.

And as for your crack about Governor Palin...at least...unlike you...she's gainfully employed.
 
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If you want to say the dozen people I know (all of whom voted for Bush even in 2004,) all of whom voted for Obama now (and everyone of which did so because Palin scared the shit out of them) are not 'real republicans,' then I say to you that THEY are  in fact the real republicans, you Palin supporters are the religious zealots that have usurped their party. 


Yes I know that in your head your imaginary friends seem real and call themselves Republicans.

However here in reality...
 
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So back to the OP, you gained not a single vote with your fundamentalist VP choice but lost uncountable votes of the fiscal conservatives and moderates that would have voted for McCain if he had made a better choice.  Also the campaign was divisive.  Now FYI, I have never in my life identified myself as a democrat (although that is how I tend to vote) I most certainly find fault with that party as well for being spineless cowards, which I suppose is one thing we can all agree on.  :-)

Governor Sarah palin is the ONLY reason Sen. McCain got as many votes as he did.

So is this the BEST you've got SuperCrash?  Just repeating mindless drivel you've cut and pasted from Kos/HuffPo/Du?

You sound more like someone who cut and pasted the bullsh*t from last nights transcript of Countdown to No Ratings than someone who actualy has a functioning brain.

Trying coming up with something that you thought of...not what someone else told you to say.
 
 
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #86 on: January 25, 2009, 09:30:30 AM »
Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping. 

No what we're interested in is INTELLIGENT conversation.

We even have a Democrat that is a Mod here.

She is everything you're not.



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If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name.  Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.

This isn't an echo chamber like your original home over at the DUmp.

It says a lot about how little actual intellectual prowess that you posses that an echo chamber place like that wold kick you out.

Hell you even got booted from LU...nothing says "pathetic looser" like getting booted from a cesspool that champions scumbags like NightOwl and TheRabbi.


You probably won't get banned here unless you violate a forum rule like you did with your last screen name.

Thankfully for you ...stupidity isn't a bannable offense.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #87 on: January 25, 2009, 10:34:13 AM »
Hey you stupid scrunt,

Try being called a fascist baby-killer for 5 years and having jihadists on one side and the ACLU protecting those jihadists on the other side.

FOAD you thin-skinned little shit. I hope your a slut so at least you'll be of some use to somebody somewhere.

Only to somebody desperate.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2009, 12:37:42 PM »
Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping.  If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name.  Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.



You're so cute in your ignorance.  I voted for Obama.  I posted my opinion in this thread about the election.  You don't see anyone taking me to task over it. 

I'm friends with plenty of republicans in RL (hell, I do live in Texas) and not one true conservative voted for Obama b/c of Palin.  No true conservative would have voted for Obama anyways. 

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2009, 12:56:54 PM »
Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping.  If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name.  Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.


Yeah, well your Harvard-educated big-eared ****ing moron is acting more and more like a damn despot to me. Shutting out the media, telling people who they should and should not listen to, since when is it a President's responsibility to dictate shit like this, especially in a free nation? Bush was disparaged on a DAILY basis; this jackass threatens people who talk about his ****ing ears.

BTW, when in the HELL does voting present over 100 f'n times, and being a legislator, trump actual executive experience? ...and yes, she IS college-educated.

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #90 on: January 25, 2009, 01:07:23 PM »
Palin is moron. She attended SIX different colleges in five years. She had a BA in 'communications'  ::) and yet was never on a single school paper.  A decade ago she was on the city council in some backwater town, whereas at that time President Obama had already served 2 years in state government in a state with the third largest US city and a large rural population.  Palin is just as crocked as any other pol. Taking the money for the bridge to nowhere, never giving in back and touting THAT as an achievement.  She sells her plane on Ebay for a loss and this is who you want running the country in our economic crisis should McCain have died (and at his age, that is what made her such an issue.)
 
As for you laughable conspiracy theories about President Obama's academic career, one doesn't graduate with doctorate from Harvard magna cum laude and obtain the position of president of the Harvard Law Review with questionable marks. He was also a lawyer and university professor for a decade before his political career, Palin was a sports reporter. 
 
If you want to say the dozen people I know (all of whom voted for Bush even in 2004,) all of whom voted for Obama now (and everyone of which did so because Palin scared the shit out of them) are not 'real republicans,' then I say to you that THEY are  in fact the real republicans, you Palin supporters are the religious zealots that have usurped their party. 
 
So back to the OP, you gained not a single vote with your fundamentalist VP choice but lost uncountable votes of the fiscal conservatives and moderates that would have voted for McCain if he had made a better choice.  Also the campaign was divisive.  Now FYI, I have never in my life identified myself as a democrat (although that is how I tend to vote) I most certainly find fault with that party as well for being spineless cowards, which I suppose is one thing we can all agree on.  :-)

Palin is moron? Please.

Obama graduated with "doctorate" from Harvard. Yep, Juris Doctor, which used to be LLB, as in Bachelor Letters of Law, translated. It means he got a professional degree, a law degree. It's what EVERY law school in America gives.

And, BTW, given that Obama and Harvard have not released his records, none of us, including the Obama-defending/Palin-bashing respondent, actually know whether he graduated with highest honors, or honors at all. Until he proves it, until she proves it, all we can assume, must assume, is that he did graduate from HLS.

BTW: Should this respondent attempt to work for Uncle Sugar, she would have to present a transcript of her collegiate career, if she had one. Seems only reasonable that the head of all the federal government should be required to do the same.

But, enough, for this tar baby, whatever her name is.

Minds like hers are snapped shut, so tightly that nothing can penetrate its bias, its misogynist, fraidy-cat, jealous-of-Palin, lack-of-proportion mind.

One last thing, though: Do you notice how she and the defenders of Obama always talk about the population of the state in which he was a legislator, and how they put down Wassila as a "back water" town?

They forget, of course, politician Bill Clinton. But, wait, he was a governor, wasn't he of what some might consider -- or even considered back when the Democrat Party actually vetted its presidential candidates -- a backwater state? I mean no offense to Arkansans, mind you -- I live in a state that the Obama-supporting, Palin-bashing respondent would definitely call "backwater" and in a town she'd call the same -- but I do recall that there was concern among the Democrat powers-that-were when he surfaced about that.

Regardless, I guess now, though, if you're in the lower 48, that's OK.

And, best I remember, tiny Delaware from whence Joe Biden comes is only a couple of hundred thousand bigger in population than Alaska. Guess that the nearly 900,000 population in Delaware is the cutoff for being in a state that can qualify someone for national office?

And Palin being commander of the Alaska National Guard? Negotiating with Canada on that trans-Canada pipeline nd succeeding in getting that $40-billion-or-so largest infrastructure project in North America? Getting the petroleum-refining-and-marketing companies to yield to her demands?

Yes, Obama voting present in the Illinois legislator and advancing the death of unborn and just-born children is the equivalent--if you're a close-minded Democrat, liberal and leftist who cannot find any other thing, any other experience about which to advance for Obama's qualifications.

Face it: Miss Whatever's constipated intellectually, and neither heaven or earth will unplug those obstructed mental and emotional feces.

Too bad. Passion like hers could be used to such good, unlike its waste now.

Oops. One more thing: Why do the Democrats, liberals and lefists, men and women alike -- and it does seem to be more prevalent amongst those who identify, through insinuation or not, of being urbanites or suburbanites -- fear Sarah Palin so?

Why did they make such a ruckus about her on the ticket, when McCain was the presidential candidate?

They didn't even have the wherewithal to know against whom they were running, it appeared.

And they expect sane people to believe them or their political philosophy?
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #91 on: January 25, 2009, 01:09:59 PM »

You're so cute in your ignorance.  I voted for Obama.  I posted my opinion in this thread about the election.  You don't see anyone taking me to task over it. 

I'm friends with plenty of republicans in RL (hell, I do live in Texas) and not one true conservative voted for Obama b/c of Palin.  No true conservative would have voted for Obama anyways. 



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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #92 on: January 25, 2009, 01:32:26 PM »
That is because you are a good person Mia....and that is what is most important in life.
Party affilliation doesn`t change that. :)


Well I think the difference is while I may disagree with people on politics on here, I don't treat those differences as ignorance and stupidity from those that believe differently than I.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #93 on: January 25, 2009, 01:51:57 PM »

Well I think the difference is while I may disagree with people on politics on here, I don't treat those differences as ignorance and stupidity from those that believe differently than I.

And unlike some mindless drone in this thread .You are treating us as we have always treaded you. Like you should treat a person. The troll here acts as if they are the only one with the answers.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #94 on: January 25, 2009, 01:58:23 PM »
And unlike some mindless drone in this thread .You are treating us as we have always treaded you. Like you should treat a person. The troll here acts as if they are the only one with the answers.

There's a respect factor and the fact that I don't view people that disagree with me as the "enemy."  It's better to understand why people disagree with you than to just shout them down.  If you're always closed to different viewpoints, you'll never grow as a person. 
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #95 on: January 25, 2009, 02:00:39 PM »
There's a respect factor and the fact that I don't view people that disagree with me as the "enemy."  It's better to understand why people disagree with you than to just shout them down.  If you're always closed to different viewpoints, you'll never grow as a person. 

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #96 on: January 25, 2009, 02:03:32 PM »
You've never met a Paulbot have you?

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #97 on: January 25, 2009, 02:04:01 PM »
You've never met a Paulbot have you?

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #98 on: January 25, 2009, 02:05:08 PM »
Oh, trust me--there's a level of depravity to Paulbots that frankly scared me.  Just ask formerlurker, Red, or Scoobs.  One of them who didn't like me or my opinions called my HR department claiming I was stalking/harassing her.

Not the police.  Not the courts.  Not the board moderators.  MY ****ING HR.  I could have easily been fired.  As it was, I got a good talking to and a letter in my file.  She got banned from the board. 

I remember that incident -- you should have sued her.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #99 on: January 25, 2009, 02:06:20 PM »
Oh, I've seen them, I just ignore them.  :)
Proof that not all points of view are necessarily "good."

Or "grounded in reality."

Or "not just plain nucking futs."
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