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Offline john c calhoun

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2009, 12:39:40 PM »
And what he continually forgets to tell others is a certain post I remember him making way back when where he and his family petitioned their local state representatives to keep a large chain Pharmacy retailer out of their area because he claimed it would hurt his business.  So he constantly claims he's free market, all for competition, and doesn't want gov't interference, but by his own admission he called upon the gov't to stop another business from going up against him.   :loser:

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you've got that bassackwards USA....

it was the chain pharmacy that used the state boards/zoning laws to try & keep us out...

if you're referring to the case where we had to go to the state house & lobby to keep RD's from MONOPOLIZING the practice of nutritional advice by lobbying govenrment to pass laws giving them exclusive rights to do so, to the point that not even our pharmacists or Dr's could give nutriotional advice, only an RD....

yeah, we fought that & won ...  so did the AMA, ADA, AVA & jsut about everyone other than RD's ...

unlike the pathetic state of Ohio, whose economy is akin to bangladesh .... they passed the RD's monopoly protection in the early 90's  & it wasn't overturned till a few years ago after the state got so fat, ugly & poor, they had no choice ...

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2009, 12:41:38 PM »
Yes....
The sky WAS falling...
I had record profits in 07 and 08 as well but I saw the signs of trouble in early 2008.
The signs came in two new financial lending terms....."Liar loan" and "Gap insurance"....



I agree with that...

but,    'the governments' & medias reaction was waaaay over the top ...

everything is twice as bad as it should be, thanks to overreaction & bad socialism  from the top  ie: bailout or die)

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2009, 12:47:03 PM »
you've got that bassackwards USA....

it was the chain pharmacy that used the state boards/zoning laws to try & keep us out...

Nope, that's that not you said.  In fact, this is the first time you've ever tried to use this twist on what happened.

The way I stated it was the exact way you told it.  I jumped your case when you told it because it showed clearly what a hypocrite you are, and as long as I'm around I'll continue to remind you and others of exactly what you did say.

The more I consider your explanation, the funnier it gets.  I've lost count of how many times I've read about Wal-Mart using the state boards/zoning laws to try and keep Mom & Pop's Toothpaste World from moving in down the street.  :whatever:

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2009, 01:20:46 PM »
Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator.  He also graduated top of his class from Harvard.  Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA. 

Oh, dear, you really are naive and mind-washed and -numbed. Seven years voting "Present" and lacking the stones to stand for anything other than killing unborn and just-born children--that qualifies as "experience" for him to be POTUS?

Clearly, you're impressed by b***s*** artists, of which Barack Hussein Obama is at the world-class level. No, wait, given his megalomania, I'd better assert that he is THE best one in the world. Sorry.

His resume remains so tissue-thin that only a fool would use it to wipe certain hindparts in need of cleaning, for fear it would tear so easily.

BTW: Prove that he was at the top of his class at HLS.

Prove that the only reason that he got to HLS was something other than the color of his skin.

Better yet: Show us the transcripts from Columbia University that show his (a) nationalitiy, (b) GPA and (c) classes he took.

His classmates don't even remember him being there. Libertarian Party vice-presidential-nominee and contemporary of Obama at Columbia, if Obama was really there, Wayne Allyn Root -- Class of '83 political science, pre-law Columbia University -- said last September: "I think the most dangerous thing you should know about Barack Obama is that I don't know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever! . . .But nobody white's ever heard of this guy. It's quite amazing. Nobody remembers him. They don't remember him sitting in class."

BTW: While he purportedly was at Columbia, Obama said he was involved in the Black Students Organization. The former vice president of the Black Students Organization, Mark Attiah, has said that he, Attiah, was shocked to even learn that Obama was part of the organization.

Further, it appears that no one from Colubmia's library in the School of International Public Affairs, the building in which Obama would have had most of his classes as a poly-sci major, remembered him.

Even the chairman of the Political Science Department when Obama was an undergraduate, Mark Chalmers, doesn't remember him.

BTW2: While you're at it, get his transcripts from Occidental College, showing the same as I just mentioned from Columbia.

That's right: You can't because he's either hidden them away for the next 75 years or so, or he's destroyed them so no one will find answers to these things.

And, honey, you can trash Sarah Palin all you want.

But all your trash-talking aind ignorance, no matter how often you repeat that, will not change the facts about the superior management and executive experience Sarah Palin possesses, more even that Obama still has. .

You and Obama and the Democrats, liberals and leftists are so scared of her, scared that she actually represents real Americans, that you're beside yourselves with panties-and-shorts-soiling, sleep-disturbing, drives-you-crazy fear.

FWIW: A roundup of the coverup of the creation called Barack Hussein Obama, or Barry Obama, or Barry Soetero, or whatever his name might actually be, includes the following:

  • no medical records released

  • no Occidental records released

  • no Harvard University records released

  • no Columbia records released

  • no original birth certificate released
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2009, 11:35:03 PM »
Palin is moron. She attended SIX different colleges in five years. She had a BA in 'communications'  ::) and yet was never on a single school paper.  A decade ago she was on the city council in some backwater town, whereas at that time President Obama had already served 2 years in state government in a state with the third largest US city and a large rural population.  Palin is just as crocked as any other pol. Taking the money for the bridge to nowhere, never giving in back and touting THAT as an achievement.  She sells her plane on Ebay for a loss and this is who you want running the country in our economic crisis should McCain have died (and at his age, that is what made her such an issue.)
 
As for you laughable conspiracy theories about President Obama's academic career, one doesn't graduate with doctorate from Harvard magna cum laude and obtain the position of president of the Harvard Law Review with questionable marks. He was also a lawyer and university professor for a decade before his political career, Palin was a sports reporter. 
 
If you want to say the dozen people I know (all of whom voted for Bush even in 2004,) all of whom voted for Obama now (and everyone of which did so because Palin scared the shit out of them) are not 'real republicans,' then I say to you that THEY are  in fact the real republicans, you Palin supporters are the religious zealots that have usurped their party. 
 
So back to the OP, you gained not a single vote with your fundamentalist VP choice but lost uncountable votes of the fiscal conservatives and moderates that would have voted for McCain if he had made a better choice.  Also the campaign was divisive.  Now FYI, I have never in my life identified myself as a democrat (although that is how I tend to vote) I most certainly find fault with that party as well for being spineless cowards, which I suppose is one thing we can all agree on.  :-)
 
 
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2009, 11:41:14 PM »
i may have just abused my admin powerz. :-)

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2009, 11:42:08 PM »
After the ronpaul invasion, I am for killing them in the womb.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2009, 11:42:55 PM »
Why did we loose?

mccain.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2009, 11:43:02 PM »
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2009, 11:43:06 PM »
After the ronpaul invasion, I am for killing them in the womb.

don't get carried away.  we are against abortion.

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2009, 11:44:07 PM »
don't get carried away.  we are against abortion.

I am for what will win us the war.

period.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2009, 11:44:57 PM »
Why did we loose?

mccain.

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2009, 11:45:38 PM »
I am for what will win us the war.

period.

abortion won't win us anything.

I like you a lot, dutch, but you are off on a tangent here.

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2009, 11:45:58 PM »
I am for what will win us the war.

period.

Even the intentional killing of unborn innocents?

tsk tsk.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2009, 11:49:27 PM »
Even the intentional killing of unborn innocents?

tsk tsk.

interesting scenario.  a jihadist chick is pregnant, and the israelis blow her to smithereens.

I say it's an unfortunate, but legitimate fact of war.



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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2009, 11:51:22 PM »
Even the intentional killing of unborn innocents?

tsk tsk.

I don't have to kill them. They will.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2009, 11:52:44 PM »
interesting scenario.  a jihadist chick is pregnant, and the israelis blow her to smithereens.

I say it's an unfortunate, but legitimate fact of war.




Hmmm... I've never considered it from that angle.  But you are correct, IMO that would be a legitimate act of war.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2009, 11:56:50 PM »
Hmmm... I've never considered it from that angle.  But you are correct, IMO that would be a legitimate act of war.


but you have unintentionally raised an interesting question.  the unborn, while clearly alive, may stray into dangerous situations due to the unclear thinking of the mother.

I have to think this one through.

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2009, 12:13:00 AM »
Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping.  If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name.  Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.

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« Reply #70 on: January 25, 2009, 12:14:26 AM »
Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping.  If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name.  Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.


Sounds like alot of ronpaul retards we met once. We are just too stupid for you.

You never did answer my questions.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #71 on: January 25, 2009, 12:15:04 AM »
Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping.  If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name.  Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.


Bye bye....
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #72 on: January 25, 2009, 12:17:57 AM »
Bye bye....
yeah, she/he/it was born on it's last legs.

I ****ed with her sign on.  maybe it can't take a hint. :-)

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #73 on: January 25, 2009, 12:19:06 AM »
Clearly your site is not interested in the dialectic and is simply a hang-out for back-slapping.  If you want a forum where every member agrees then you ought to make that know and just have banned me out-right rather than resorting to such juvenile behavior as changing my screen name.  Have fun in your cave of ignorance, I'll keep looking for more intelligent debate elsewhere.


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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2009, 12:22:12 AM »
I think you used too big of words for Mr. Calboon there.  :-)

Saying Hello is using to big of a word for that retard.
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