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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2009, 08:13:02 AM »
1. John McCain campaigned poorly, never truly seeming to have his heart in it.

2. He and the Republicans forgot or never realized they were in a streetfight with adversaries who would and did do and say anything to win.

3. The Republicans did not have their hearts in the race or a clear-enough message.

4. The economy nose-dived in August/September.

5. The advocacy/adversary media -- once known as the news media, then mainstream media -- gave up their claim to the Fourth Estate and because the traitorous, unethical, unprofessional Fifth Column who betrayed the public's trust.

6. McCain and the Republicans did not use Sarah Palin well.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2009, 08:26:12 AM »
Yes she was governor (of a state that who's entire population is not even 1/4 of that of the city of Chicago.)  Before that she was mayor of a town so small it makes my little town look like a thriving metropolitan city.  So no, she did not have enough experience to possibly lead our country.  Now I personally have a myriad of reason to be scared of her, but the lack of experience was the number one objection I heard from republicans.  I'm not saying she single handily lost you the election, you'd of lost anyway but out of all the Republican I know, every single one voted for Obama and she was the #1 reason. 

And I don't get my news from MSM, sorry.

Right. And Bill Clinton really didn't have sex with that woman.

You may not get your news from the advocacy/adversary media, but from wherever it comes, you don't apparently have what it takes to analyze it correctly.

The trolls such as that responder, who fear Sarah Palin's honesty and common sense and popular appeal and genuine real-life experience, lack the intellectual horsepower and honesty to admit that Sarah Palin had more executive experience than Obama, Biden and McCain, even though McCain had been a squardron commander in the USN.

She had it as mayor, but they focus on her being mayor, but not governor. And, for the record, who cares how big the population of the state is?

What bots such as thie responder implies is that there is NO experience that qualifies someone for the presidency, other than lying, deceit, hot air, secrecy, friendliness toward terrorists, socialist/Marxist mentoring and racially divisive theology and politics.

Because that's all that Barack Obama brought to the table--that and being a creation of the cesspool called the Chicago Poitical Machine and his puppeteers here and abroad.

And, no, doofus, she did not cost the Republicans the election.

Grow up and have the testicularity to admit that one principal reason Obama is POTUS is that the advocacy/adversary media was in the bag for Obama, and spent more time counting the hairs on Palin's baby's butt than they did investigating and/or regarding ANYTHING useful about Barack Obama that would've help inform the electorate.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2009, 09:55:15 AM »
Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator.  He also graduated top of his class from Harvard.  Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA. 

 


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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2009, 10:12:56 AM »
Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator.  He also graduated top of his class from Harvard.  Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA. 

 


I wouldn't call being a backbencher in the Illinois Senate (where you DO NOT make executive decisions) and voting present over 140 times "leadership" or "executive experience" of any kind.

Palin at least was IN CHARGE of a town, and then a state. She was a reformer, even going against members of her own party to get stuff done.

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2009, 10:14:55 AM »
John McCain was a poor candidate.  He didn't serve to the base of the republican party and up against Obama failed to swing moderates into his voting block.  Also, the downward turn of the economy got framed as "failed Bush policies" which was then tied to McCain and he never was able to break from that association.

While Palin helped with the conservative base, she didn't help with the moderates.  The people revved up by Palin, weren't going to vote for Obama anyways.  The top of the ticket was too weak, that even the addition of Palin couldn't overcome it. 


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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2009, 10:21:22 AM »
Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator.  He also graduated top of his class from Harvard.  Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA. 

 


Your sources and information on Palin are weak and fallible.  As far as your touting Obama's intelligence as a means of experience is baseless.  Just because someone graduates at the top of their class at some liberal ivy league school does NOT make them a great leader or uniter.  And the past three days have proven that beyond doubt.  

I find it funny that this has turned into a race between palin and obama when that NEVER was the case.  That was a typical liberal excuse and scare tactic.  THe bottom line was it was McCain against Obama and the VP status was a factor but should NOT Have been a reason.  if so then how in the HELL could Obama chant for change when he picked one of the most partisan and unchanging senators to be his Veep. I find it funny that you steep qualifications on intelligence and not on actual experience.  The fact that she has turned Alaska around.  That she has made great strides for some of the biggest challenges and the fact that before she was put in the VP seat she was even touted by the LIBERALS in her own state as the most effective and qualified Governor they had in quite some time.  That state was fraught with corruption and she cleaned it up, even in her own back yard.  And with all of Obama's 7 fabulous years in Ill he couldn't even stay far enough away from the muck that is Blogo and all the corruption that is infected within that state's legislature in ALL departments.  

Seems to me that your fear has more to do with your insecure feelings about a woman with more ability and more leadership than you will ever have.   This lost election had nothing to do with Palin.  It had to do with McCain's inability to keep the base secure and trusting that he would do what would need to be done and the MSM ADMITTED bias toward Obama at burying controversy and keeping him up on that pedestal long enough to get him elected.

This isn't Palin's fault.  If anything she was the ONE shining beacon that we needed to see to redeem our faith in a party which seemed to lose sight of our core standard for far too long.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2009, 10:21:48 AM »
Well, how about this answer then.


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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2009, 10:32:12 AM »
'its the ECONOMY stupid'...

in the words of  the greatest 'politician' of  the 20th century (not a compliment) & the only thing he got right...

the Dems. media & GWB did a GREAT JOB ambushing the pork cutting war hero, john mccain, by COLLAPSING the ECONOMY the month before the election...

that whole bailout stuff was bs and did more to alienate  just about EVERYONE from anything to do with anything republican....

and don't tell me it all magically 'came to a head'  1 month before the election....

mccains only mistake was not being as good of a bs artist as obama, but that wouldn't hve really mattered if he wasn't always on the defensive, because the media & GWB put him there ...

and I don't just mean the liberal media... in fact, Rush limbaugh & glenn beck did more to damage john mccain than the liberal media  did... (recall  mccains soundbite that obama used against him 1000 times per day : " I voted w/ GWB 90% of the time" ....

well that soundbite mccain gave obama, was a response to ATTACKS being made by rush limbaugh & the neo commie media that was saying mccain was too 'liberal' to be the GOP nominee...(even though mccain is prolife & the two pussies the neo cons wanted in are pro abortion YANKEE liberal dungholes : ie rudy & mitt)

 hiring carl rove did mccain in too... mccains  other big msitake was hiring carl rove, who gave him incredibly bad advice & also tied him directly to what got obama elected, & that is "mccain is bush" ....

mccain was ahead in the polls until the BAILOUT  ...remember that ...


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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2009, 10:41:32 AM »
Yes she was governor (of a state that who's entire population is not even 1/4 of that of the city of Chicago.)  Before that she was mayor of a town so small it makes my little town look like a thriving metropolitan city.  So no, she did not have enough experience to possibly lead our country.  Now I personally have a myriad of reason to be scared of her, but the lack of experience was the number one objection I heard from republicans.  I'm not saying she single handily lost you the election,

Palin is the only reason McCain didn't lost any worse than he did.

Since you think that Obama had all of this grat vast wealth of experience prior to becoming President...perhaps you can point out or link to one single piece of legislation in either the State Senate or here in D.C. that he wrote.

Can you?


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you'd of lost anyway but out of all the Republican I know, every single one voted for Obama and she was the #1 reason. 

They you obviously don't know any Republicans and made that up out of whole cloth.

 

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No SuperCrash you get it from far worse places like Kos Du and Huff Po.

And it goes a long way to explaining why you are the moronic Libtard yo are.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2009, 11:00:09 AM »
'its the ECONOMY stupid'...

in the words of  the greatest 'politician' of  the 20th century (not a compliment) & the only thing he got right...

the Dems. media & GWB did a GREAT JOB ambushing the pork cutting war hero, john mccain, by COLLAPSING the ECONOMY the month before the election...



There you go talking out of your ass again. The economy started tanking in 2006.  What happened in 2006?  Anyone?  Anyone?
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2009, 11:02:40 AM »
I posted record sales in 2007 & the first 3  quarters of 2008, as did alot of Biz in hte US...

only liberal idiots think the economy was tanking ...

the economy was fundamentally sound...

tanking is what occured  when GWB got onto national TV 1 month before the election  & asked for a trillion dollars to prevent worldwide global depression ...

the sky is falling !!! ...

bullshiite ...

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2009, 11:07:05 AM »
Obama had seven years of experience in the Illinois legislator before he became a senator.  He also graduated top of his class from Harvard.  Palin was barely qualified to be vice president of the PTA. 

 

The love you have for your new pres is obviously strong...
I hope it will be enough to get you through the next four years of agony while the world watches the rookie stumble through his presidency. He doesn't have a clue what the hell he is doing and that inexperience will become more evident as the left consumes more and more control of the decisions he makes. The economy and national security is way beyond his paygrade and his decisions show as much.
 At first I had hoped perhaps he would grasp the gravity of his position in history and become a leader for America, but the last few days have proved to me that he is not capable of independent thought. Gitmo is a huge mistake...while symbolic and benign in the war against terrorism, it sends the message that he agrees with appeasement...as does the direction he is going with the economy. Bailout is not the answer, both of these decisions are simply a way of avoiding hard unpopular choices.

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2009, 11:22:31 AM »
There you go talking out of your ass again. The economy started tanking in 2006.  What happened in 2006?  Anyone?  Anyone?

The decline of the housing market in 2006 facilitated the loosening of the credit market and as a result gave people more access to credit for crap they didnt need. This created an unsustainable bubble in the mortgage and housing market which bled over to general retail. The economy reached unsustainable growth levels by fall of  2007. By spring of 2008 energy prices were rising at such a pace that most cash strapped consumers could not keep up with the acumulated debt and the decline began.By the end of summer with all access to credit depleted the colapse began. as for the 2 years of properity? Its kinda like when a car runs outa gas...it runs the fastest just before the tank is empty.

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2009, 11:24:55 AM »
The decline of the housing market in 2006 facilitated the loosening of the credit market and as a result gave people more access to credit for crap they didnt need. This created an unsustainable bubble in the mortgage and housing market which bled over to general retail. The economy reached unsustainable growth levels by fall of  2007. By spring of 2008 energy prices were rising at such a pace that most cash strapped consumers could not keep up with the acumulated debt and the decline began.By the end of summer with all access to credit depleted the colapse began. as for the 2 years of properity? Its kinda like when a car runs outa gas...it runs the fastest just before the tank is empty.

I think you used too big of words for Mr. Calboon there.  :-)
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2009, 11:30:20 AM »
I think you used too big of words for Mr. Calboon there.  :-)
Sorry....  :(
How bout....
people bought shit they didnt need with money they didnt have... :-)

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2009, 11:38:01 AM »
Sorry....  :(
How bout....
people bought shit they didnt need with money they didnt have... :-)

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I think that might work.  But I'm not sure...if you don't see a response he may need a defibrillator, on second thought we could look at it as a means to prove how the liberal mind can't take on too much truth.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2009, 11:38:28 AM »
"Mr. Calboon".

I like you more every day, Tess.

you caught that?   :-)
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2009, 11:39:24 AM »
Because our nation has started the downturn towards "Idiocracy".
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2009, 11:40:29 AM »
Just a small addition.

You addition completed that perfectly.

 :cheersmate:
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2009, 11:42:10 AM »
I posted record sales in 2007 & the first 3  quarters of 2008, as did alot of Biz in hte US...

only liberal idiots think the economy was tanking ...

the economy was fundamentally sound...

tanking is what occured  when GWB got onto national TV 1 month before the election  & asked for a trillion dollars to prevent worldwide global depression ...

the sky is falling !!! ...

bullshiite ...
Yes....
The sky WAS falling...
I had record profits in 07 and 08 as well but I saw the signs of trouble in early 2008.
The signs came in two new financial lending terms....."Liar loan" and "Gap insurance"....


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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2009, 11:42:58 AM »
I posted record sales in 2007 & the first 3  quarters of 2008, as did alot of Biz in hte US...

only liberal idiots think the economy was tanking ...

the economy was fundamentally sound...

tanking is what occured  when GWB got onto national TV 1 month before the election  & asked for a trillion dollars to prevent worldwide global depression ...

the sky is falling !!! ...

bullshiite ...

Tell us then what your business is.

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2009, 11:54:31 AM »
Tell us then what your business is.

He allegedly runs a drug store somewhere in the wilds of liberal Vermont.....his sales increases are likely the result of selling weed to the old hippies out the back door.......

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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2009, 11:57:51 AM »
Tell us then what your business is.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2009, 12:00:20 PM »
I posted record sales in 2007 & the first 3  quarters of 2008, as did alot of Biz in hte US...

only liberal idiots think the economy was tanking ...

the economy was fundamentally sound...

tanking is what occured  when GWB got onto national TV 1 month before the election  & asked for a trillion dollars to prevent worldwide global depression ...

the sky is falling !!! ...

bullshiite ...

An anecdote mans nothing.  An anecdote from a known bullshit artist is worth even less.  And your very post shows you know nothing of economics.

You need to stop embarrassing yourself.
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Re: Why did we lose this election?
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2009, 12:07:21 PM »
He allegedly runs a drug store somewhere in the wilds of liberal Vermont.....

And what he continually forgets to tell others is a certain post I remember him making way back when where he and his family petitioned their local state representatives to keep a large chain Pharmacy retailer out of their area because he claimed it would hurt his business.  So he constantly claims he's free market, all for competition, and doesn't want gov't interference, but by his own admission he called upon the gov't to stop another business from going up against him.   :loser:

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