Sarah Palin & the M4 (machine gun)

[rich_t]

Don,

Why don't you just admit that you are wrong about the M4 being a MG and move on?

Because I'm not sure it's an M4 ... LOL...

Then you shouldn't have used M4 (machinegun) in the title when you started this thread. 

If you find a link to the video, post it and we will be able to tell you very quickly if it was an M4 or not.

[rich_t]

If this is the video to which you refer, it appears to be an M4 simulator.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn7UzxXv8p4[/youtube]

[Donpeyote]

 You sure it's not a reworked XM 177E2 modded to use in the simulater because M4's are and their newer cousins are needed elsewhere   

[rich_t]

You sure it's not a reworked XM 177E2 modded to use in the simulater because M4's are and their newer cousins are needed elsewhere   

Dude...  It's a simulator.. not a real M-4.

[dutch508]

It's called an EST-2000.

It can be used to simulate all wepaons systems from M9s to MK-19s.

You are ****ing pathetic.

[Airwolf]

You sure it's not a reworked XM 177E2 modded to use in the simulater because M4's are and their newer cousins are needed elsewhere   

Dude...  It's a simulator.. not a real M-4.

FFS the military hasn't used or had XM 177E2s in the inventory for over 20 years. It's an M-4. The barrel alone is the giveaway. An XM-177E2 had an 11 Inch barrel the M-4 has a 14 inch barrel and the profile for it is completly different.

XM-177E2



M-4



Not to mention the upper recievers are different.

[NHSparky]

Dayum...I'm Navy and even I knew that.  Lay down, Don...just stay down.

[Donpeyote]

Dayum...I'm Navy and even I knew that.  Lay down, Don...just stay down.

  Two Classroom days ,a Dry fire day and one or two days with a .22 conversion at the range and you knew that ? (I'm really impressed)

[Airwolf]

Dayum...I'm Navy and even I knew that.  Lay down, Don...just stay down.

It's impossible. Teh stupid has a death grip on what's left of the two brain cells he shares with the cat next door.

[dutch508]

He's an idiot.
He insults soldiers.
He's tip-toe'd around numerous threads spouting hate rants.


Why is he still here?

[Rebel]

He's an idiot.
He insults soldiers.
He's tip-toe'd around numerous threads spouting hate rants.


Why is he still here?

I haven't seen him insult soldiers, Major.

[dutch508]

He's an idiot.
He insults soldiers.
He's tip-toe'd around numerous threads spouting hate rants.


Why is he still here?

I haven't seen him insult soldiers, Major.

Then you are blind.

They let 5ft 6 148 lb. guys go to the Sand box  (They must be Desperate) Whats next Active Gang Bangers from central America via Akron Ohio ?

 Two Classroom days ,a Dry fire day and one or two days with a .22 conversion at the range and you knew that ? (I'm really impressed)

Dont let it go ,Chew on it and swallow it there Hero ...

[TheSarge]

Ahhh yes...it's finally happening.

Don's is letting his inner ****-tard loose on CC.


Watch your inbox folks...next he'll start threatening you like he did VetWife at TOS.


Dipshit owes Schade an apology...

[Donpeyote]

Ahhh yes...it's finally happening.

Don's is letting his inner ****-tard loose on CC.


Watch your inbox folks...next he'll start threatening you like he did VetWife at TOS.


Dipshit owes Schade an apology...

She warned me about you guys  and Vetwife can get F****D  It's always know it all macho men who BECOME Snarky and angry when other posters get stoopid ... and it's the Internet so if someone thinks a Percieved hero status insulates them from Retorts they need to think about it more often ?

[rich_t]

Ahhh yes...it's finally happening.

Don's is letting his inner ****-tard loose on CC.


Watch your inbox folks...next he'll start threatening you like he did VetWife at TOS.


Dipshit owes Schade an apology...

She warned me about you guys  and Vetwife can get F****D  It's always know it all macho men who BECOME Snarky and angry when other posters get stoopid ... and it's the Internet so if someone thinks a Percieved hero status insulates them from Retorts they need to think about it more often ?

We've already established that you don't know jack shit about the M-4 not being a MG, or at least lack the integrity to admit it when you are wrong at a minimum. 

Don't get pissed off when you get corrected by folks that know more about an issue than you do.

It shows a lack of maturity when you do.

[NHSparky]

Dayum...I'm Navy and even I knew that.  Lay down, Don...just stay down.

  Two Classroom days ,a Dry fire day and one or two days with a .22 conversion at the range and you knew that ? (I'm really impressed)

That was Boot Camp, Scooter.  Try going to Shipboard Defensive School sometime.  Hell, the TM's on my first boat managed to get a thump gun for the Small Arms Locker.

And FWIW, we had mostly M16A2's, .45's/9mm's, and 12-gauges, but we got to play with other stuff too.

[TheSarge]

 She warned me about you guys  and Vetwife can get F****D  It's always know it all macho men who BECOME Snarky and angry when other posters get stoopid ... and it's the Internet so if someone thinks a Percieved hero status insulates them from Retorts they need to think about it more often ?

We already knew about you jackass.

Check the screen name.  Somewhere in your drug addled mind does it ring a bell from ConservativeUnderground?

You threatened a very nice lady you ****stick.  Insinuated you were gonna SHOOT HER.

You're lucky someone didn't take that crap to the cops.

We decided to give you the benefit of the doubt about your past troll behavior.

And true to form you proved us right.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Don, I hate to break it to you, but an M-4 isn't a "Machine Gun". 

It's Selective fire and it shoots a Rifle round (So that puts it out of the Machine Pistol category) and if the Marines use them in Iraq and Afghanistan it's Machine Gun enough for me)

...and you would be wrong. A .50 Cal is a machine gun. An M-240 is a machine gun. An M-4 or M-16 is not.

Yeah, get caught holding one with no machinegun paperwork at your home, and then try that argument with the ATFE.  Let me know how it works for ya.

 

[Donpeyote]

 She warned me about you guys  and Vetwife can get F****D  It's always know it all macho men who BECOME Snarky and angry when other posters get stoopid ... and it's the Internet so if someone thinks a Percieved hero status insulates them from Retorts they need to think about it more often ?

We already knew about you jackass.

Check the screen name.  Somewhere in your drug addled mind does it ring a bell from ConservativeUnderground?

You threatened a very nice lady you ****stick.  Insinuated you were gonna SHOOT HER.

You're lucky someone didn't take that crap to the cops.

We decided to give you the benefit of the doubt about your past troll behavior.

And true to form you proved us right.

I did not threaten to shoot her it was her Husband !(She could not fight her own interwebz battle so she got her husband all in a Rile and he said he was catching a Plane to Chico and driving up to Oak Run to "Get Me" so naturally I said"Come  on in"  my door will be open,  if you know what that means I dont' threaten to shoot women ,just their Husbands who come off as "Real Killers" .... Post the transcript Troll 

[Rebel]

Yeah, get caught holding one with no machinegun paperwork at your home, and then try that argument with the ATFE.  Let me know how it works for ya.

 

It's not illegal to own a Carb 15 or an AR-15 SP1. Or was this directed at me?

[Donpeyote]

 A selective fire M4 WILL GET ANYONE WITHOUT NFA up to date permit and current liscense fees paid up a Felony (And in Ca. an AR 15 with PG & Detachable mags withot Ca. AW PAPERWORK WILL GET YOU A Misdomeaner and confiscation... 

[Donpeyote]

Yeah, get caught holding one with no machinegun paperwork at your home, and then try that argument with the ATFE.  Let me know how it works for ya.

 

It's not illegal to own a Carb 15 or an AR-15 SP1. Or was this directed at me?

Carb 15 ? I drank one of those in a Chicago health food store once !

[Rebel]

A selective fire M4 WILL GET ANYONE WITHOUT NFA up to date permit and current liscense fees paid up a Felony (And in Ca. an AR 15 with PG & Detachable mags withot Ca. AW PAPERWORK WILL GET YOU A Misdomeaner and confiscation... 

Well, a CARB 15, I.e.,

http://www.impactguns.com/store/855756001012.html

is perfectly legal in MISSISSIPPI and GEORGIA. Don't really give a rat's ass what it is in Communist United States. I'll never live there anyway.

[Donpeyote]

 THE NFA applies to all States & territories (Including the Confederacy)

[DumbAss Tanker]

Yeah, get caught holding one with no machinegun paperwork at your home, and then try that argument with the ATFE.  Let me know how it works for ya.

 

It's not illegal to own a Carb 15 or an AR-15 SP1. Or was this directed at me?

Rebel, it was directed at your comment about the M4 and M16 not being machineguns, which was in the quote box in my post, and which made no referense whatsoever to AR 15 variants or the other toys discussed down the thread.  The military nomenclature doesn't really mean Jack if they are defined as machineguns by law and you get caught with one that has no papers, the Federal District Judge is going to focus on whether it quacks like a duck, not whether it answers to "Duck" for a name.