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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on January 26, 2008, 05:33:25 PM
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Ancient Romans in Texas?
Science Frontiers
ONLINE
No. 90: Nov-Dec 1993
If one searches long enough and hard enough, one can discover hints that just about any ancient culture you care to name set foot in the New World well before the Vikings and Columbus. Old coins, inscriptions, language concordances, and the like are taken by many as proofs that Egyptians visited Oklahoma, the Chinese moored along the Pacific coast, the Celts toured New England, and so on. Now, according to Professor V. Belfiglio, the ancient Romans had Texas on their itineraries.
Belfiglio's evidence is fourfold, and so are mainstream criticisms:
Roman coins found in Texas. The most convincing example came from the bottom of an Indian mound at Round Rock. This mound is dated at approximately 800 AD. Skeptics suppose that the coin was dropped on top of the mound in recent times and was carried to the bottom by rodents and tree roots. Hmmm!
The remains of a shipwreck. Circa 1886, the wreck of an unusual ship was found in Galveston Bay. Belfiglio says this ship's construction is typically Roman. Nautical experts doubt this. but they will admit that real Roman craft were perfectly capable of sailing to Texas.
The remains of an ancient bridge. Also in Galveston Bay, the timbers of an old bridge were found under 15 feet of sediment. A similar divergence of opinion prevails here.
Language concordances. Belfiglio has pointed out many similarities between Latin and a dialect of the now-extinct Karankawas tribe. No comment here from the language experts.
Link (http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf090/sf090a02.htm)
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I know the Romans did go to South America. Same with the Egyptians. The Kickapoo had Roman and Greek coins in the possession when Europeans encountered them. The Kickapoo were known for traveling a lot and encountering different people.
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Yeah, the Romans were here. We had their wimmen and sent the mangirls packing. :-)
KC
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I don't know what is so hard to believe. Europe and North America are not that far apart. Besides, everyone makes it to Texas eventually.
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I don't know what is so hard to believe. Europe and North America are not that far apart. Besides, everyone makes it to Texas eventually.
Where they promptly die from boredom, homicide or the Chair.
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Texas is anything but boring. It has everything.
The homicide rate is lower than other states with 20 million people.
Because if you kill a Texan, Texas may kill you.
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Texas is anything but boring. It has everything.
The homicide rate is lower than other states with 20 million people.
Because if you kill a Texan, Texas may kill you.
The latter is quite true. But when I was in Texas there was nothing to do and nothing to see. It wasn't as bad as Kansas City but it was pretty boring.
I have spent about 2-1/2 years in the DFW area.
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I don't know what is so hard to believe. Europe and North America are not that far apart. Besides, everyone makes it to Texas eventually.
Where they promptly die from boredom, homicide or the Chair.
Yo Biotch! Who pulled your chain?! :censored: :bird: :-)
KC
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Texas is anything but boring. It has everything.
The homicide rate is lower than other states with 20 million people.
Because if you kill a Texan, Texas may kill you.
Yes, and we kill at a record pace! Tho not quite as quickly as I would like.
KC
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Texas is anything but boring. It has everything.
The homicide rate is lower than other states with 20 million people.
Because if you kill a Texan, Texas may kill you.
The latter is quite true. But when I was in Texas there was nothing to do and nothing to see. It wasn't as bad as Kansas City but it was pretty boring.
I have spent about 2-1/2 years in the DFW area.
How sad for you. The fifth largest metropolitan area in the nation and you couldn't find anything to do. I can't imagine what it must take to amuse you.
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Texas is anything but boring. It has everything.
The homicide rate is lower than other states with 20 million people.
Because if you kill a Texan, Texas may kill you.
The latter is quite true. But when I was in Texas there was nothing to do and nothing to see. It wasn't as bad as Kansas City but it was pretty boring.
I have spent about 2-1/2 years in the DFW area.
*Ahem*
(http://www.visitbigbend.com/images/10000194.jpg)
(http://www.taad.org/images/bluebonnet%20field%20at%20dusk%20(credit=Larry%20Urqhart)_med.jpg)
(http://images.fotosearch.com/bigcomps/UNZ/UNZ256/u13625324.jpg)
(http://pw1.netcom.com/~wandaron/east2.jpg)
(http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/tx/TXHUNechair04b.jpg)
I rest my case.
KC
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Well, wasn't none of that near Dallas.
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Well, wasn't none of that near Dallas.
*Ahem AGAIN*
(http://www.watermelon-kid.com/dallas-sights/images/photos/downtown/misc/downtown1.jpg) Dallas
(http://www.watermelon-kid.com/dallas-sights/images/photos/sf/sf3.jpg) Dallas
(http://www.watermelon-kid.com/dallas-sights/images/photos/downtown/artwork/artwork1.jpg) Dallas
(http://www.westexmusichof.com/images/free-cd-offer.gif) Dallas
(http://www.billybobstexas.com/images/small-nav-2.jpg) Dallas
Want more?
KC
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Oh hell! What am I thinking.....I forgot one of the best ones!!!!!!!!!
(http://www.hartransom.org/Hart_Ransom/7_wonders/7%20Wonders_Varni/images/roman_coliseum.jpg)
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
KC
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That pretty much sums up the Stockyards. Seen it once, you've seen it forever.
And Billy Bobs was just OK.
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Oh hell! What am I thinking.....I forgot one of the best ones!!!!!!!!!
(http://www.tqnyc.org/NYC052265/gallery_files/image011.jpg)
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
KC
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6954/wtbxdx3.jpg)
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(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6954/wtbxdx3.jpg)
HA HA HA HA HA!!
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It sounds more like he was in Huntsville and couldn't see much from his cell window. :-)
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Actually, this is quite possible, even probable.
Imagine one is in Rome, circa 100 B.C., and hires onto a boat carrying something to, say, present-day Portugal.
Once past the Straits of Gibraltar, things get messed up; perhaps a storm, perhaps an incompetent navigator, and one is way out in the deep deep blue Atlantic. Many on board die of injury or starvation or murder, but some still cling onto life.
Then some months later, one beaches on Texas.
One is Roman, remember, and all this is new.
One manages to survive somehow, and to leave traces of his existence.
Such things probably happened thousands of times, probably 99%+ of them evaporating in the mists of history (the boat sunk, or all aboard died of thirst and starvation, usually), but enough times that surely in two or three or four or more instances, someone survived, but lived out his life (whether a few days or a few weeks or a few months or a few years) having absolutely no idea where he was, and how to get back home.
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As I see it, this means two things:
1. All the signage in the state will have to be changed to show the correct spelling: TEXUS.
2. It means Texus really IS part of "Latin America."
:rotf:
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As I see it, this means two things:
1. All the signage in the state will have to be changed to show the correct spelling: TEXUS.
2. It means Texus really IS part of "Latin America."
:rotf:
There's already a Rhome, Italy, and Paris Texas. There's a New York, too, but we won't go there.
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It sounds more like he was in Huntsville and couldn't see much from his cell window. :-)
Very well could have been one of our neighbors!
KC
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There's already a Rhome, Italy, and Paris Texas. There's a New York, too, but we won't go there.
There's even a town for Gator .... Palestine, Texas. :whatever:
KC
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(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/aggie8387/dontmessbumper.jpg)
:-)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/aggie8387/txcapital7.jpg)
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Oh hell! What am I thinking.....I forgot one of the best ones!!!!!!!!!
(http://www.tqnyc.org/NYC052265/gallery_files/image011.jpg)
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
KC
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6954/wtbxdx3.jpg)
Thou shall not make fun of the technologically challenged! :-)
Took me 2 weeks to understand you post ..... :rotf:
KC