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Title: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: Texacon on January 14, 2022, 11:28:17 AM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216243814


I said in another thread the fascists would look for another angle …


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fescuerescue
If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way to go.

I always felt OSHA was iffy from a Supreme Court standpoint, and if upheld could have significant blowback when the Republicans get control again. In any event it's a moot point now anyway.


Now we need to look at Buses, Planes, Highway State line crossing etc.

Perhaps High Rest areas (this has been tested with TSA)

Another possibility is Drivers license and Car registration dependent on vaccination.



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SoonerPride
2. At this point I think it is a lost cause.
Those that want the vaccine will get it and those that do not want it simply won't do it.

"Lead a horse to water" and all the other aphorisms you can think of that apply here.

Take care of yourself and your loved ones and let the antivax crowd get sick and die off.

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uponit7771
5. Then those people need to be isolated and put to the side so the rest of us can go on with life
... and science.

Someone's convinced them they're right about the vaccine and they have a vested interest in not taking it, let them have at it


At least the poster below gets it, must be a conservative mole.


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former9thward
8. Vaxers and anti vaxers are both getting sick.
Yes, the vaxers less so and with less effects. But the die rate is less than 1% so they will not die off in any significant numbers.


How they don’t see the authoritarianism and fascism in their posts completely befuddles me.

KC
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: ADsOutburst on January 14, 2022, 11:35:13 AM
Here's an idea: We don't need a vaccine mandate. COVID is evolving into a less deadly, more contagious version of itself, exactly the way "non-science believers" expected.
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: Zathras on January 14, 2022, 11:38:25 AM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216243814


I said in another thread the fascists would look for another angle %u2026




At least the poster below gets it, must be a conservative mole.



How they don%u2019t see the authoritarianism and fascism in their posts completely befuddles me.

KC

As the saying goes, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Also it isn't authoritarian or fascist when they do it, only when we do it. If the DUmbasses didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on January 14, 2022, 11:41:28 AM


How they don’t see the authoritarianism and fascism in their posts completely befuddles me.

KC
They are communists. They do not feel shame or guilt about anything so long as the push towards communism continues. With that in mind, they are even less likely to acknowledge their own hypocrisy.
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: 67 Rover on January 14, 2022, 11:43:32 AM
Hmm. Maybe republicans can mandate that if you or a facility takes Medicare or Medicaid you are not allowed to perform any abortion procedures?

That appears to pass the SCOTUS requirements.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on January 14, 2022, 11:45:19 AM
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Angleae (3,623 posts)

6. Papers please.

That's what republicans will be saying over and over during the next election if this comes true. Also, drivers licenses and car registrations are state-level only, the feds have no say.

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fescuerescue (3,858 posts)

7. They always say that. who cares what they say.

They don't vote correctly anyway.

You are correct about state level, but there are easy work arounds that have been proven.

Withholding Highway funds unless the states comply is an oldie but goodie.

This was used for the Moto-voter bill as well as raising the drinking age to 21.
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: SVPete on January 14, 2022, 12:25:21 PM
Gee, why not try direct Constitutional means, like persuading legislatures to pass laws?
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: Patriot Guard Rider on January 14, 2022, 12:29:52 PM
Gee, why not try direct Constitutional means, like persuading legislatures to pass laws?

Because democraps will get their way by hook, crook or any other means whether or not it's constitutional.
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: SVPete on January 14, 2022, 12:34:08 PM
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former9thward
8. Vaxers and anti vaxers are both getting sick.
Yes, the vaxers less so and with less effects. But the die rate is less than 1% so they will not die off in any significant numbers.

This is brooklynite's twin-in-occasional-sanity.

The vaxxed, non-vaxxed, and recovered all can get the virus. It is likely that resistance from vax and/or from recovery is at a high enough % of the population that this is at least a significant part of Omicron seeming to be less severe.

IIRC, the death rate for Covid had previously been in the .4% range, with Delta being lower, and Omicron proving itself much lower.
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: jukin on January 15, 2022, 11:55:40 AM
DUmbass fescuerescue is really letting his fascist freak flag fly.

Scratch a self proclaimed liberal, find a fascist. Now more true than ever.
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: DLR Pyro on January 15, 2022, 12:19:45 PM
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fescuerescue
If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way to go.

I always felt OSHA was iffy from a Supreme Court standpoint, and if upheld could have significant blowback when the Republicans get control again. In any event it's a moot point now anyway.


Now we need to look at Buses, Planes, Highway State line crossing etc.

Perhaps High Rest areas (this has been tested with TSA)

Another possibility is Drivers license and Car registration dependent on vaccination..

Why stop with restricting driver licenses and car registration from the unwashed unvaxxed?  How about preventing the unvaxxed from voting since they have proven they can't think in their best interests???
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on January 15, 2022, 12:25:05 PM
Perhaps the fascist left will mandate border crossings and checkpoints between every U.S. state on our interstate drives.  It'll give a nice German or Russian feel for them.
Title: Re: If we can't use OSHA to force vaccinations, perhaps interstate travel is the way
Post by: SVPete on January 15, 2022, 12:35:33 PM
Perhaps the fascist left will mandate border crossings and checkpoints between every U.S. state on our interstate drives.  It'll give a nice German or Russian feel for them.

Name the first two Checkpoint Joementia and Checkpoint Kammie, :rimshot: .