What you need to understand about DU is that it is a PR project (see page 3)

[Ralph Wiggum]

Same thing here, exactly.

When I pull up the "users on line" screen, I don't bother paying attention to the threads members, a known quality to me, are reading.  Members can be reading the porno threads here, and I couldn't possibly care less.

However, I care very much what lurkers are reading.

Members here can see essentially the same things I can see, other than the ISP (internet service provider) numbers, by clicking on USERS ON LINE at the bottom of the forum page.  I've always suggested they check it at least once in a while, to see what's popular; they might see a thread they missed earlier.

Our old home, where I was a member but not a moderator, before the crash in 2008, the same thing; I imagine it's still that way.

It's all good.

It is still that way. Hell, I even do the same thing you do here, Frank.  Even though I'm not a mod.  I am genuinely curious to see what threads people are reading.

[franksolich]

It is still that way. Hell, I even do the same thing you do here, Frank.  Even though I'm not a mod.  I am genuinely curious to see what threads people are reading.

Yeah, I'm not kidding when I say looking at "users on line" is a good thing.

One sees someone reading an ancient thread that's a classic, and one hasn't read before, and it links to that thread.

By the way, when one tries to comment on a thread more than 90 days old, one also gets a warning that the thread's ancient--in bright red lettering, no less--but if one wants to post on it, no problem.  Just hit the post key.

A recollection--when we were still at our old home, before the crash, checking "users on line" was how I figured out that while the Bostonian Drunkard was popular with decent and civilized people, lurkers ignored him.

[franksolich]

By the way, one can "organize" "users on line".

Click on the "users" at the top of the column, and one gets the lurkers first.

Click on it twice, and one gets the members first.

[txradioguy]

I"m able to reach out to the authors of Red Army and The Manchurian Candidate...maybe they can dig up...or already know which PR firm is backing DU.

[franksolich]

It is still that way. Hell, I even do the same thing you do here, Frank.  Even though I'm not a mod.  I am genuinely curious to see what threads people are reading.

I must add that moderators--when there were moderators--on Skins's island were kept on a short leash; one imagines the hosts are kept on an even shorter one.

Apparently my fellow alum Skins doesn't trust his own people.

[txradioguy]

I must add that moderators--when there were moderators--on Skins's island were kept on a short leash; one imagines the hosts are kept on an even shorter one.

Apparently my fellow alum Skins doesn't trust his own people.

Or maybe he's not the one that's really in control of teh DUmp.

 

[Mr Mannn]

I love this thread! Hi5 for txradioguy

[Tucker]

the firm's lackeys unleash "new" posters (with, mysteriously, many thousands of posts)

I noticed this and commented on it when DU3 went on-line.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,69294.msg807505.html#msg807505

I don't know about you, but on DU3, I don't know a majority of the posters. I've never heard of em.

[txradioguy]

Got an interesting email from an author friend of mine concering the DUmp's connections to the aforementioned PR group.

I found this post about the early DLC connection and am working my way down it (although I'm supposed to be working on a book chapter right now). You have to scan down the Internet Archive page to find David B. Allen's name.

http://davefromqueens2.blogspot.com/2010/03/democratic-underground-directly-tied-to.html

The onlineworkshop.com site is no longer active.

http://onlineworkshop.com/

Unfortunately, David Horowitz's DTN stopped updating its DU file long ago. If there were faux lefties involved, DH would have outed them. He's the real deal.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=7300

This has the smell of a Fenton operation, though.

 

[RobJohnson]

Elspeth has an account here at CC. I have not seen her here in a while.

I seem to remember another mass banning at DU in 2004. Anything on that?

I was banned once from CU for sending her a PM and inviting her here after she first joined CU. A lurker read I had invited her in CC's shout box. That was when Gator was still there and Rob Crook aka: Crusty was still the owner of the board. At the same time, with the old software, the admins could read your PMs at CU.

[Tucker]

Thanks TX. Very interesting

[franksolich]

Got an interesting email from an author friend of mine concering the DUmp's connections to the aforementioned PR group.



 

Oh my.

Oh oh my.

Oh my my.

If one's pressed for time, click on at least the first link mentioned.

Oh my.

<<speechless.

[Tucker]

Oh my.

Oh oh my.

Oh my my.

If one's pressed for time, click on at least the first link mentioned.

Oh my.

<<speechless.

First link for sure.

The lady seems like a stark raving moonbats but she exposes some damaging shit that Skimmer wouldn't want the hive to know about.

[USA4ME]

...the firm's lackeys unleash "new" posters (with, mysteriously, many thousands of posts) to push the talking points...

Like Tucker, I noticed this, too.  But here's my problem with it.

The star members on the island have the ability to search the other members posts.  If someone suddenly showed up with 1000+ posts and had no, or very few, supportive posts to back it up, the other primitives would have said something.  I never saw them say a thing about it.  So this thing of "mysteriously many thousand posts" just doesn't cut it with me.

Like I said, her little rant raised questions in its attempt to answer them.

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[whiffleball]

I've seen the DaveFromQueens blog from following links given at other sites.  Don't know that I'd take all of it as truth, maybe a few kernels.  I always thought that was one of many blogs belonging to CorpGovActivist.  He has a history of joining sites, posting prolifically, winding up other posters with CT stuff and ending up getting banned.  He becomes enraged over his unfair banning and goes on a retaliation spree against the site owners.

[USA4ME]

...CorpGovActivist.

I remember that whackjob.  He claimed to be a former employee of Halliburton and had a series of emails of how they were going to cover-up their supposed illegal operations in Africa and maybe some other places.

Looked it up and he has a private twitter account.  Here's his pic.



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[Ptarmigan]

I was banned once from CU for sending her a PM and inviting her here after she first joined CU. A lurker read I had invited her in CC's shout box. That was when Gator was still there and Rob Crook aka: Crusty was still the owner of the board. At the same time, with the old software, the admins could read your PMs at CU.

When did it happen? I remember when CU had their crash in May 2008, some came here.

[Ptarmigan]

Got an interesting email from an author friend of mine concering the DUmp's connections to the aforementioned PR group.



 

This gets more interesting.

[txradioguy]

I'm waiting to hear back from elspeth.  She was gonna dig through her files and see what she had on who she thought the PR firm was.

[txradioguy]

Oh Lurkers....

Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos believes the CIA is a liberal institution with its heart in the right place. That means he is a fake lefty. The same can be said of the folks operating Democratic Underground. We have the paystubs to prove it.

It's not like the owners of DU want the general public to know this. It's not common knowledge they're an insidious organisation. While many have had suspicions, it's not easy to find proof of such. One needs the wayback machine (archive.org) to locate direct ties between DU and the DLC. One other bit of internet proof can only be located now through this blog. DU's registered agent used to be the right wing Law Firm of Howe, Anderson, and Steyer.

http://davefromqueens2.blogspot.com/2010/03/democratic-underground-directly-tied-to.html


 

[RobJohnson]

When did it happen? I remember when CU had their crash in May 2008, some came here.

Right after it came back up after the crash. She used to post at DU and found CU.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Right after it came back up after the crash. She used to post at DU and found CU.

She's still active over at CU, I do recall seeing her post some in the last few months.

[Aristotelian]

Oh my.

I wonder what a DUmmy would make of all of this were one to come over here as a lurker and read the thread...

[txradioguy]

Oh my.

I wonder what a DUmmy would make of all of this were one to come over here as a lurker and read the thread...

I think it would leave them with a lot of questions they would never get answered back at the DUmp.

[Aristotelian]

I think it would leave them with a lot of questions they would never get answered back at the DUmp.

If such questions were to be asked at the DUmp I suspect both poster and thread would rapidly cease to exist or ever to have existed.