I hope this isn't anyone's mole from here. RE: 777 crash in SF

[FiddyBeowulf]

Since you are afraid of flying, if you have a trip coming up and your coworkers offer you a glass of milk, don't drink it you will wake up with a bad attitude.

 

Take. The. Milk.

I have seen what happens when you do not take the milk...unless you like needles or a 2x4 to the back of the head.

[Airwolf]

Since you are afraid of flying, if you have a trip coming up and your coworkers offer you a glass of milk, don't drink it you will wake up with a bad attitude.

 

You mean like this?

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zgQGfBOnh8[/youtube]

[EagleKeeper]

FWIW everything I've heard about this event so far leads me to believe that there was nothing structurally or mechanically wrong with 214.

It was just a botched approach, the thing that I am having trouble getting my head around is that there was supposedly 4 pilots in the cockpit during that approach.

The way I understand it is that they were 7 seconds out before it was noted that they were too low and too slow and 1.5 seconds out before any move was made to go around. How could there not have been 1 or 2 pilots that were stomping on their imaginary brakes.

I assume that the cockpit recording will come out soon enough but I just have to wonder if it had anything to do with Korean culture.   

[obumazombie]

^Bingo.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

^Bingo.

Shouldn't the tower be on top of stuff like this?

[obumazombie]

Shouldn't the tower be on top of stuff like this?

Actually they are very observant about landing aircraft, but they are admonished to not try to fly the aircraft over the radio. If a tower controller or supervisor had enough foresight he could have told Asianair to go around. If that radio call was made early enough in the botched visual approach that may have pulled the chestnuts out of the proverbial fire. But there is no guarantee that the next approach would have been any better.

[I_B_Perky]

I presume that helicopters are out of the question, too. 

 

Since you are afraid of flying, if you have a trip coming up and your coworkers offer you a glass of milk, don't drink it you will wake up with a bad attitude.

 

 

Both ya all can just bite me!!!!   

[NHSparky]

I'll take a stab at it...I remember watching a documentary on the crash at Tenerife back in the 70's.  One of the contributing factors of the KLM jet was the near iron-clad attitude of never, EVER questioning the pilot.  The KLM pilot in question was a very senior guy and was very much of the attitude that everyone else was not to question him.

Now consider the deference in Asian cultures towards the senior or head person.  It's very rude and bad form to correct a senior, even when they are wrong, as it would cost the senior person face.  So it's entirely possible that there were in fact some of the pilots who knew they were too low and slow but were so afraid to correct the more senior but less experienced pilot until it was too late.

[obumazombie]

^Spot on.