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Oh, this is rich
« on: October 10, 2012, 08:22:38 AM »
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NYT: To live and seethe in that world of conspiracy theories means rejecting any form of objective

reality. When unemployment numbers make the administration look good, they are obviously “cooked.” When poll numbers put Mr. Obama ahead, they are skewed. Birth certificates are forgeries. Safety-net programs are giveaways to supporters. Health insurance reform is socialism. And campaign donation disclosure is antibusiness.
 
It’s an upside-down version of life, and it is not innocuous. When desperation leads political critics of the president to discredit important nonpolitical institutions — including the Census Bureau, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Federal Reserve and the Congressional Budget Office — the damage can be long-lasting. If voters come to mistrust the most basic functions of government, the resulting cynicism can destroy the basic compact of citizenship.
 
When Republicans began questioning President Obama’s birth certificate four years ago, it seemed at first like a petulant reaction to a lost election, a flush of nativist and racist anger that would diminish over time. But the preposterous charges never went away. As this election cycle shows, many in the Republican Party continue to see the president as the center of a broad and malevolent liberal conspiracy to upend the truth.
 
Democrats aren’t happy about the latest polls, but they aren’t suggesting Mr. Romney is manipulating them, just as they didn’t undermine the Bureau of Labor Statistics when the jobless numbers were high. Many are far more worried about a conspiracy that is verifiable and serious: the concerted effort by Republicans over the last four years to deprive minorities, poor people and other likely Democratic supporters of their voting rights.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/opinion/conspiracy-world.html?hp

To summarize: Facts have a liberal bias. And republicans don't need no stinking fact-checkers running their campaigns.
 In their world, conspiracy theories based on suspicions alone are all they need.

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1. It impossible to argue with any conspiracy theory nut...

they have an answer for everything and anytime you contradict them or point them to facts destroying their argument, they pull out the old tired canard of "Of course those numbers were cooked by someone working for the government!"
 
It's like arguing with 3 year olds.

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2. The most frustrating thing is that Counter evidence becomes evidence

"Ah - that just shows how far they will go to cover up this conspiracy."

Then again it also bugs me how disagreeing with them is proof that you are a naive simpleton or secretly in the pocket of their enemies.
 
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Dog whistles

Bush knew

Martial law

The end of birth control

Crashed economy

Capital strike

Dominionist want global nuclear war

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Re: Oh, this is rich
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 02:17:33 PM »
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4. I'm amazed that was published in the NY Times.
I'm amazed your so freaking stupid. :loser:
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Re: Oh, this is rich
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 02:25:50 PM »
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1. It impossible to argue with any conspiracy theory nut...

they have an answer for everything and anytime you contradict them or point them to facts destroying their argument, they pull out the old tired canard of "Of course those numbers were cooked by someone working for the government!"
 
It's like arguing with 3 year olds.

Reminds me of MIHOP/LIHOP and/or the 2000 & 2004 elections were stolen.  What the chances this primitive was involved in at least one, if not both, of these conspiracy theories?  Probably really good chance he was.

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Re: Oh, this is rich
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 02:26:48 PM »





Nuff said.
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Re: Oh, this is rich
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 02:36:07 PM »
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Re: Oh, this is rich
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2012, 03:11:45 PM »
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To summarize: Facts have a liberal bias. And republicans don't need no stinking fact-checkers running their campaigns.

So close.  The fix below is more accurate.

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To summarize: Fact checkers have a liberal bias. And republicans don't need no stinking fact-checkers running their campaigns.

Who's checking the fact checkers?  We as conservatives are, and we've come to discover it's just as we thought it would be; fact checkers aren't checking the facts, they're inserting their own liberal beliefs in the place of the truth.

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Re: Oh, this is rich
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2012, 03:17:25 PM »
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When Republicans began questioning President Obama’s birth certificate four years ago

Who started questioning Barqui's BC?





Who?




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To summarize:

You are a brain-dead serf.
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Re: Oh, this is rich
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2012, 03:31:58 PM »
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Democrats aren’t happy about the latest polls, but they aren’t suggesting Mr. Romney is manipulating them, just as they didn’t undermine the Bureau of Labor Statistics when the jobless numbers were high. Many are far more worried about a conspiracy that is verifiable and serious: the concerted effort by Republicans over the last four years to deprive minorities, poor people and other likely Democratic supporters of their voting rights.

The reason the polls changed so drastically (besides the debate) was that the polls showing Obama ahead by 10 points were polling adults not LIKELY VOTERS and oversampling dems either by using 2008 models or by even more dems than came out in 2008.   :whatever:  All of a sudden, as it got closer to he election, they started polling likely voters, some are still oversampling dems but still showing Romney ahead. Sucks to be you DUmmies.
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Re: Oh, this is rich
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2012, 03:36:23 PM »
Quote from: BEG on October 10, 2012, 03:31:58 PM
The reason the polls changed so drastically (besides the debate) was that the polls showing Obama ahead by 10 points were polling adults not LIKELY VOTERS and oversampling dems either by using 2008 models or by even more dems than came out in 2008.   :whatever:  All of a sudden, as it got closer to he election, they started polling likely voters, some are still oversampling dems but still showing Romney ahead. Sucks to be you DUmmies.

STOP TELLING THE TRUTH!!!!!



STOP IT!!!!!!eleVeNtY!!!!11111!!!!
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