Was bin Laden under house arrest?

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[snort] I can't think of a way to make fun of this post any better than just to let you read it:

Old and In the Way  (1000+ posts)      Thu May-05-11 06:53 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x314433

Was bin Laden under house arrest?  
Anyone else think that this is a very important aspect of the OBL story to understand? Either OBL plays Pakistan as complete idiots and has balls the size of watermelons to make his home in a city where Pakistan's 'West Point' is a few hundred yards up the road...or he's under a benevolent but tightly controlled, limited access arrangement. Comfortable enough that he can have his family and maintain key communication with whatever is left of his network. But tight enough that no one (until now) gets access to the compound. We know that the ISI has deep roots with AQ and may even have some direct connection to 9/11. We also know that the Bush administration made billions of dollars available to Pakistan to enlist their aid in the GWOT. Now, what if a good chunk of that money was to hold and/or protect OBL - essentially keeping him secure in a compound under military/ISI protection? By allowing him to remain alive and involved with his network so as to keep the justification for continued US war engagement in the ME going? And by keeping the war going, the price of oil up well over $100/barrel? On the Rachael Maddow show tonight, she dropped a factoid that the price of a barrel of oil the week before 9/11 was $27.00 and change - pretty stable over the prior decades, too. Since 9/11. it's been well north of $100.00/barrel. It's just dropped below $100 with the announcement of his death.

If OBL was under the protection of Pakistan and still allowed to run his AQ network to continue the GWOT and keep billions flowing into Pakistan, ostensibly to help fight the 'war on terrorism' - then it's the American people who've been played and the con has taken us, collectively, for trillions of dollars. But this kind of con doesn't happen unless there are actors in our own government who stand to make a killing by facilitating the con. Which leads us back to the fact that we never did get the full story of what really happened on 9/11/01.

Yes, the Bush Criminal Crime Family paid Pakistan to keep OBL in a prison like compound for the last six years so the price of oil would rise. 

riderinthestorm  (1000+ posts)      Thu May-05-11 07:06 PM
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2. Join the (not very crowded) crowd. There have been a couple other threads
 along these lines. It's interesting to me that they drop like a stone after a couple dozen posts. Your question is an important one so I'll K&R before I head to bed. Good luck!

From the wiseguy:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Interestingly enough, this one from tinrobot got moved to the 911 dungeon, I have no idea why:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Or perhaps randrs thread....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

 

DU is censoring the posts because the truth can not be allowed to be free...or something.

defendandprotect  (1000+ posts)        Thu May-05-11 07:10 PM
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4. Interesting ... will we still be flying drones over Pakistan? 
 Edited on Thu May-05-11 07:15 PM by defendandprotect
US/CIA financed Taliban/Al Qaeda thru ISI-Pakistan in order to "bait the Russians

into Afghanistan ... in hopes of giving them a Vietnam-type experience."

US went into Afghanistan 6 months before the Russians came in.

Further, we financed Taliban up to the moment of 9/11 -- !!


There has long been discussion of OBL being allowed to move on to Pakistan --

presumably under the protection of the W/Cheney administration --

In fact, W shut down the CIA station hunting down OBL in 2006 -- !!

OBL was to be a SCAPEGOAT for 9/11 and it's worked very well for W/Cheney.

US/CIA also played a very large role in creating a violent strain of Islam in ME --

US created, wrote, printed the very violent textbooks we heard so much about on our TVs --

and shipped them into the ME for that purpose.

Anyone want more info on that -- let me know!

Yup. Bush did 9/11.

ProSense  (1000+ posts)        Thu May-05-11 07:26 PM
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6. So bin Laden
 Edited on Thu May-05-11 07:29 PM by ProSense
was alive and, in fact, Pakistan is guilty of war crimes despite official denials that it knew of bin Laden's whereabouts?

"But this kind of con doesn't happen unless there are actors in our own government who stand to make a killing by facilitating the con. Which leads us back to the fact that we never did get the full story of what really happened on 9/11/01."

Someone in the U.S. government (under Bush?) was giving Pakistan billions to harbor bin Laden, allowing him to fund Al Qaeda and carry out terrorist attacks?

What are the time frames?

Bush launched the Iraq war and stopped looking for bin Laden so it's obvious his administration wasn't serious about taking down the terrorist network.

OBL and GWB...twins?

Old and In the Way  (1000+ posts)      Thu May-05-11 08:32 PM
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14. "it's obvious his administration wasn't serious about taking down the terrorist network."
 But you can't very well conduct a GWOT without having a terror network, can you? In the meantime, that GWOT has cost us trillions in wealth in the form of $100/barrel oil and $3-4 dollar gas. And that war against Iraq took a huge source of supply off the world markets. One country has made out remarkably well during the past 10 years, though - Saudi Arabia. The country where 17 of the 19 hijackers came from. Finding bin Laden within 6 months of 9/11 wouldn't have drained the Treasury nearly as effectively as having him 'on the run" for the past 10 years.

Saudi and Bush did 9/11.
 

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The Sept 18th 2001 AUMF says any nation harboring a terrorist that attacks or poses a threat to the US is considered part of the war.

Do you DUmbasses *really* want to talk this when vis-a-vis one nuclear armed nationed to another?

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Old and In the Way  (1000+ posts)      Thu May-05-11 06:53 PM
http://www.democraticunde...ll&address=125x314433

Was bin Laden under house arrest? 
Anyone else think that this is a very important aspect of the OBL story to understand? Either OBL plays Pakistan as complete idiots and has balls the size of watermelons to make his home in a city where Pakistan's 'West Point' is a few hundred yards up the road...or he's under a benevolent but tightly controlled, limited access arrangement. Comfortable enough that he can have his family and maintain key communication with whatever is left of his network.

Sequestered, covered, protected, aliased, proxied, and computer re-routed enough to Skinnerize the DUmp DUmmies out of their jihad funding donations and America hating, dope-smoking support of beheading their very own family members.
Is there any other way way we can support the dope-head hippies?

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defendandprotect  (1000+ posts)        Thu May-05-11 07:10 PM
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4. Interesting ... will we still be flying drones over Pakistan?
 Edited on Thu May-05-11 07:15 PM by defendandprotect
US/CIA financed Taliban/Al Qaeda thru ISI-Pakistan in order to "bait the Russians

Sorry to tell you this defend-nimrod - it wasn't Taliban/OBL/Al Qaeda, it was your grandpa Buford cooking up the blindness causing moonshine in your birthplace, a swampy trench in the Kentucky backwoods. The only "drone" you know of is your wet-brained brother whom was bottle fed on grand pappy's wares and thinks that wild boars have pretty mouths and an erotic rear-end.