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primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« on: January 15, 2009, 03:25:07 PM »
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Lets put this to rest, it really is important.

If the price on gas goes up, the demand goes down primarily due to poor people not buying gas. So the brunt of the demand decrease is on the poor people. They can only cut back to the point of only buying gas to go to work. The point of reducing demand is to save the planet, and I believe that is an important goal. If it is that important why can't we shift the cost to the people that have money and can afford it. Why can't we give the poor gas credit cards for a discount on gas and then tax the hell out of gas. That way demand decrease will be shifted to people more able to financially cope with it and make a choice that doesn't effect their health.

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I knew it was a matter of time until one of the nuts came up with this.

IOW, if a rich person and a poor person go to the grocery store to buy bread, and the rich person can afford to pay $10 a loaf, and the poor person can only afford 10 cents, then that's what they should pay.  :mental:

I don't even have the time to go over all the reasons that system would crash in on itself.

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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 03:28:07 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on January 15, 2009, 03:25:07 PM
I knew it was a matter of time until one of the nuts came up with this.

IOW, if a rich person and a poor person go to the grocery store to buy bread, and the rich person can afford to pay $10 a loaf, and the poor person can only afford 10 cents, then that's what they should pay.  :mental:

I don't even have the time to go over all the reasons that system would crash in on itself.

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This would be funnier than hell.  I could see poor people selling the gas to the rich .... then becoming rich and bitching about it!  LOL

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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2009, 03:30:44 PM »
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2. People will cheat. They always cheat. We need LESS government bureaucracy, not more.

OK, what's in the drinking water over there?  This should be getting around 135,000 alerts.

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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2009, 03:30:53 PM »
Quote from: Texacon on January 15, 2009, 03:28:07 PM
This would be funnier than hell.  I could see poor people selling the gas to the rich .... then becoming rich and bitching about it!  LOL

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Great call (and a H5)!  The underground economy would be bigger than the aboveground one.  Like with Food Stamps now.
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2009, 03:37:09 PM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on January 15, 2009, 03:30:53 PM
Great call (and a H5)!  The underground economy would be bigger than the aboveground one.  Like with Food Stamps now.


No kidding!  I could see poor people lined up at pumps across the nation with their 'credit' card in hand. 

"Excuse me sir, would you like to buy MY gas which is $1.00 cheaper than you will pay if you use your card?"  "I'll only charge you $.50/gallon to use my card .... $.65/gallon if you would actually like me to pump it for you.  Hell, I'll even clean your windshield for an extra $20!"

Oh yeah, there is some real thought from the DUmbass.

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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2009, 03:49:06 PM »
....but first you have to prove you have a job to go to and then present a time card showing you're at work at least 95% of the time. ....then I'll fart in the tank of your Yugo.
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2009, 04:08:17 PM »
DUmmies should realize that only in the civilized western nations they claim to hate, can a person claim to be "poor" and still own a car, basic cable, internet and so on.

Quote from: Texacon on January 15, 2009, 03:37:09 PM
No kidding!  I could see poor people lined up at pumps across the nation with their 'credit' card in hand. 

"Excuse me sir, would you like to buy MY gas which is $1.00 cheaper than you will pay if you use your card?"  "I'll only charge you $.50/gallon to use my card .... $.65/gallon if you would actually like me to pump it for you.  Hell, I'll even clean your windshield for an extra $20!"

Oh yeah, there is some real thought from the DUmbass.

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See, there you go thinking like a evil capitalist. If they were smart enough to do this, they wouldn't be "poor" in the first place.
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2009, 04:11:48 PM »
Quote from: Texacon on January 15, 2009, 03:28:07 PM
This would be funnier than hell.  I could see poor people selling the gas to the rich .... then becoming rich and bitching about it!  LOL

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This has already been tried either in Minnesota or The Northwest...some kind of store or bakery where each paid according to their ability...the place was lauded by the MSM...but has already gone out of business.

Rush talked about this before Christmas.
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2009, 04:12:05 PM »
Quote from: LC EFA on January 15, 2009, 04:08:17 PM
DUmmies should realize that only in the civilized western nations they claim to hate, can a person claim to be "poor" and still own a car, basic cable, internet and so on.

See, there you go thinking like a evil capitalist. If they were smart enough to do this, they wouldn't be "poor" in the first place.


A lot of poor people are clever -- they just made terrible decisions and terrible times.  Like I said, they have no problem with selling their Food Stamps at 50 cents on the dollar.  They get their drug money, the buyer gets a steep discount.  And the only person hurt is the American Taxpayer -- what could be more fair?
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2009, 05:59:17 PM »
If they want to let the poor pay what ever they are able to pay then they should have no problem with their employers paying them what ever they can afford as well. 
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2009, 06:03:02 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on January 15, 2009, 04:11:48 PM
This has already been tried either in Minnesota or The Northwest...some kind of store or bakery where each paid according to their ability...the place was lauded by the MSM...but has already gone out of business.

Rush talked about this before Christmas.

It was in Salt Lake City, and yes, it was an utter failure.

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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2009, 06:04:24 PM »
Quote from: BEG on January 15, 2009, 05:59:17 PM
If they want to let the poor pay what ever they are able to pay then they should have no problem with their employers paying them what ever they can afford as well. 

Works for me (for those that are employed)!  H5, BTW.
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2009, 06:18:20 PM »
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3. Didn't they try that
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Im trying to decide if this reply was meant in a positive or negative way in-re the Soviet Union.
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2009, 06:20:40 PM »
Not only is it one of the stupidest damn things I have ever heard of it also shows clearly how incredibly vacant a DUmmies entire thought process is.

Who is going to determine just what the threshold level for such inanity is.

Guess what DUmmy..live in one of your liberal wonderland states like NY or the rest of the northeast and the cost of living with some urban population concentration would mean that more would be "poor" enough to qualify then you might think.
If there aren`t enough of the arbitrarily rich to offset the difference the fuel companies would probably think twice about sending the product.

How would it affect public transportation and taxi companies?

Called the law of unintended consequences and you idiots don`t have enough brains to even begin to comprehend such things.

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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2009, 06:24:29 PM »
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The point of reducing demand is to save the planet, and I believe that is an important goal.

Sorry moonbat, but that is what the Gorites want you to believe.  If you are stupid enough to buy into that...  well, it's not our problem.
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2009, 06:29:16 PM »
Don't you just love the way these idiots won't even put a $$$$ amount to what "rich" is?
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2009, 11:10:26 PM »
I got a better idea. Lets let the customer decide how much they feel like paying! Its a great business model.

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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2009, 11:12:16 PM »
Welfare recipients have been selling their food stamps for .50 cents on the dollar for years. You can't buy beer and "other" things, with food stamps.
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2009, 11:20:09 PM »
Quote from: FGL on January 15, 2009, 11:10:26 PM
I got a better idea. Lets let the customer decide how much they feel like paying! Its a great business model.

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Somebody already tried that.  It didn't work :rofl:

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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2009, 11:24:27 PM »
Why don't they just admit they want to tax conservatism and get it over with?
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2009, 01:07:37 AM »
They ain't called DUmmies for nuttin
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2009, 01:40:24 AM »
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Lets put this to rest, it really is important.

If the price on gas goes up, the demand goes down primarily due to poor people not buying gas. So the brunt of the demand decrease is on the poor people. They can only cut back to the point of only buying gas to go to work. The point of reducing demand is to save the planet, and I believe that is an important goal. If it is that important why can't we shift the cost to the people that have money and can afford it. Why can't we give the poor gas credit cards for a discount on gas and then tax the hell out of gas. That way demand decrease will be shifted to people more able to financially cope with it and make a choice that doesn't effect their health.

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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2009, 05:32:41 AM »
WHy doesn't the callchet primitive just "save the planet" by killing itself?  That would reduce demand, too . . .
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Re: primitive wants consumer prices to be based on ability to pay
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2009, 05:34:36 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on January 16, 2009, 05:32:41 AM
WHy doesn't the callchet primitive just "save the planet" by killing itself?  That would reduce demand, too . . .

Demand yes, consumption only very slightly.

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