http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6387043Oh my.
But I looked, and no mountain man primitive at this bonfire.
Craftsman (427 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:24 PM
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Seniors Angry Over No Social Security Increase
For the lunchtime crowd at the White Plains Senior Center, it was very unappetizing news.
"We work all our lives, and now they want to cut back on the little bit they give us? I don't think that's right," said Mercedes Leis.
Every year since 1975, social security recipients have received a cost of living adjustment, known as a COLA.
"Each year that we get that little raise, that's a big help to us seniors, it really is," said Joan Narracci.
http://wcbstv.com/local/social.security.cut.2.1142197.h...
One's really suprised the mountain man primitive didn't light this bonfire.
rox63 (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:25 PM
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1. This was known last year, when the Idiot Son was still in power
I hope they realize that Obama is not to blame for this.
YOY (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Oh you know they will.
THey'll totally try and blame O for this.
Well, who's been in the White House the past seven months?
Whose followers promised us instant miracles, beginning January 20, 2009?
Craftsman (427 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. This happened on O's watch therefore to many it is his
Meet the third rail of politics.
bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. Obama gave them a one time $250 payment as part of the stimulus
Any senior citizen who is bitching about the stimulus is welcome to send the money back.
Craftsman (427 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. So that money is long spent and forgotten by many
YOY (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:26 PM
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2. I wonder how many of them realize that it's a SOCIALIST program.
billyclem (8 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #2
27. Not really a socialist program...
Remember, each of us has 6.2% of our gross income deducted as our SS contribution and our employer must match that 6.2%. So for our working life 12.4% of our gross income is going into the SS fund. I am three years away from being able to collect SS and I doubt that I will live long enough to recoup my 6.2%. This is for the basic SS. When SSI, the other programs that are funded from the 12.4% contribution, and congressional borrowing are considered, then we can see how the entire fund is in trouble.
It's in trouble because of freeloaders like the subway cat, too.
SoCalNative (766 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:27 PM
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4. Hey I didn't get a raise this year either
it's the economy, stupid.
And at least THEY GET SS..it likely will not be around in another 20 years or so when I'm ready to collect.
A Fat Che in the punch bowl pops up:
closeupready (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #4
29. I have some good news for you: Not only will it be around in 20 years, it will be around in 100 years!
Romulox (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:30 PM
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6. Ummm, "Cost of Living Allowance". It's not a merit raise.
valerief (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. Congress ALWAYS gets theirs, though.
Craftsman (427 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. And Granny knows it
One issue with having as many seats at the democrats have is they are now responsible for all that happens. The good or the bad.
Yep, the Democrats are responsible. No disagreement here.
Romulox (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. We little worker bees (you know, the ones who pay for it all) don't. That's for sure.
Man, the Rolex watch primitive sounds like a sour ass, doesn't he?
DJ13 (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:31 PM
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7. Its complete bullcrap
How can the government KNOW what the rate of inflation will be for the rest of 2009?
Then lets talk about the mind reading it takes to claim they will not see any inflation for all of 2010 as well.
Once again our government is willing to save some money off the misery of the old and the disabled, and it makes me sick.
Another Fat Che in the punch bowl plops up:
NEOhiodemocrat (367 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:33 PM
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10. My husband won't get the raise
And that is fine with me. With unemployment so high and economic problems I am just happy we will be getting it! But if a good health care progam passes I won't be happy, I'll be estatic! We are at that age where health care is the real problem for our finances.
KansDem (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. I'm not getting a raise this year, either....
But our CEO gave himself something like a 22% increase in his pay last summer. He must have saw this all coming and wanted to get it while the getting was good...
KansDem (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:33 PM
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11. Hey! Unnecessary wars based on lies and bailouts for the wealthiest are expensive!
Not to mention that many oligarchs have squirreled their ill-gotten swag in overseas accounts to avoid paying taxes.
You know, the very taxes that could go to...COLAs.
mediaman007 (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:34 PM
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12. This is the way its going to be. The COLA doesn't include volatile items like gasoline and food. That's why our inflation rate is so low. I think that they look at things like automobile prices, refrigerators and televisions.
(The stuff you buy everyday! Sarcasm!)
A third Fat Che in the punch bowl plops up, stripping the chance for the other primitives to be angry:
Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 12:34 PM
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13. They are being ridiculous.
I'm on SSDI, and also the sole caregiver for my 90 year old dad. His total income is SS. Neither of us is upset.
It makes sense in a recession. No inflation = no COLA.
gratuitous (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. I think many are upset
But most realize the whys and wherefores; doesn't mean they can't still be upset. Of course, it doesn't make for good copy to have someone say, "It makes sense in a recession." Far more interesting as far as the popular media is concerned to have someone complaining about the injustice of it all and casting about for a scapegoat (read Democrats).
Of course. Who's in the White House, and who runs Congress?
Craftsman (427 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. Many people vote their wallets.
Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:13 PM
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17. If anyone cares for some facts
Here is the actual full deal. No COLA would be a difficulty anyway, as the way they judge inflation is not reality based, but the fact is some will see a decrease in their net, for the first time ever in history, because of George W Bush's Part D drug plan.
The other elements of Medicare are never allowed to raise premiums more than the COLA raises benefits, so no raise, no increase. GW Bush and his crowd insisted that part D be allowed to raise premiums no matter what the COLA does, so this year, because of GW Bush, some Medicare beneficiaries will see their Part D premiums rise, while their benefit remains flat, and they will have less to spend each month because of that.
That is 100% Bushco policy, one that could be changed and just might be. It is wrong, out of step with the rest of Medicare's alphabet of parts, and the fact that such increase are allowed will be a shock to lots of people. It is important to know why this is happening, and the why is GW Bush and Republican controlled Congress.
Craftsman (427 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Many will not care
Democrats control, the House, the Senate, and the Whitehouse.
Uh-huh.
Man, there's a lot of Fat Ches in this punch bowl, plopping up to the top, to remind the angry primitives to be grateful, rather than angry:
southernyankeebelle (474 posts) Tue Aug-25-09 01:22 PM
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24. Let me tell you old people shut the **** up. I am going to apply to get early retirement in January. I will be 62 yrs old. They can't take that away from me. I know its hard out there but you aren't missing something you haven't gotten. We have to be willing to make scarifics too. There are young families out there struggling. You that are doing ok can stay home a day or two. Invite your friends and play cards or bingo or have sex, whatever. Am sick of hearing you complain. You get many advantages now that you are old. I no people in my rural town over 80 don't have to pay property tax. You get senior citizen discounts to alot of places. Don't crying it could be worse. You could lose it all. Than where will you be? If you are republicans forget your children, hell they don't even want people to have health care public option. So shut up. Get over it.
