Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:52 PM
speak easy (4,020 posts)
France recalls its Ambassador for the first time since the Revolutionary War,
cancels the commemoration of the Battle of Chesapeake Bay.
France recalls ambassadors to US and Australia after Aukus pact
First time France has recalled a US ambassador in alliance dating back to American revolution
... The French foreign minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, said the order to bring the ambassadors back to Paris “immediately” was made at the request of the French president, Emmanuel Macron.
... Peter Ricketts, a former permanent undersecretary at the Foreign Office and former UK ambassador to France, tweeted: “Don’t underestimate reaction in Paris. It’s not just anger but a real sense of betrayal that UK as well as US and Aus negotiated behind their backs for 6 months. I lived the rupture in 2003 over Iraq. This feels as bad or worse.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/17/france-recalls-ambassadors-to-us-and-australia-after-aukus-pact
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215868440Is this part of Sleepy Joe's foreign policy reset and restoration of norms?
Everything this Silver Shit Midas touches goes to hell.
He can't do anything right. What a disaster.
Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #2)Fri Sep 17, 2021, 10:03 PM
speak easy (4,020 posts)
3. France has been our ally throughout history.
And that doddering old fool pResident has managed to screw it up.
Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #2)Fri Sep 17, 2021, 10:06 PM
Star Member TheRealNorth (4,032 posts)
4. I agree
This whole thing seems to be a failure of the State Department/diplomatic corps.
And especially that liver spotted old fool in the White House--where the buck stops.
Response to tirebiter (Reply #16)Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:44 AM
Star Member DFW (44,028 posts)
24. DeGaulle pulling out of the military part of NATO was a major finger in our faces.
He never got over France no longer being the center of the world. What he did was a far greater affront, and yes, Macron is indeed down in the polls. And you know what? Most French won't care.
I'm down in France practically every week for work, and speak the language pretty much fluently. There are people there with whom I have worked for over 40 years. I can tell you with 100% certainty that there are no bigger critics of France and their government than the French, themselves.
In the Asterix comics, the French were portrayed as continually bickering among themselves while trying to stave off (mostly) the Romans and Julius Caesar, but also the Goths (the Germans) and the Normans (the Vikings) among others. I don't know how it was in the days of Vercingetorix, but today, it was an accurate depiction.
Marc, who, incidentally, can parlez vous the francais pretty much fluently chimes in with some nonsense that doesn't enlighten but only serves to show off what a sophisticated European continental he is.
Response to speak easy (Original post)Sat Sep 18, 2021, 04:54 AM
Shanti Shanti Shanti (10,651 posts)
26. Relax France,when we go to war with China over Taiwan there will be plenty of new weapons contracts
We're going to war with China? Maybe that's why Peloski is keeping the traitor Milley on the payroll--to warn foreigners not to worry, we won't let the senile, unfit Biden start a war.
