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Army-Navy football game live thread
« on: December 11, 2009, 12:52:51 PM »
Okay, this is the only regular-season college football game on tap for Saturday.

http://www.pe.com/sports/breakout/stories/PE_Sports_Local_S_patton_11.44e4140.html

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Army-Navy not just a football game

10:00 PM PST on Thursday, December 10, 2009

It's been awhile -- say, half a century or so -- since Army or Navy figured in college football's national title picture.

Heisman Trophy candidates from the two military schools have gone the way of the bazooka gun. With the lure of NFL dollars in their futures, prep stars mostly avoid academy educations that lead to serious military commitments and away from Sundays in 80,000-seat stadiums.

Nevertheless, the teams and the game -- unique among rivalries -- soldiers on. Saturday's contest, the 110th in the series, may not move the Bowl Championship needle, draw pro scouts or fill sports bars. But for those in uniform, not the football kind, it's as big a sports day as it gets.

We know the whole Navy will be watching," said Kriss Proctor, a sophomore backup quarterback for the Midshipmen who played at Big Bear High. "All the Army guys, too.

"Guys overseas, maybe they get away from the war for a little bit."

Proctor spoke by phone from Annapolis, Md.

Capt. Scott Eden spoke this week by phone from Baghdad, Iraq, where the former Lake Elsinore Temescal Canyon running back, and Army football player, is on his second tour of duty.

"It goes way past being a college football game," Eden said. "It's a global game."

One that he plans to watch with 200 of his closest Army, Navy and Marine buddies at their Baghdad installation, complete with an Army-Navy cookoff beforehand.

"Wherever you have soldiers, sailors, Marines, in Afghanistan, Iraq or wherever, they'll be watching."

They will likely see a good one. Navy is 8-4, with a win at Notre Dame, and on its way to the Texas Bowl. With a victory, Army (5-6) becomes bowl eligible, a circumstance that would bump current place-holder UCLA out of the EagleBank game in Washington, D.C.

Regardless of the state of either team, the value of the game as an American tradition has been fortified. Formerly played the first Saturday in December, it has been moved to the second, keeping it from conflicting with conference championship games, and leaving it alone as the last regular-season game of the Division I season.

Some people, of course, would make room for Army-Navy if it conflicted with the BCS title game. Eden's attachment includes one brief moment on the field.

"I call it my 'Rudy experience,' " he said. "My only chance to play came at the end of the game, my senior year.

"It's a pretty crazy atmosphere."

From one crazy atmosphere to another, nothing at all alike. Eden, who has a wife, Cassi, and two small daughters at home, has been in Iraq since March with three months left on this tour.

His first trip lasted from October 2006 to December 2007. On that one, as a field artillery officer, Eden said he went on patrol virtually every day. His second tour, he said, has gone from the "lethal to the non-lethal side."

He is part of an "engagement cell," which does liaison work between Iraqi government officials and U.S commanders.

"A lot more talking and a lot less fighting," he said.

Saturday will be for hollering.

"My roommate is a Navy (officer)," he said. "I yell, 'Beat Navy,' when I see him, and he yells back."

Proctor has played in three games this year in relief of starter Ricky Dobbs. In limited action he has scored five touchdowns and run for 223 yards in Navy's triple-option offense.

He drew interest from Stanford and Utah among others in high school, but he chose the singular academy experience because "it's something you don't get very many places."

It includes the Army-Navy game.

"The adrenaline takes care of itself," Proctor said. "Former players and (alums) have talked to us and sent e-mails."

Said Eden from Baghdad: "There will be a lot of rooting here."

Usually, the rooting goes in the other direction, even from people who aren't military. And the game's participants are mindful of that.

"It's a rivalry between teams," Proctor said. "But this one we know we're playing for those guys."

I guess the outcome of this game determines a particular bowl match-up, but I disremember with whom.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2009, 01:04:51 PM »
You know, speaking as a professional civilian, this is a hard one to determine which team one wishes to win.

When one has no sentimental ties with particular college football teams, the first criteria one should use is, which team has the most history, tradition, and color?

In this case, it seems a tie.

Minus that, one should then use the criteria, which team is the closest to oneself in geography, culture, and sentiment?

In this case, both teams are back east, in a time and place utterly different from the snowbound Sandhills of Nebraska.

Well then, what about miscellaneous criteria?

Most in Nebraska, a landlocked state, who serve in the military, chose the Navy or the Marines, many of with whom franksolich enjoys social associations.

Okay.

But on the other hand, the Army seems more important.

Oops, back to the drawing board.

About the only "edge" one can discern, when trying to find a team to boost, is that until the second world war, Naval officers were the cream of Washington, D.C. high society, while Army officers were generally ignored.

A dilemma wrapped up in a quandary.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2009, 01:13:41 PM »
As a soldier who neither attended, nor will ever be able to attend, West Point, I don't put much interest in this game.

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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 04:47:39 PM »
Go Army.......but Navy is going to smoke their asses.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 11:06:49 AM »
Go Army.......but Navy is going to smoke their asses.

Agree on both.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 12:11:47 PM »
Just a head's up.

The game starts at 1:30 p.m. central time, 12:30 p.m. mountain time.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 12:28:34 PM »
Go Army.......but Navy is going to smoke their asses.

Smoke may be too kind of a word for what the midshipmen will inflict today

Though Army gets a bowl if they win, Navy's already going bowling

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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 01:22:14 PM »
Navy leads the series.  :tongue:




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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2009, 01:25:35 PM »
The game's just about to get underway now, and I haven't decided.

It's really hard to be neutral or indifferent; one has to be for one thing or another.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2009, 01:47:51 PM »
Navy's got the "Dress Blues" unis on.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 01:54:43 PM »
Navy's got the "Dress Blues" unis on.

You know, we got this situation again, the same situation we had last week, during the Louisiana Tech game.

I'm assuming that Yahoo! sports has a guy sitting in a cubicle, watching television, and entering statistics as they happen, for the Yahoo! scoreboard.

It's handy for those of us not watching television.

Well, this guy in the Yahoo! cubicle is either smoking dope or groping girlfriend, and hasn't punched anything in yet.  For all I know, Army-Navy's in the second quarter now.

I was hoping the primitives would have a "live thread" on Skins's island that I could borrow from, but nothing over there.

I did however find the boss boar's bowl game predictions.

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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2009, 01:58:31 PM »
Okay, now this looks promising, just now started.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x128660

Maybe this is the boss boar's "live thread" for the Army-Navy game.

It's too early to tell, but maybe.....

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Farewell to college joys
we sail at the break of day, day, day, day
to our last night ashore
drink to the foam
until we meet again
here's wishing you a happy voyage Home

Love ya Navy
Love ya Army

Or maybe the boss boar primitive's just drunk.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009, 02:12:37 PM »
Nobody's paying attention to the boss boar primitive.

So far, 17 primitives have gone to the bonfire, which I hope is meant to be a "live thread" for the Army-Navy game, but they've all been mum.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2009, 02:14:12 PM »
Yeah, WTF? Yahoo's not even livestreaming the game. G*d damn CA hippies...
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2009, 02:15:43 PM »
Yeah, WTF? Yahoo's not even livestreaming the game. G*d damn CA hippies...

You know, I went to msn sports hoping to find a scoreboard, so as to report on scoring as it happens, but msn apparently doesn't even know there's a game today.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2009, 02:17:09 PM »
FG Black Knights.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2009, 02:25:10 PM »
Army FF and Rec. around 50.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 02:28:29 PM »
You know, the boss boar primitive on Skins's island, who's Navy, has groupies that follow and adhere to him--that's why the boss boar primitive's a third-tier primitive rather than one of the unterprimitiven.

I thought for sure the primitives would be congesting around the boss boar primitive's bonfire about this game, but while 25 have looked, none have said.

One's starting to have doubts about the leadership qualities of the boss boar primitive.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 02:39:39 PM »
Again, from an earlier bonfire:

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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2009, 03:25:11 PM »
Halftime.

Army up 3-0.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2009, 03:41:03 PM »
TD Navy.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2009, 04:04:17 PM »
FG Navy

Navy 10-3 Army.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2009, 04:16:46 PM »
Army misses another FG  :cheersmate:
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2009, 04:30:24 PM »
TD Navy.

Up by 14 now.
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Re: Army-Navy football game live thread
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2009, 04:42:38 PM »
I guess that the Middies are going to kick the doggies ass AGAIN, this year.
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