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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 07, 2018, 01:37:55 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210969893
Oh my.
One's left speechless by the utter literariness of it.
MrScorpio (69,809 posts) Mon Aug 6, 2018, 04:14 PM
The other day I said that I was planning on writing an extended rant on a particular subject...
The one I had in mind was about toxic white entitlement, which I believe is not only a present day problem, I'm quite sure that it's been a huge problem since the inception of America.
I wanted to first reference Dr. Robin DiAngelo's newest book, "White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism," before I stated my case. But I stopped by the local B&N, and lo and behold, it wasn't even in stock. I'm going to pick it up through Amazon eventually.
Now mind you, I was a bit pissed off at the time I made that earlier post. I recognized that then and I chose to wait a little time to both gather my thoughts, check references and calm down a bit. I have and I decided to just write a few points down, instead of writing a book.
The main point being is that it's quite clear that Donald Trump's ascendancy, on the backs of both a massive whitelash against the Obama years and with a fair bit of the Russian's declaring war on our democracy, was the quintessential moment of toxic white entitlement in the modern era.
The people who voted for him didn't care that he was a corrupt, unstable uncouth, inveterate con man with delusions of grandeur who just happened to be white. They voted for him because he was the one white man who openly embodied their utter contempt for Obama's black excellence.
The thing is that Trump, without his wealth, is nothing more than an incompetent, mediocre asshole, with his only saving grace to these people is the fact that he's a white guy who has utter contempt for people of color. He's pretty much the focal point of their misplaced anger for being mediocre white people themselves. He's encouraged them to attack scapegoats in the form of non-christians, immigrants and black and brown people.
The constant attempted proxy murders of black people by the police by whites is just the Trump cultists' way of exercising some self-appointed moral authority over our existence. Trump has pretty much used his existence in the White House to give these people that feeling of moral authority. They feel entitled to police black and brown people within their eyesight.
Dr. DiAngelo has referenced the almost pathological inability of most white people in this country to deal with racial stress. Because of what she's observed, she has labeled that phenomena "white fragility." One problem with white fragility is the fact that it inhibits white people from dealing with racism in general. I feel that this is also where toxic white entitlement comes in, because if something, like discussions about race, makes white people feel uncomfortable and white people singularly inhabit society's top socio-economic strata, then they feel that they're allowed to call the shots.
Shots like calling Black Lives Matters activists "racist," or declaring that America's "real" racial problem is actually their warped belief that white people are the real victims.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, speaking as a black person living in America, I know full well that everything that I've just laid out can be ignored and disputed even by well meaning white people. Hell, some of those same white people may be offended by the use of the phrase, "white people." As an aside, the reason for that is the notion that identifying whites as part of a social group is an affront to white individuality. But, I digress. The point is that toxic white entitlement is the basis for feeling that they can ignore the problem if some black guy brings it up.
I really don't expect Trump's lily white cult to be, in the least, self-reflective. Their toxic white entitlement has gone into overdrive, thanks to their great leader. Unfortunately. it has even spread to other venues of whiteness, such as gentrified liberal cities and even Canada. The problem is getting worse, not better. All they're doing is reacting to any racial stress that their feeling at any given time by calling the police as if the police was their personal help desk. That's pretty much a dangerous thing, because quite simply, it creates a path by which white people's self-imposed sense of moral authority over black and brown people can transform into legal authority. We've already been there with Jim Crow laws in this country in the past. We've had recent attacks on both the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act by Republicans.
Not only is Roe vs. Wade in jeopardy, so are those two pieces of landmark legislation as well.
We have the potential for a huge widening of the racial divide in this country and toxic white entitlement is the force behind it.
So, the last point that I want to make is the notion that until white people themselves realize that racism is actually a problem of, by and in behalf of white people, the problem is never going to go away. Toxic white entitlement needs to be recognized as a self-defeating phenomenon. With it, white people are quite willing to cut the noses off their own faces rather than confronting the reasons white they're suffering with racially-based stresses. That's not going to be easy, because these same people are completely entitled to ignore history, ignore the fact that they're the primary beneficiaries of a racially stratified society and that moving in this same direction is path by which we can dump America's egalitarianism as descend into despotism.
It's not beyond the realm of possibility.
America was built upon white entitlement, and that hasn't always been a bad thing. White people in this country have always had a sense of self-worth that they can do anything, like build a nation and defeat fascism. Of course, these same people went out of their way to routinely exclude people of color out of that same potential over the years. But, at least some progress was made before the white entitlement turned toxic.
In the present day, things that are filed under "Shit That Only White People Will Do" end up being things like calling the police on black and brown people who are minding their own damn business or ****ing with wild bison. I'm sure that we can do better.
White people need to do better.
That was basically it. Thanks for reading my little rant as it were and I hope that it resonated with you. I'm now going to leave you with a video of some white guy ****ing with a wild bison.
after which a youtube
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Rants from narrow minded bigoted racists like Scorpio X are the reason why race relations are worse now than they were 30 years ago.
And why they won't get better any time soon.
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So the Cliff Note verion of that screed is White people are racist or something. ::)
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So the Cliff Note verion of that screed is White people are racist or something. ::)
And they always have been and they always will be.
Oh yeah...and BLM isn't racist.
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Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism,"
Because it is a one sided rant from all you dissatisfied , disgruntled , racist, hate filled people on the left.
Besides we are F**KING tired of hearing it. nothing we can do other than give it all to you lazy ass holes will ever be enough, and in the end that won't satisfy you either.
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22 replies, 1632 views
Again, another example of reader ennui; that's an abysmally low proportion of primitive comments to the number of primives who've read it.
I'm starting to wonder if perhaps Lamond isn't becoming the second William Rivers Pitt, who's day's been done for a while.
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**** you Lamond. :bird:
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White people need to do better.
And black people don't?
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before I stated my case. But I stopped by the local B&N, and lo and behold, it wasn't even in stock.
The only thing I got out of that case of verbal diarrhea is that Barnes and Noble still has brick and mortar stores.
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... toxic white entitlement, which I believe is not only a present day problem, I'm quite sure that it's been a huge problem since the inception of America.
Well, Mr. Corpulent, if white people supposedly cannot possibly understand black, people, how can a black person like you claim to understand white people?
I wanted to first reference Dr. Robin DiAngelo's newest book, "White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism," before I stated my case. But I stopped by the local B&N, and lo and behold, it wasn't even in stock.
B & N is a store. It sells books to make a profit, and they only make a profit when books sell. If they don't have this book in stock that means they know it will not sell.
Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism
I had zero problems telling my children that racism is wrong and stupid. Years of our choices in churches, friends, and businesses made telling them this almost superfluous. My only mistake was not warning them that some non-whites are racists and act on it; one of my children learned this in an unpleasant way.
The people who voted for him didn't care that 1 he was a corrupt, unstable uncouth, inveterate con man with delusions of grandeur who just happened to be white. They voted for him because he was the one white man who openly embodied their utter contempt for 2 Obama's black excellence.
1 Mr. Corpulent has this reversed. Hillary is all that Mr. Corpulent imagines Trump to be.
2 Obama was not excellent, in any color.
The thing is that Trump, without his wealth, is nothing more than an incompetent, mediocre asshole ...
Ummmmm, Trump didn't inherit his entire wealth. His father was a successful and wealthy NYC businessman. Donald Trump inherited that, obviously, but multiplied his father's business 100- or 1000-fold into several international businesses. If that's "incompetence" and "mediocrity" the US could use far more of it. But, again and of course, Mr. Corpulent has reality reversal: it is Hillary who has few or no accomplishments in her own right - she rode Bill's coat tails into the Senate, with zero experience - and who is a bumbling incompetent.
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Again, another example of reader ennui; that's an abysmally low proportion of primitive comments to the number of primives who've read it.
I'm starting to wonder if perhaps Lamond isn't becoming the second William Rivers Pitt, who's day's been done for a while.
There are several reasons for the poor response.
1. it is over 3 sentences long
2. It doesn't have the word F**king at least 2 times in every sentence.
3. It doesn't mention reichwingers, Trump humpers, or MAGA
4. It isn't the usual hate filled screed that they post.
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We all knew it would be race. He can't write about anything else. He has one playbook with one play.
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>White people need to do better.
And you need to get a brain, Moran.
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The only thing I got out of that case of verbal diarrhea is that Barnes and Noble still has brick and mortar stores.
Me too, only I thought they didn't even exist.
So one point for lamont for being aware of at least one arcane, meaningless fact.
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What a racist asshole. I wish I knew him in real life, I’d piss him off every single day.
KC
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22 replies, 1668 views
:-)
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Wow, what an insightful rant Mizzcorpio........not.
His rant in emojis :blah: :blah: :blah: :beathorse:
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So the Cliff Note verion of that screed is White people are racist or something. ::)
The real truth to his rant is the dem lost the last election and the dummie cannot accept the fact that obumbles policies were the cause.
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Okay folks, so tell me; make a good guess.
Who's gonna be Lamond's choice for U.S. Senator from Michigan this election?
The incumbent white woman or the challenger black dude?
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Okay folks, so tell me; make a good guess.
Who's gonna be Lamond's choice for U.S. Senator from Michigan this election?
The incumbent white woman or the challenger black dude?
He'll back the white woman frank. Remember my hypothesis about Dorkio...he HATES the fact he was born black, he WISHES he was white. He has race envy.
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The constant attempted proxy murders of black people by the police by whites is just the Trump cultists' way of exercising some self-appointed moral authority over our existence.
Black people getting murdered by other black people seems like an actual problem.
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Black people getting murdered by other black people seems like actual problem.
Even the reliably liberal Politifact acknowledges this. (https://www.politifact.com/florida/article/2015/may/21/updated-look-statistics-black-black-murders/) >90% of murders of blacks where the murderer's race is known are committed by blacks. That's higher than even I expected, since blacks are just ~1/8 of the US population.
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22 replies, 1682 views
It's a bust; nobody's even looked at it the past several hours.
Lamond's got to learn to let something be deemed awesome by his reading public, before he presumes to announce it's awesome.
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And black people don't?
Remember it is un-possible for blacks to get good jobs, because, white people. Be racist, because, well, they are black and white people.
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22 replies, 1690 views
Well, here it is, two days later.
Lamond's been a bust.....again.
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What a racist asshole. I wish I knew him in real life, I’d piss him off every single day.
I would pay money to watch that!
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22 replies, 1693 views
Well, here it is, some hours later, and there's been only one additional person who's read the thread in all that time.
And the odds are it's been.....I.
Lamond's got to figure out what interests his readers--it sure ain't the race issue--and write to fulfill that preference.
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Well, here it is, some hours later, and there's been only one additional person who's read the thread in all that time.
And the odds are it's been.....I.
Lamond's got to figure out what interests his readers--it sure ain't the race issue--and write to fulfill that preference.
Yeah frank, he's lost a lot of his "luster" among the denizens of the DUmp.
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Well, after about twelve hours, bean brain's rant:
200 replies, 3059 views
After about four days, MrsCorpio's long-awaited rant:
22 replies, 1707 views
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Well, my my,
Lamond's numbers since 4:00 p.m. Monday
22 replies, 1710 views
bean brain's numbers since 9:00 p.m. Thursday
244 replies, 3819 views
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Yeah frank, he's lost a lot of his "luster" among the denizens of the DUmp.
I would say something about turds.............
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Mr. Corpulent has gotten more responses to his rant here in the Cave than he did on DU. Maybe he should post here if attention-getting matters to him (which his advance advertisement for his rant seems to indicate).