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There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« on: May 21, 2013, 03:04:48 PM »
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IRS Official Lois Lerner Will Plead The 5th Amendment

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Lois Lerner, the official in charge of the exempt organizations division at center of the targeting scandal plaguing the Internal Revenue Service, invoked the Fifth Amendment on Tuesday, refusing to testify before a House oversight hearing this week.

“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” an attorney for Lerner told committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) in a letter obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

Since she intends not to answer questions, the letter requests Lerner be exempt from the hearing since her appearance would “have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her.”

Lerner initially revealed during a Q&A session in Washington that Internal Revenue Service agents at the Cincinnati branch office improperly scrutinized conservative non-profit groups for additional reviews from 2010 to 2012. Lerner only recently disclosed that the question was planted, however.

Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/irs-official-lois-lerner-will-plead-5th-amendment

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1. Well done , Ms. Lerner

**** those republicans in their greasy assholes

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2. She would be insane not to. nt

If there is no scandal and if everything is above board, necessary and part of the day-to-day proper functioning of government why is she claiming she might incriminate herself?

She should be proud of her work defending the nation's legitimate interests.

Right?

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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 03:10:51 PM »
I'd say that's the first sign of guilt.
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 03:15:00 PM »
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blast off - blame Pres O!

I wish the corporate media would just verify that progressive non-profit groups were targeted also.

Ms. Lerner is a GOPer alongwith her hubby.
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 03:46:05 PM »
Umm hate to tell you lol yah but from the testimony already given I believe they squirmed and pretty much admitted nothin with the name progressive or organized was scrutinized. I do so hope your party withers for decades over this tremendous abuse o power. You've confirmed yourselves to be power hungry corrupt boot lickers who will stop at nothin to get their way. For all your finger pointin at the rich and capitalism it is you that oil the cogs in the machine of oppression and corruption. You all suck!!! I hope the next few decades politically and culturally are miserable for each and every one of you.
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 03:46:50 PM »
Going to be a hard year to be a DUmmie.  I hope the majority of them take the easy way out, especially that useless Carney ****er.  I hope he "Bud Dwyer's" himself at a daily press conference.
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2013, 03:58:06 PM »
Let me just borrow your thread to briefly post some Ras headlines today.

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Voters Now Trust GOP More on Ethics and Corruption

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Voters Think Benghazi or IRS Most Likely to Still Be Major News A Year From Now

And this has flipped, seemingly overnight. 6 point jump or so:
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Generic Congressional Ballot: Republicans 40%, Democrats 39%

One more; this had been stubbornly at 50/50:

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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 47% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) now disapprove.

That's a 3-day rolling average.
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 04:08:24 PM »
Is it a common tactic for innocent people to plead the fifth during questioning under oath?  Just sayin..
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 04:25:47 PM »
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10. and we would be up in arms

calling for heads to roll in investigations and impeachment if it had happened to us.

Haven't you ever heard, nice guys finish last--especially at democratunderground.  Enjoy your granite cookie, disruptor who disrupted poorly.
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 05:34:26 PM »
Hate to break reality to the DUches but leftist groups and anyone cozy with 0bama got their applications processed immediately. In fact 0's brother got his done retroactively while operating illegally for years in about three minutes.

Yes, 0bama's finger prints are all over this and could cost him both houses of Congress.
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 05:52:22 PM »
So, she takes the "Ollie North" defense.

How quaint.   :mental:
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2013, 08:52:49 PM »
Good Lord, all this guy is missing from this screed is chicken wire...

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22. This whole thing is an intricate, 'long con' Rovian setup ...

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I don't buy for ONE SECOND that this 'scandal' has anything remotely to do with Obama or the Dems trying to harm their 'political enemies' by denying them NP status. Obama is getting 'Dan Rather'd here.

I think Lois has been working for ROVE. And the people at the IRS would did this targeting were also working for ROVE.

IOW, this whole thing is political theater. Rove told her to plead the Fifth to try to make Obama look bad/guilty, and so she won't have to be grilled by Dems at the hearing. That's right, I think she's going to take the 5th because the people running this scam are actually afraid of the Democrat's questions, not the GOP's questions.

I think the Dems in the Congress are soon going to start figuring out exactly what's actually happened here. The IG admitting under oath the Issa ordered this probe (and that he's been getting updated on it all along) are enough to show ME that the reality of things here are a far cry from the way they're actually being reported on, and the congressional Dems aren't idiots. They're going to put 2+2 together here, in part because they know what a snake Issa really is!

And I'm also guessing that the DoJ is right now investigating whether or not this whole thing was a conspiracy to make sure the IRS won't scrutinize these groups anymore .. in particular, Crossroad's GPS's application for non-profit status ... and to try to tarnish Obama.

I'd also bet any amount there's no actual law on the books that says that the IRS can't do exactly what they (apparently) did. IOW, I don't believe she has any legit reason to 'plead the Fifth', because I don't believe there's anything she can possibly be 'charged' with.

If there WAS any 'law' against the IRS doing what it did, the absolute most key question would be ... was the RATIO of 'addt'l reviews' HIGHER for TP groups than it mathematically should have been


Notice, though, that the media still to this day has not informed us whether the number of additional reviews ordered against Tea-Party groups shows 'bias' to a statistically significant degree. Nor is there any mention of the importance of this ratio, and certainly no reportage on what the ratio actually WAS.

Instead you have to find little blurbs of congressional testimony they (maybe) throw in their articles to even find out what the count of the scrutinized teabag groups vs the total # of scrutinized groups was.

Lastly, have you noticed that the MSM won't ever tell us the PERCENT of Teabagger groups that actually got addt'l review? Know why? Because that number, along w/the numbers we already know, would allow people with a modicum of stats knowledge to determine for themselves whether the numbers necessarily suggest 'bias'.

I'm telling ya, this whole thing is bullshit, man, and stinks to high heaven of Rovian trickery, along with MSM collusion.
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2013, 10:14:06 PM »
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4. 5...4...3...2...1

blast off - blame Pres O!

I wish the corporate media would just verify that progressive non-profit groups were targeted also.

Ms. Lerner is a GOPer alongwith her hubby.

Um, if that were true, she wouldn't have gotten all those bonuses from the 0bama administration and a promotion by the same administration. Oh, and she'd be scapegoated instead of being allowed to plead the 5th. The administration would turn on her so fast it would make your head spin. Instead, she's trusted SO much, she's promoted to running the 0bamacare collection division.

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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2013, 01:31:46 AM »
Quote from: FaC on May 21, 2013, 08:52:49 PM
Good Lord, all this guy is missing from this screed is chicken wire...

The cult of worship in that one is mind-numbing.  Surely that's a mole.  Please say yes. 
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2013, 07:40:26 AM »
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22. This whole thing is an intricate, 'long con' Rovian setup ...

brett, if you're a mole, then carry on, but if you're a real DUmbass you may want to up your medication.  Judging by that rant the meds aren't helping much.   :mental:
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Re: There is no scandal & even if there were bitches had it coming
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2013, 07:49:05 AM »
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“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” an attorney for Lerner told committee


Balderdash.  If he really believed that, there wouldn't be any reason for her to invoke.
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