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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Alpha Mare on October 24, 2009, 06:40:20 AM
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But...but...I thought they hated Christmas?
lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 12:14 AM
Original message
How will America be able to afford Christmas? (if anything)
Not an anti-Christmas OP.
Just happened to go to Home Depot Today.. all Christmas junk is on shelves and ready to go.. even before Halloween. Ditto for Wal-Mart.
There are no jobs. The banks took the tarp funds and horded them.. they are not lending.
Washington is more interested in starting wars than putting America to work.
How can anyone buy anything for Christmas.. when they can't afford daily food?
Maybe there is a dis-connect in Washington. Like when George Bush Senior went to the grocery store and he was AMAZED at scanners. "You mean.. this is how middle-class people buy groceries?"
Our elected 'leaders' in Washington are SO FAR removed from reality.. I don't think they have a clue as to what is going on in their district.
A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 12:17 AM
Response to Original message
1. You're aware that unemployment is not 100%, right?
How can anyone buy anything for Christmas.. when they can't afford daily food?
With a comment like that, I have my doubts.
A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #2
9. You've got my respect for at least saying so, Nadin.
Why is it that so many DU'rs seem to think the end is nigh because unemployment is at 10%? Even if they insist on a higher figure of 20%, that means 80% are still working, earning money and paying taxes.
FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #20
60. Kinda affraid to say it - but this has been my BEST year ever
I know I feel horrible for all the folks I've seen laid off (1300 workers) but I've already topped 100K in wages for the year and MORE projects are starting
That'll piss off a few DUmwits.
AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #9
30. The problem is there are a significant number of DUers unemployed
and they have been looking for work for a significant amount of time.
When you spend each day looking to see if you are qualified for a job in your area and you can't find anything you become very frustrated.
There is also a significant other group of DUers who are underemployed.
It really is hard to see signs of a recovery, when everyday you look in the help wanted section and it looks like the day before and you know you are on a ticking clock where your unemployment benefits will expire.
There's also a significant number of DUers that refuse to work.
A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #30
35. For better or worse, DU is not an accurate representation of the electorate..
for any number of reasons. Primarily (in my opinion, anyway) because the regular posters are made up of people who enjoy posting on message boards and have the time and inclination to post here. I know many, many other Dems and progressives who have never heard of DU and use the internet for Email, research of a personal nature and little else.
The membership of Democratic Underground and their respective employment situations are not an accurate portrayal of the state of the American workforce and the condition of Americans at large.
If one was to assume it was an accurate portrayal or even a statistically accurate sampling, by reading this website regularly one could surmise that hardly anyone makes more than $30,000 a year in this country, every single Democrat hates anyone making more than them, all published government statistics are outright and deliberate lies, the entire financial industry is out to personally **** them over, etc. etc. etc.
The problem is there are a significant number of DUers unemployed and they have been looking for work for a significant amount of time.
Yes, that's a problem. But it isn't an insurmountable one nor is it one that is going to exist forever. Don't underestimate your fellow posters and don't underestimate the American people. As I've said before, nations and peoples have done so in the past at their own peril.
They go on to discuss Bloomingdale's vs. Macy's. Me thinks they really shop at Wal-Mart.
And then-
dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #32
33. actually- materialism is what BUILT america.
consumer society? remember?
AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #33
34. Actually making crap and selling crap to each other is what built America
Edited on Sat Oct-24-09 01:30 AM by AllentownJake
We got a good credit score and now we are living off of debt. Now servicing each other is what makes America, America.
A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 01:41 AM
Response to Reply #34
39. You've GOT to be kidding.
Actually making crap and selling crap to each other is what built America
So the Railroad infrastructure is crap? The Highways? The ports? Everything? Is that really your opinion? That this country was built on crap?
I know times are tough in Allentown, but perhaps you should get out of Eastern PA for a while and see a bit more of the country.
And there it is:
AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #46
48. I'm 30
I'm an accountant. The first job I was hired to out of college was with Arthur Anderson during the Enron fiasco. My offer was rescinded when the firm went bankrupt and I ended up working in a 10-80-10 program for a fortune 500 financial services firm. I lived in CT,IN, and NC while I was working for that firm. I moved to a regional accounting firm that was being investigated by the Feds 3 months after I was hired. From there I worked in Health Insurance till I was targeted for a lay-off. I'll give you 3 guesses why I was targeted. There was a picture of me and the President shaking hands and he was attacking my parent company.
I've worked on 3 political campaigns as a volunteer and realized that I would have more of a politicians attention on an issue with a check than I ever would from volunteering for them.
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How will America be able to afford Christmas?
Same way I do every year. Set money aside for presents...start buying early...and use eBay.
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I've been reading the postings by the Little Goons, then going out to locate the soup lines. What I found was 65,000 people lining up to buy $9 beers at a U2 concert.
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For Winter Soltice this year, I'm sending out healing white light to most people and pictures of hands to the really special ones.......... :rotf:
So much for the DUmmie Christmas spririt.
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There are no jobs. The banks took the tarp funds and horded them.. they are not lending.
Hmmmmm, I work part time as a hardware expert for Home De Pott. We're hiring 5 newbies here in the next week! Guess it really sucks where this dUmbass lives! We been sellin' the crap outa the new animated stuffed Christmas animals! Hahahahaha! We have a Santa beachcomber that dances to the Beach Boys "Wipe out" that's just the "Bee's Knees"!!!! It's cuter than a "Bugs Ear"! My grandaughter just luvs it! Oh that and TinkerBell in a snowstorm music globe! Can't forget TinkerBell for goodness sake!
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Didn't The Surfaris do Wipe Out?
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Hmmmmm, I work part time as a hardware expert for Home De Pott. We're hiring 5 newbies here in the next week! Guess it really sucks where this dUmbass lives! We been sellin' the crap outa the new animated stuffed Christmas animals! Hahahahaha! We have a Santa beachcomber that dances to the Beach Boys "Wipe out" that's just the "Bee's Knees"!!!! It's cuter than a "Bugs Ear"! My grandaughter just luvs it! Oh that and TinkerBell in a snowstorm music globe! Can't forget TinkerBell for goodness sake!
We just hired a network admin, two customer service reps, a mid-level sales executive, and we still have openings for some more paper pushers. The trucking business is doing reasonably well.
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NO magic Skittle pooping unicorns for you! [/soupnazi]
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Hey DU, enjoy the FREE PWNAGE!!! :evillaugh: How's that 8% unemployment and free everything workin' out for ya?
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If one was to assume it was an accurate portrayal or even a statistically accurate sampling, by reading this website regularly one could surmise that hardly anyone makes more than $30,000 a year in this country, every single Democrat hates anyone making more than them, all published government statistics are outright and deliberate lies, the entire financial industry is out to personally **** them over, etc. etc. etc.
Great post by the heretic. He knows his fellow DUmmies! I wonder what the true unemployment rate is at the DUmp.
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Maybe that $250 that big O is giving to SS recipients will help for Crimmas.
:lmao:
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Didn't The Surfaris do Wipe Out?
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2ege0ed.jpg)
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The DUmmies are beginning to realize that the years they wasted on some stupid college degree that has no real world value and won't even get them a job at McDonalds.
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Hey DU, enjoy the FREE PWNAGE!!! :evillaugh: How's that 8% unemployment and free everything workin' out for ya?
Its close to 10%, officially.
FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #20
60. Kinda affraid to say it - but this has been my BEST year ever
I know I feel horrible for all the folks I've seen laid off (1300 workers) but I've already topped 100K in wages for the year and MORE projects are starting
HHmmm, is this a donating member?
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #30
35. For better or worse, DU is not an accurate representation of the electorate..
I thank God that DU is not an accurate representation of the electorate.
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Just where in hell do your (Gators) foul mouthed limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogant SOB is becoming unbearable and is fast becoming a dogmatic censor of my posts.
Just where in hell does your (Gators)foul mouthed,insufferable
limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogans SOB is becoming unbearable
He attempts to dictate to me what and when I may post but only
if it is to his liking .He is a hinderance to me and I am sure many others.
Any legitamate derogative posts having to do with that Socialistic,Islamic Wonderland of the Peoples Republic of the late great UK he pounces on.
I would expect disagreement with any of my comments or my stated opinions but this is beyond the acceptable.Even in his worst days the Gator was never this dogmatic .
I fear that if he continues unabated in has actions he will drive posters
from this site !
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Just where in hell do your (Gators) foul mouthed limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogant SOB is becoming unbearable and is fast becoming a dogmatic censor of my posts.
Just where in hell does your (Gators)foul mouthed,insufferable
limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogans SOB is becoming unbearable
He attempts to dictate to me what and when I may post but only
if it is to his liking .He is a hinderance to me and I am sure many others.
Any legitamate derogative posts having to do with that Socialistic,Islamic Wonderland of the Peoples Republic of the late great UK he pounces on.
I would expect disagreement with any of my comments or my stated opinions but this is beyond the acceptable.Even in his worst days the Gator was never this dogmatic .
I fear that if he continues unabated in has actions he will drive posters
from this site !
What the hell are you smoking Megi?
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Just where in hell do your (Gators) foul mouthed limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogant SOB is becoming unbearable and is fast becoming a dogmatic censor of my posts.
Just where in hell does your (Gators)foul mouthed,insufferable
limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogans SOB is becoming unbearable
He attempts to dictate to me what and when I may post but only
if it is to his liking .He is a hinderance to me and I am sure many others.
Any legitamate derogative posts having to do with that Socialistic,Islamic Wonderland of the Peoples Republic of the late great UK he pounces on.
I would expect disagreement with any of my comments or my stated opinions but this is beyond the acceptable.Even in his worst days the Gator was never this dogmatic .
I fear that if he continues unabated in has actions he will drive posters
from this site !
Megi try posting this on the right message board, your target will likely not see it here.
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Just where in hell do your (Gators) foul mouthed limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogant SOB is becoming unbearable and is fast becoming a dogmatic censor of my posts.
Just where in hell does your (Gators)foul mouthed,insufferable
limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogans SOB is becoming unbearable
He attempts to dictate to me what and when I may post but only
if it is to his liking .He is a hinderance to me and I am sure many others.
Any legitamate derogative posts having to do with that Socialistic,Islamic Wonderland of the Peoples Republic of the late great UK he pounces on.
I would expect disagreement with any of my comments or my stated opinions but this is beyond the acceptable.Even in his worst days the Gator was never this dogmatic .
I fear that if he continues unabated in has actions he will drive posters
from this site !
Do you have a specific thread in mind?? Are you drunk, stoned or just confused?? Gator is NOT affiliated with the management of this site. I'm fairly certain he isn't even a member here, but I could be wrong on that.
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-24-09 05:49 PM
Response to Original message
90. I'm amazed how your OP was turned into an all america
****ed up shopping spree.
In my mind anyone without a job and can't find one and is on the edge or has found some job but needs two now and then some , this is a depression.
For those who posted that they are doing so well , this is just another day. I guess you could say you are the ones who watched as everyone elses jobs were shipped over seas and said nothing because it did not affect you. You just went along for the cheap wally world deals as the norm. I seriously doubt the few of you here represent the reality many others face.
For those in fear of losing their job this is a recession.
Yeah, you should have quit your jobs in a show of solidarity.
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Yeah, you should have quit your jobs in a show of solidarity.
Hasn't worked enough to qualify for unemployment......yet.
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Just where in hell do your (Gators) foul mouthed limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogant SOB is becoming unbearable and is fast becoming a dogmatic censor of my posts.
Just where in hell does your (Gators)foul mouthed,insufferable
limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogans SOB is becoming unbearable
He attempts to dictate to me what and when I may post but only
if it is to his liking .He is a hinderance to me and I am sure many others.
Any legitamate derogative posts having to do with that Socialistic,Islamic Wonderland of the Peoples Republic of the late great UK he pounces on.
I would expect disagreement with any of my comments or my stated opinions but this is beyond the acceptable.Even in his worst days the Gator was never this dogmatic .
I fear that if he continues unabated in has actions he will drive posters
from this site !
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7617/64885342.jpg)
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I thank God that DU is not an accurate representation of the electorate.
I thank God that DU is not an accurate representation of human beings in general, Americans in particular....
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Just where in hell do your (Gators) foul mouthed limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogant SOB is becoming unbearable and is fast becoming a dogmatic censor of my posts.
Just where in hell does your (Gators)foul mouthed,insufferable
limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogans SOB is becoming unbearable
He attempts to dictate to me what and when I may post but only
if it is to his liking .He is a hinderance to me and I am sure many others.
Any legitamate derogative posts having to do with that Socialistic,Islamic Wonderland of the Peoples Republic of the late great UK he pounces on.
I would expect disagreement with any of my comments or my stated opinions but this is beyond the acceptable.Even in his worst days the Gator was never this dogmatic .
I fear that if he continues unabated in has actions he will drive posters
from this site !
Hey, megs, don't have a cow here about something that happened at our old home.
We like having you here, and are generally illuminated and enlightened by your participation, but don't blame us for something going on over there.
Yell at them, not us. We're nice guys here.
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I have gotten goofed up responding to threads in the past and also by having different browser tabs open at the same time.
It happens and the bigger picture of ones contributions wins out. :)
In response to the OP it is very telling that one of their own has to point out that they really don`t matter in the scheme of things. :cheersmate:
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What's really bad is when you think you're typing out a PM
and hit send only to realize later you posted it in the open. :panic:
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Or the dreaded 'reply all' email!
:ohnoes:
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Or the dreaded 'reply all' email!
:ohnoes:
I've done that at work a couple times.
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I've done that at work a couple times.
Wow. I would be fired I'm sure. I work with some real morans who just love mass emails. I and a couple friends have no problem highlighting specific stupidity, often using colorful language and pretty pictures. Fortunately, IT turns a blind eye, and has even been known to join in on the fun.
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I've done that at work a couple times.
That cost a guy a job at my work once. He used the company wide email list and the founder and CEO got his joke email. He was escorted into the manager's office that same afternoon and then out the building by closing. :thatsright:
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Kinda funny when that happens from the top down though. The CEO of a rather large public company I happen to know quite well recently replied to a notice from the building property manager that they were having some trouble with the AC again.....he accidently hit 'reply all' and proceeded to take off on a big rant and rail against the building people that went out to every tenant in the 12 story building (including me)....oopsy!
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After reading the primitives fret jobs it makes me wonder about someone......
I wonder where StellaBlue is working now? :rotf:
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I betcha all didn't realize that there was video of this whole "debate" over at the DUmp:
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Just where in hell do your (Gators) foul mouthed limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogant SOB is becoming unbearable and is fast becoming a dogmatic censor of my posts.
Just where in hell does your (Gators)foul mouthed,insufferable
limey mods get off locking my post ?This arrogans SOB is becoming unbearable
He attempts to dictate to me what and when I may post but only
if it is to his liking .He is a hinderance to me and I am sure many others.
Any legitamate derogative posts having to do with that Socialistic,Islamic Wonderland of the Peoples Republic of the late great UK he pounces on.
I would expect disagreement with any of my comments or my stated opinions but this is beyond the acceptable.Even in his worst days the Gator was never this dogmatic .
I fear that if he continues unabated in has actions he will drive posters
from this site !
Should I cut, paste and post this in the lounge at CU? :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
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Should I cut, paste and post this in the lounge at CU? :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
That would be quite funny.
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Sales continue to grow for my company. Not triple digit increases, but sales are still going up, and not down.
The stock I purchased in my company in April is now up 38%. I've had six raises in the past year & my company matches my 401k over 300%.
Sure it can be tough finding a job, but many would rather wait out all the unemployment extensions before they even start to look for a job.
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That would be quite funny.
:-)
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I just piss people off so I don't have to buy them gifts. :evillaugh:
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Aren't we getting ObamaMoney to buy people Christmas presents? The government is turning into a bunch of cheapskates! :bawl:
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I've had six raises in the past year & my company matches my 401k over 300%.
That's great to hear and do they have any openings?
Seriously, outstanding. My company laid off a bunch of people and contracted a bit at the end of 2008, but mostly it was good pruning that needed to be done to get rid of leftover bloat from acquisitions during the boom years. Now we have streamlined operations and I just closed in the last few weeks on a new $1 million dollar facility in east Texas and just wrote another $625,000 contract on another facility in west Texas. We're also about to put in a new location in North Dakota and recently added about 3 new yards in Oklahoma. As RJ says, there is lots of opportunity out there if you are willing to get out and look and work for it rather than stay on the government tit.
I fully believe the American economy will eventually recover on it's own despite the government - because it is just in our nature. Barry's Tzars can cap executive pay all they want - that will only result in the best and brightest moving on to private non-government industries where they will work their capitalist magic and be wildly successful in another industry. Everyone's just kinda been on hold to wait it out to see what direction things would go. But they won't wait forever on Barry to get his act together. They will eventually just change their path to go around him. That is the true nature of the capitalist American business man. Always has been and always will be despite who's in the WH.
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That's great to hear and do they have any openings?
Seriously, outstanding. My company laid off a bunch of people and contracted a bit at the end of 2008, but mostly it was good pruning that needed to be done to get rid of leftover bloat from acquisitions during the boom years. Now we have streamlined operations and I just closed in the last few weeks on a new $1 million dollar facility in east Texas and just wrote another $625,000 contract on another facility in west Texas. We're also about to put in a new location in North Dakota and recently added about 3 new yards in Oklahoma. As RJ says, there is lots of opportunity out there if you are willing to get out and look and work for it rather than stay on the government tit.
I fully believe the American economy will eventually recover on it's own despite the government - because it is just in our nature. Barry's Tzars can cap executive pay all they want - that will only result in the best and brightest moving on to private non-government industries where they will work their capitalist magic and be wildly successful in another industry. Everyone's just kinda been on hold to wait it out to see what direction things would go. But they won't wait forever on Barry to get his act together. They will eventually just change their path to go around him. That is the true nature of the capitalist American business man. Always has been and always will be despite who's in the WH.
Kay, I tend to think that the American ecomony will recover from the Obamination's ****ups, rather quickly in 2013 into 2014.
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We're also about to put in a new location in North Dakota and recently added about 3 new yards in Oklahoma.
That's fantastic. Near Fargo? Bobcat being the main manufacturing presence there, and laying folks off left and right, that area could use some good news for once.
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Kay, I tend to think that the American ecomony will recover from the Obamination's ****ups, rather quickly in 2013 into 2014.
I'll drink to that :cheersmate:
(we need a toast with clinking coffee cups)
Chump - We are putting in a new location in Stanley ND. I think it's a pretty remote area, we are an oil service company. Presently we have locations in Williston, Belfield and Grassy Butte in ND.
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After reading the primitives fret jobs it makes me wonder about someone......
I wonder where StellaBlue is working now? :rotf:
HA HA HA HA HA HA :rofl:
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That's great to hear and do they have any openings?
Seriously, outstanding. My company laid off a bunch of people and contracted a bit at the end of 2008, but mostly it was good pruning that needed to be done to get rid of leftover bloat from acquisitions during the boom years. Now we have streamlined operations and I just closed in the last few weeks on a new $1 million dollar facility in east Texas and just wrote another $625,000 contract on another facility in west Texas. We're also about to put in a new location in North Dakota and recently added about 3 new yards in Oklahoma. As RJ says, there is lots of opportunity out there if you are willing to get out and look and work for it rather than stay on the government tit.
Their version of healthhcare and cap n trade and card check is going to throw some big wrenches into the economy. BTW, what kind of jobs are those (Texas) anyway?
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Oil field jobs.
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Oil field jobs.
Need a security guard?
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Everyone's just kinda been on hold to wait it out to see what direction things would go.
My health plan options are changing. For the past year I was blessed with zero deductable and low co-pays for any thing I needed to have done.
If I choose the best coverage, which takes the most out of my check, will I be punished with the company's portion of the coverage turning into taxable income?
I really don't think that my benefits should be taxed to pay for others that have BETTER coverage that do not work.........
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Didn't The Surfaris do Wipe Out?
Surfin Safaris
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My health plan options are changing. For the past year I was blessed with zero deductable and low co-pays for any thing I needed to have done.
If I choose the best coverage, which takes the most out of my check, will I be punished with the company's portion of the coverage turning into taxable income?
I really don't think that my benefits should be taxed to pay for others that have BETTER coverage that do not work.........
My company actually pushed open enrollment out to January. It sounds like the employer and employee contributions have gone up and they are trying to negotiate better options. Right now I have the same as you, low co-pays and no deductible. I'm a little worried about what it might change to.
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Surfin Safaris
What's that?
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What's that?
A song made famous by the Beach Boy.
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A song made famous by the Beach Boy.
Never heard of them.
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My company actually pushed open enrollment out to January. It sounds like the employer and employee contributions have gone up and they are trying to negotiate better options. Right now I have the same as you, low co-pays and no deductible. I'm a little worried about what it might change to.
It's almost like a gamble. I can opt for a consumer driven plan with at $1000 deductable, then the company loads $500 into a health savings account, so if I just have a few office visits, my costs come out of that account...which is a good deal if you do not go to the doctor very often. But with my luck, just as soon as I pick that, I will start to have some type of health issue! We just found out Oct 1 what our options are, and the deadline is Saturday! I've done the math up, down, backwards, etc.... I'm still not 100% sure which one I am going to choose, I have 3 options, both options use two different providers...so there are now six choices!
It hurts my head. :banghead:
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It hurts my head. :banghead:
I have a two inch thick stack of medical bills I've received since my little episode of heartburn. This includes a sole bill from the hospital for $344,757.41. The hospital bill came with a handy remittance stub and an envelope....which made me laugh.....but I'm getting off track here.
I am banging my head too. The entire concept of insurance and co-pays and thirty-one different billing entities for one man in one hospital for one illness/surgery is mindboggling.
It has taken me almost three months to get clearheaded and emotionally strong enough to attempt to deal with it all. It is overwhelming.
I can handle it now. Shoot, it's what I do (did). But I KNOW it has to be a real problem for folks less equipped than I to tackle this incredible and complicated mess.
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I have a two inch thick stack of medical bills I've received since my little episode of heartburn. This includes a sole bill from the hospital for $344,757.41. The hospital bill came with a handy remittance stub and an envelope....which made me laugh.....but I'm getting off track here.
That is kind of funny.
Hang on there, let me get my wallet out.... thats uh.. $10,000.... $20,000...