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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 18, 2009, 03:55:04 PM
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Oh my.
Everybody remembers, probably, that a couple of months ago, the subway cat found the Love of Her Life.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-18-09 03:58 PM
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Driving me crazy
I began dating jon 2 months or so ago.I didn't know he had a third wheel who is a creepy old dude he was somehow including as if he was part of jon.. This guy comes over here every ****ing night from around 8or 9 till 11 pm..I am getting sick of him.He is not that fun,he is small minded and really doesn't help my relationship with Jon at all.
In fact I think I might tell the third wheel exactly what he is and tell him to back off! Problem is Jon is somehow still attached to this "friend" of his and he can't stand the thought of that curmudgeon Eric not being here.I on the other hand when Eric is here sitting like a toad in the living room,as Jon goes in his room to watch a concert video, I feel like a third wheel by default. Jon and Eric do this routine day after day because they are USED to it.They give me no other reason for doing this.It pisses me off alot.
Everyone I have spoken too says I should TOLERATE this third wheel bull shit,that Jon and Eric are a "package deal" .But funny Jon asked ME out. Not Eric too. I have tolerated to a point.I have tried to put boundaries down a few times now.
Falls on deaf ears because jon can't survive without Eric hanging around like a dried up old bat every night.(Eric is like 56 or so years old grey hair skinny, uncommunicative and lifeless.)
When Eric does NOT come over(working late) Jon and I usually have a good time together. Truth is I want Eric OUT of the picture for a while, so I can enjoy some time with Jon,time for US...
Do I just break up with Jon? Or do I try to get to Eric alone(tough to do somewhat)first and tell him he is INTERFERING,with my relationship with Jon and to back the **** off and stay home for awhile,Than after a week off, maybe on maximum visit Jon 2 days a week?? Is Jon gonna have a conniption if he finds out I told Eric to back off?? Is he in love with the old fart with nothing to offer him or anyone else? And why can't Jon be the **** HONEST about it ,tell me and LET ME GO?
It is very strange Jon does not interact much with Eric,and the 'friendship' looks unhealthy to me,Eric has his little control things he pulls on Jon,to make Jon anxious and guilty and Jon has cussed him out,more than once.Jon seems to be using him for his car and "pays him back" by having him here occupying space. Jon sometimes resists Eric's controlling crap,than if he thinks he has offended Eric he gets depressed and backtracks.There is nothing there you would see in a healthy friendship. Whatever IT is IT is getting old fast and I need IT to STOP.For MY sanity's sake.
Any ideas experiences or info on toxic third wheel crap please share it.
No primitives at the bonfire yet, as it was just lit.
And thanks to Mr. Wiggum for recently reminding me of the subway cat's existence.
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I would hazard to guess that there is more going on with Jon and the "third wheel" than subway kitty knows about. If john has a thing for subway kitty, then Jon has some :censored: sexual appetites. Just sayin'.
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Eric is like 56 or so years old grey hair skinny, uncommunicative and lifeless.
Sounds like UP should start sharpening a wooden stake with Eric's name on it.
Just sayin'.
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The title of the thread begs for mind bleach, thank God it was just your sensational headline-writing license at work. Still, I thought UGP had given up on the female thing entirely, and here it is fretting like a 16-year-old schoolgirl over the fact that some guy (Presumably) wants to spend time with another guy instead of, ummm, "Her." Molto bizarro.
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When she first announced this blue-haired freak, she said he was queer.
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She/he/it did say Jon was gay. So I guess she/he/it should be happy that Jon considers her to be a male. Now she/he/it has to convince Jon that she is more than just a cat.
:mental:
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She/he/it did say Jon was gay. So I guess she/he/it should be happy that Jon considers her to be a male. Now she/he/it has to convince Jon that she is more than just a cat.
:mental:
After seeing a photo of Jon, one can understand how he would be desperate.
But I still think he's taken the "any port in a storm" philosophy way too far.
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sounds like jon is catching from eric and getting a little som-somthing from the panther too.
I suggest they all get tested for STDs ASAP...
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sounds like jon is catching from eric and getting a little som-somthing from the panther too.
I suggest they all get tested for STDs ASAP...
I suggest African witch doctors personally
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This is both unsettling and confusing. He is a homosexual male. The cat, though longing to be a boy cat, is still technically (as far as I know) a human female. With a roster such as this how do things work? If things get..uh...physical...does he treat her like a friend's house in the rural south? If he hits the wrong entrance is his homosexual status reduced? Does he become bisexual? Does the fact that the cat is striving to be male mean that he can still call himself homosexual? If so, wouldn't the fact that the subwaycritter is also striving to be a cat make him guilty of bestiality?
You know, if someone told me twenty years ago that I would one day be wondering about the pairing of a male homosexual and a female who longed to be a male cat I would have called them crazy.
Regardless, I do wish them well. Maybe having a person to care about will help the cat out some.
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You know, if someone told me twenty years ago that I would one day be wondering about the pairing of a male homosexual and a female who longed to be a male cat I would have called them crazy.
You and me both, sir.
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Good grief these people are disgusting!!!
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This is both unsettling and confusing. He is a homosexual male. The cat, though longing to be a boy cat, is still technically (as far as I know) a human female. With a roster such as this how do things work? If things get..uh...physical...does he treat her like a friend's house in the rural south? If he hits the wrong entrance is his homosexual status reduced? Does he become bisexual? Does the fact that the cat is striving to be male mean that he can still call himself homosexual? If so, wouldn't the fact that the subwaycritter is also striving to be a cat make him guilty of bestiality?
You know, if someone told me twenty years ago that I would one day be wondering about the pairing of a male homosexual and a female who longed to be a male cat I would have called them crazy.
Regardless, I do wish them well. Maybe having a person to care about will help the cat out some.
You made me laugh...
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It is very strange Jon does not interact much with Eric,and the 'friendship' looks unhealthy to me
Sounds like her gaydar is up. :rotf:
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Perhaps Eric is Jon's counselor from his halfway house or institution? Maybe he CAN'T be out and about without him.
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Perhaps Eric is Jon's counselor from his halfway house or institution? Maybe he CAN'T be out and about without him.
You know, mama, that could very well be the case.
Remember, primitives tend to omit important details in their tales.
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I suggest African witch doctors personally
You are being reported to the new snitch line.
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The mechanics of this little trio is too mind boggling to contemplate without massive amounts of beer.
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The mechanics of this little trio is too mind boggling to contemplate without massive amounts of beer.
The phrase 'Lucky Pierre' comes to mind.
Eww.
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not so much
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The mechanics of this little trio is too mind boggling to contemplate without massive amounts of beer.
..There is not enough beer - Ive moved on to 151.
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I take it the living space is Jon's as he goes to HIS room with Eric every night.
I wonder if while she sits in livingroom the Boys are not doing some kind of drugs behind closed doors.
If the old fart is his supplier then naturally she will become of little importance to Jon.
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She/he/it is probably hoping its drugs, but then why not share with her/him/it? Maybe they are exploring their inner-um, somethings
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I predict that UGP will soon go from a threesome to a onesome....again.
Love is blind.....has to be in her case.
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The phrase 'Lucky Pierre' comes to mind.
Eww.
Ewww and ewww and double ewww! :rofl:
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Still no replies....Wonder if the "kitties" schtick has finally gotten old for the DUmmies....
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I don't know what "Lucky Pierre" means.
I think nobody has shown up at the fire because they simply don't know what to say to this mess. They probably feel like ChuckJ did on the first page.
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Still no replies....Wonder if the "kitties" schtick has finally gotten old for the DUmmies....
Oh my.
You're right, madam; I just checked, and no primitives, only a lonely bonfire.
Of course, the subway cat posted this in the "mental health" forum on Skins's island; if she had violated my fellow alum Skins's rule and posted it in "general discussion," where all the hip, cool, with it, trendy, primitives hang out, there would probably be lots and lots of comments.
One has to at least give the subway cat credit for this; she follows the rules, usually, about posting in a specific forum instead of making a mess of "general discussion."
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You are being reported to the new snitch line.
Isn't that a direct line to the African witch doctor? :uhsure:
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I don't know what "Lucky Pierre" means.
You don't wanna know. By comparison, that DUmmy foot photo the other day was sexy.
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You don't wanna know. By comparison, that DUmmy foot photo the other day was sexy.
DOGGONEIT!!!!!!!!!! Now I gotta go google it. :bawl:
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It wasn't as bad as I thought, but then again I didn't google image it.
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I don't know why it should be so surprised. I've never met an alley cat that didn't spread its seed around. Being a cat you'd think it would understand this. Maybe UP just needs to start peeing on the furniture to mark its territory.
Cindie
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=276x9662
Oh my.
Everybody remembers, probably, that a couple of months ago, the subway cat found the Love of Her Life.
No primitives at the bonfire yet, as it was just lit.
And thanks to Mr. Wiggum for recently reminding me of the subway cat's existence.
LOL, that's rich, subway cat discussing anybody else's "weirdness" and their unhealthy relationships.
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Good grief these people are disgusting!!!
Amen!!!! And they'll trample over bodies to be first in line for you and me and other productive citizens to pay for the heinous diseases to which they willfully exposed themselves. Sick sick sick, trying to create all combinations except the only one our Creator sanctioned--one man and one woman in a marriage.
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It wasn't as bad as I thought, but then again I didn't google image it.
Oh, wow! Now we have to know what you thought! This should really be good.
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I don't know why it should be so surprised. I've never met an alley cat that didn't spread its seed around. Being a cat you'd think it would understand this. Maybe UP just needs to start peeing on the furniture to mark its territory.
Cindie
Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! Now THAT"S funny!
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She finally did get one reply, from Forkboy. He gave her a long-ish boring piece on relationship advice (which is always boring.) I skimmed thru it, all the while thinking "he's taking these two seriously?"
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I hope U.P. finds happiness in life.
Sure she/he/it is messed up beyond all reality, but I think that she/he/it is a harmless, confused, in-pain...cat person...who...deserves...
...something.
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I hope U.P. finds happiness in life.
Sure she/he/it is messed up beyond all reality, but I think that she/he/it is a harmless, confused, in-pain...cat person...who...deserves...
...something.
Rat poison, perhaps?
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Rat poison, perhaps?
Hairballs?
Distemper?
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The subway cat finds a kindred soul, the forked primitive, who doesn't know excresence about sports:
Forkboy (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-19-09 12:25 PM
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1. I'm the last person who should give advice on relationships....
But here I go anyways....
In your place I wouldn't set any kind of ultimatum, as they tend to either backfire and drive the other person away, or you get to the point where you realize you won't follow through and have to backoff yourself. And I find ultimatums confrontational when that's really the last angle to approach this from. Anytime someone gives me one it's a sure fire way to get the exact opposite reaction from the one they want (I am a pain in the ass, after all).
What I would do is tell Jon nicely, but in no uncertain terms, exactly what you're feeling (and what you said here). Let him know how much it bothers you that you don't feel the two of you have enough time together on your own. Letting him know that you're approaching this out of love for him more than jealousy towards Eric won't put him on the defensive as much (he will be anyways, most likely, no matter how you approach this, but you can lessen the effect).
It's tough for Jon as well, assuming Eric is such a good friend. Until you came along Eric may have been one of the only people Jon felt he could be comfortable around. It's tough to give that up, even a little, as it may be the only situation like that Jon had (I'm just guessing here, and you clearly know if this is the case or not better than I).
Breaking up, at least for now, seems like it will only hurt both of you needlessly. Even the threat of doing so, if voiced to Jon, could undermine what you two have, even more than this guy Eric is. It plants the seed that you're willing to walk away, and often that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy once that seed is planted. Suddenly the other person will feel that you're looking for reasons to leave instead of reasons to stay.
There are times in life where walking away does become the only option left, love or not. My ex left me despite the fact that we never once argued or raised our voices or anything like that. She still loves me, but the depression, untreated at the time, was just too much for her to take anymore. Understandably. But sometimes it does get the point where you have to do what's best in the long run for yourself, even if it hurts to do so. However, I don't think that should ever be the first option, and I don't think you're at that point yet.
And now that I've broken my rule on never meddling in other people's relationships, good luck.
And then the sequel:
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-19-09 04:18 PM
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2. Thanks
Basically what you said is what I am doing.I let them both know I need them to not see each other everyday. I needed space from eric if I was having a crisis or if I was in severe pain or sick.Eric seemed to understand that. I also told Jon about my insecurity,today,I owned up to it said why I felt it. He I think got what I meant.
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-19-09 12:25 PM
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1. I'm the last person who should give advice on relationships....
But here I go anyways....
Yeah, that's pretty much all you need to know about DU.
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Yeah, that's pretty much all you need to know about DU.
:rotf:
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-19-09 12:25 PM
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1. I'm the last person who should give advice on ANYTHING....
But here I go anyways....
Fixed. And that goes for almost every DUmmy.