Author Topic: What is it with Republicans and any kind of new technology? (Read 3587 times)

GOBUCKS · « **Reply #25 on:** February 06, 2011, 04:35:05 PM »

Quote from: Randy on February 06, 2011, 09:45:00 AM

They hooked a generator to our landfills methane a year or so ago. It should be good for a long long time. The dump has only got a few more years of permitted operation left in it before they have to move.

And maintenance on that half-assed little generator will cost a hundred times more than the same power generated at a normal plant. A far better use of methane at landfills is to simply flare it off - if it's really a problem, which it isn't.

zeitgeist · « **Reply #26 on:** February 06, 2011, 04:52:05 PM »

Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 06, 2011, 12:37:26 PM

How many incandescent light bulbs have ya broke inside your home? No big deal, just sweep up the glass. Now, what if they had one of the deadliest poisons known to mankind inside them? Mercury is not somethin' ya want layin' around in your house after ya break one of these bulbs no matter how small a quantity it is! Especially with pets and kids runnin' around!

If we broke fluorescents at the HD, we had to treat it like Haz Mat. What are we gonna do, have a Hazardous Material recycle bin in every home? Boy don't that sound like a good idea!

If you broke one in a Naval Nuclear Facility it made that look like a Sunday social. Not good for reactor components, not at all. They went nuts with tape and probes and bunny suits.

Sparky, do you remember the pipe line they put down RT 16 to carry the methane from the landfill to UNH? I kept wondering how much boost it was going to take to get it there. I don't figure it is under all that much pressure coming out of the ground.

GOBUCKS · « **Reply #27 on:** February 06, 2011, 05:02:35 PM »

Quote from: zeitgeist on February 06, 2011, 04:52:05 PM

Sparky, do you remember the pipe line they put down RT 16 to carry the methane from the landfill to UNH? I kept wondering how much boost it was going to take to get it there. I don't figure it is under all that much pressure coming out of the ground.

Exactly. The wackos went nuts over methane at an abandoned landfill near me until Clinton's nutty EPA put in a series of pipes to flare it off. They spent several hundred thousand dollars on it. Then, of course, the tiny volume of methane pissing out of the dump wouldn't support a flame. So, they ran a natural gas line to the dump and flared natural gas so the wackos could see that fire and be happy. The property was covered with briars and pokeweed, and a great place to rabbit hunt until we lost it to all the EPA earthmoving and cyclone fencing.

delilahmused · « **Reply #28 on:** February 06, 2011, 05:51:18 PM »

I can't believe they can't see the irony in calling windmills new technology. Ancient cultures used them to crush grains. You'd think one of the history experts (especially those well-versed in the history of the middle east because there's archeological evidence from ANCIENT PERSIA) would clue them in so they wouldn't show the entire fricking networked world how totally stupid they are.

Cindie

compaqxp · « **Reply #29 on:** February 07, 2011, 02:28:24 PM »

Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 05, 2011, 12:47:51 PM

Wind farms = incredibly expensive, unreliable electricity from horribly ugly, land-gobbling windmills
High speed rail = bottomless money pit to operate empty trains
Compact fluorescent bulbs = dim, slowly brightening light from exorbitantly expensive bulbs that won't work in many fixtures

I agree with you on High speed rail and CFLs but not Wind farms. I'm sure not everywhere does them the same but here a large wind farm was just put up. They used land that was not fit to grow crops and was undeveloped, basically land that wasn't very usable now has a use. They also run almost all the time, are very reliable and don't look that bad where they've been put.

Texacon · « **Reply #30 on:** February 07, 2011, 02:41:25 PM »

Quote from: compaqxp on February 07, 2011, 02:28:24 PM

I agree with you on High speed rail and CFLs but not Wind farms. I'm sure not everywhere does them the same but here a large wind farm was just put up. They used land that was not fit to grow crops and was undeveloped, basically land that wasn't very usable now has a use. They also run almost all the time, are very reliable and don't look that bad where they've been put.

And they are absolutely horrible for migratory (and other) birds.

KC

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #31 on:** February 07, 2011, 02:59:52 PM »

Quote from: delilahmused on February 06, 2011, 05:51:18 PM

I can't believe they can't see the irony in calling windmills new technology. Ancient cultures used them to crush grains. You'd think one of the history experts (especially those well-versed in the history of the middle east because there's archeological evidence from ANCIENT PERSIA) would clue them in so they wouldn't show the entire fricking networked world how totally stupid they are.

Cindie

Even using giant ones with propellor-like blades for electrical generation dates back to an FDR-era experiment at Mt. Washington.

compaqxp · « **Reply #32 on:** February 07, 2011, 04:02:43 PM »

Quote from: Texacon on February 07, 2011, 02:41:25 PM

And they are absolutely horrible for migratory (and other) birds.

KC

I can't imagine coal plants are good for birds... The pros outweigh the cons with wind mills in my opinion.

BlueStateSaint · « **Reply #33 on:** February 07, 2011, 04:09:20 PM »

Personally, I want it all used. Nuke plants. Natural gas plants. Wind farms. Solar farms. Especially coal plants. Even wood-fired plants (they're called "biomass," and the South has a lot of forests to use for these).

AllosaursRus · « **Reply #34 on:** February 07, 2011, 04:24:30 PM »

Quote from: compaqxp on February 07, 2011, 04:02:43 PM

I can't imagine coal plants are good for birds... The pros outweigh the cons with wind mills in my opinion.

Uh, how are coal fired plants harmful to migratory birds? Since the emission crack downs of the 90's, coal fired energy is a lot less dangerous than the blades of those turbines. The last stat I read said 10,000 birds have met their end do to wind turbines!

JohnnyReb · « **Reply #35 on:** February 07, 2011, 04:53:50 PM »

Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 07, 2011, 04:24:30 PM

Uh, how are coal fired plants harmful to migratory birds? Since the emission crack downs of the 90's, coal fired energy is a lot less dangerous than the blades of those turbines. The last stat I read said 10,000 birds have met their end do to wind turbines!

...and the bugs.

I read an article a few years ago about a wind farm in California that had lost 40% of it's out put due to bug splattered blades. They had to clean them every month and at quite some cost. A fellow invented a film to put on the blades to reduce the bug splatter drag. ....and the evil bastard got rich.

thundley4 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 07, 2011, 04:59:11 PM »

Quote from: JohnnyReb on February 07, 2011, 04:53:50 PM

...and the bugs.

I read an article a few years ago about a wind farm in California that had lost 40% of it's out put due to bug splattered blades. They had to clean them every month and at quite some cost. A fellow invented a film to put on the blades to reduce the bug splatter drag. ....and the evil bastard got rich.

Something like Teflon, but he called it Bug-Off?

AllosaursRus · « **Reply #37 on:** February 07, 2011, 11:48:27 PM »

Hmmmmmm, wonder what happened to Mr coal fired plants are a hazard??????????

Bein' as how we've slapped him over 700 times, I guess I don't need to ask.

Alpha Mare · « **Reply #38 on:** February 08, 2011, 03:09:01 AM »

Quote from: compaqxp on February 07, 2011, 02:28:24 PM

I agree with you on High speed rail and CFLs but not Wind farms. I'm sure not everywhere does them the same but here a large wind farm was just put up. They used land that was not fit to grow crops and was undeveloped, basically land that wasn't very usable now has a use. They also run almost all the time, are very reliable and don't look that bad where they've been put.

Yep, inconspicuous, in the farmland. And quiet too. Ours is little, 200 turbines. Roscoe in West Texas has 627.

diesel driver · « **Reply #39 on:** February 08, 2011, 04:42:36 AM »

Quote from: compaqxp on February 07, 2011, 04:02:43 PM

I can't imagine coal plants are good for birds... The pros outweigh the cons with wind mills in my opinion.

I take it you haven't been past a coal plant in a while, if ever.

Considering the most toxic thing coming out of a coal plant is steam, the birds do very well. A lot of birds build their nests on/in the smokestacks and cooling towers.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #40 on:** February 08, 2011, 09:42:51 AM »

Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 07, 2011, 04:09:20 PM

Personally, I want it all used. Nuke plants. Natural gas plants. Wind farms. Solar farms. Especially coal plants. Even wood-fired plants (they're called "biomass," and the South has a lot of forests to use for these).

Hell yeah, I couldn't agree more!

GOBUCKS · « **Reply #41 on:** February 08, 2011, 10:31:12 AM »

We have over two hundred years of proven coal reserves right here at home, even if not one additional seam is ever discovered.

BlueStateSaint · « **Reply #42 on:** February 08, 2011, 11:53:54 AM »

Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 08, 2011, 10:31:12 AM

We have over two hundred years of proven coal reserves right here at home, even if not one additional seam is ever discovered.

Use it all. And I forgot hydro power in my post above. Ya wanna know what the DUmbassed NYS Thruway Authority, which has control of the various canals in NYS, did some years ago? A bunch of the locks on the Erie Canal had hydro generating capacity--not much each, mind you, but put together . . . they could be something--and some idiot ordered that electric generating capacity removed. What an eeeediot.

AllosaursRus · « **Reply #43 on:** February 08, 2011, 12:23:19 PM »

Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 08, 2011, 11:53:54 AM

Use it all. And I forgot hydro power in my post above. Ya wanna know what the DUmbassed NYS Thruway Authority, which has control of the various canals in NYS, did some years ago? A bunch of the locks on the Erie Canal had hydro generating capacity--not much each, mind you, but put together . . . they could be something--and some idiot ordered that electric generating capacity removed. What an eeeediot.

Hell, we generate all kinds of hydro up here! Guess where the majority goes? You got it! The "lefty" coast of WA, OR, and CA!

BlueStateSaint · « **Reply #44 on:** February 08, 2011, 12:55:56 PM »

Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 08, 2011, 12:23:19 PM

Hell, we generate all kinds of hydro up here! Guess where the majority goes? You got it! The "lefty" coast of WA, OR, and CA!

The western Adirondacks--near Karin's area--have quite a few hydros, too.

AllosaursRus · « **Reply #45 on:** February 08, 2011, 01:08:35 PM »

Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 08, 2011, 12:55:56 PM

The western Adirondacks--near Karin's area--have quite a few hydros, too.

What's amazing is we generate more than enough power for ourselves, but the utilities export it, then ask for rate raises from us!!!!! Guess who requires them to export a certain amount?

JohnnyReb · « **Reply #46 on:** February 09, 2011, 08:14:08 AM »

What is it with Republicans and any kind of new technology?

One word proves we like it.....DIEBOLD.

AllosaursRus · « **Reply #47 on:** February 09, 2011, 01:42:03 PM »

Quote from: JohnnyReb on February 09, 2011, 08:14:08 AM

What is it with Republicans and any kind of new technology?

One word proves we like it.....DIEBOLD.

Hehehe! The Fat Red Round One Just rolled over in hell!

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Author Topic: What is it with Republicans and any kind of new technology? (Read 3587 times)