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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2011, 01:15:17 PM »
Whoever it was that first gave mankind the notion of "luck."

That because you had less food, less water and thinner clothing than your neighbor, you were unlucky.

That because you weren't as strong as your neighbor, and could therefore not plant and harvest as much as he, you were unlucky.

That because your neighbor had a better looking spouse, you were unlucky.

That because you perceived life as little more than some ****ing "throw of the dice," everything you didn't have was because you were unlucky, and could be rectified by stealing from those who had worked harder than you, and convincing everyone that to do so was somehow righteous.

Verily I say unto you, whoever it was that conned the world into believing that a lack of willingness, work ethic and self-discipline could be blamed upon those who possessed these traits deserves to be not only removed from history, but regarded as the single greatest mass murderer the world has ever known.

I submit that whoever this colossal douchebag is, the proof of God's existence may be found if, and only if, this repugnant, evil soul is presently spending eternity with his wretched asshole serving as Satan's umbrella stand.

By the way: THIS is the question I plan upon asking of the Father, if I'm ever deemed worthy of His audience.
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2011, 01:15:17 PM »
and it should be noted, they have been for 3 centuries or close to it!

( oh, and thanx Reb for showin' me a way to write Damn without using the obvious term! Much obliged! )

More like 14 centuries.
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2011, 01:17:03 PM »
You forgot, that the different sects of Muslims have been at war with each other also.

Yeah, that falls in line with this:

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When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. Here's how it works. As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2011, 01:41:54 PM »
More like 14 centuries.

Sorry, I ****ed up in thinkin' in thousands instead of hundreds!

Ya get the idea though! Thanx for fixin' it!
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2011, 01:47:17 PM »
Yeah, that falls in line with this:

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

http://dttj.blogspot.com/2010/07/why-stop-muslim-immigration.html

You forget to mention that they also export terrorism in order to achieve their goals in every other nation that is not muslim!
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2011, 01:52:09 PM »
Hard not to go with Hitler, but Mohammed is certainly a huge contender and Stalin isn't far behind the two of them.  Stalin was every bit as  bloodthirsty as Hitler if not moreso.  I would hesitate to say that Marx, Mao, or Stalin were unique actors whose removal would have changed anything, though, they all had equally-horrid or dangerous cohorts who could well have gotten their own societies to the same place.  For instance, the USSR under Lavrentiy Berya would actually have been even more horrible than under Stalin. 

Stalin and Hitler did make their splash in the world. Hitlers pretty much died with him and Stalins did when the "elite" of his generation finally died out enough to lose their grip on the people.

Mo on the other hand as has been pointed out, has ****ed up peoples minds and lives for 1400 years or more. You wouldn't need to go back in time to kill him, all you need to do is go back to be his editor.  O-)

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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2011, 02:15:41 PM »
Hands down Mo.
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2011, 02:36:44 PM »
Adam

It would have saved us bunnies from a ton of grief.
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2011, 03:01:19 PM »
Stalin and Hitler did make their splash in the world. Hitlers pretty much died with him and Stalins did when the "elite" of his generation finally died out enough to lose their grip on the people.

Mo on the other hand as has been pointed out, has ****ed up peoples minds and lives for 1400 years or more. You wouldn't need to go back in time to kill him, all you need to do is go back to be his editor.  O-)

No shit! H5!

Must be nice to write yer own religion, huh?

Boy, could I have some fun!

I don't think the DUmmies would be pleased though! Ah well, according to them, it's the natural order of things when religion kicks yer ass! I'm sure they will understand!
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2011, 03:03:12 PM »
Adam

It would have saved us bunnies from a ton of grief.

You need to find the guy who decided bunnies "taste like chicken"!

Not sure that was Adam, maybe Eve though! heh!

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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
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16. Muhammad IMO, Islamic fundamentalism is today's biggest threat to world peace
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2011, 09:06:11 PM »
Margaret Sanger - Think of all the babies we could've saved. Hitler's favorite American.

Woodrow Wilson - Most responsible for leading this country towards a nanny state, which makes us weak. An America not weakened by sucking the government teat would be in a better position mentally, militarily, and financially to put an end to the petty bullshit by all these 2-bit dictators, mullahs and Arab princes.

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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2011, 09:28:06 PM »
Margaret Sanger - Think of all the babies we could've saved. Hitler's favorite American.

Woodrow Wilson - Most responsible for leading this country towards a nanny state, which makes us weak. An America not weakened by sucking the government teat would be in a better position mentally, militarily, and financially to put an end to the petty bullshit by all these 2-bit dictators, mullahs and Arab princes.

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What is amusing is, if ya ask a leftie, they will tell ya FDR is their hero in arms! Wilson did more to cause WWII than any single man in the frikkin' world! Not only that, he laid the groundwork for what is now the stinkin' UN, residing on our own soil while doing everything possible to take us down! League of Nations, anyone? He was more than willing to let us go down the crapper for that POS rather than ever take America's best interests to heart! He actually believed he could Socialize the whole ****in' planet with one piece of legislative treatise!

As far as presidents go, Wilson betrayed his country far more in the name of "Progressive Ideals" than anyone before or since!

The guy was closer to a damn socialist than our current Coward In Chief!

O'bumbler and Soros are only continuing Wilson's Doctrine!
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2011, 02:25:22 PM »
No shit! H5!

Must be nice to write yer own religion, huh?

Boy, could I have some fun!

I don't think the DUmmies would be pleased though! Ah well, according to them, it's the natural order of things when religion kicks yer ass! I'm sure they will understand!

Been done since Mo, Joseph Smith and the founder of Scientology did one heck of a good job.

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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2011, 02:52:53 PM »
Wouldn't want to waste a chance like this, and just subtracting someone from history doesn't necessarily mean that all the bad crap he or she did wouldn't have happened anyway (not to mention unintended consequences of removing, say, Hitler--would the US be the superpower it is now if not for WWII?). Mohammed seems like an obvious choice, but I'd guess that someone in his inner circle would have filled the bill and we'd still have Islam. Let's remember that Islam really started out as a political doctrine looking for window dressing. That strongly suggests to me that any number of people would have forwarded this horror on the world.

But an American President of reasonably modern times, I think, could not simply have been replaced by anyone else. It's much more a case of the right man needed at the right time to mold the future events we want to avoid than the time and purpose of Mohammed.

So I'd get rid of FDR. I can't imagine any other President having been elected in his place having accomplished so much damage to the United States. Remove FDR, and likely we'd have had no Obama.

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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2011, 02:57:40 PM »
Wouldn't want to waste a chance like this, and just subtracting someone from history doesn't necessarily mean that all the bad crap he or she did wouldn't have happened anyway (not to mention unintended consequences of removing, say, Hitler--would the US be the superpower it is now if not for WWII?). Mohammed seems like an obvious choice, but I'd guess that someone in his inner circle would have filled the bill and we'd still have Islam. Let's remember that Islam really started out as a political doctrine looking for window dressing. That strongly suggests to me that any number of people would have forwarded this horror on the world.

But an American President of reasonably modern times, I think, could not simply have been replaced by anyone else. It's much more a case of the right man needed at the right time to mold the future events we want to avoid than the time and purpose of Mohammed.

So I'd get rid of FDR. I can't imagine any other President having been elected in his place having accomplished so much damage to the United States. Remove FDR, and likely we'd have had no Obama.

Good point! Imagine if the left got rid of Regan! We'd still be in a cold war! No other pres had the balls to take on the Ruskies after him!

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Then again, imagine Clintoon not givin' up our technology to the Chicoms or the N. Koreans!

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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2011, 03:04:02 PM »
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35. and what wars are Muslims engaged in today
 other than with us? If you have no answer then clearly eliminating us would be more sensible since there are far more of them.

You mean, other than with India, Russia, most of Europe, China, various African countries, themselves, and pretty much some population on every continent except Antarctica?


Sense by the metric of who's more numerous, not who constitutes a better and decent civilization? (Or, in this case, a civilization and a worldwide population of barbarians.) Plus eliminating Mohammed eliminates Islam in this scenario (a dubious proposition anyway), not the people.

Man, DUmmies are painfully ignorant. Painfully.




Hell, even if they somehow were the more "valuable" group, and even if eliminating Islam from history somehow eliminated the people who became Moslems, only someone extremely ****ed in the head would place their existence above ours in an us vs them world.
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2011, 05:35:25 PM »
Hard not to go with Hitler, but Mohammed is certainly a huge contender and Stalin isn't far behind the two of them.  Stalin was every bit as  bloodthirsty as Hitler if not moreso.  I would hesitate to say that Marx, Mao, or Stalin were unique actors whose removal would have changed anything, though, they all had equally-horrid or dangerous cohorts who could well have gotten their own societies to the same place.  For instance, the USSR under Lavrentiy Berya would actually have been even more horrible than under Stalin. 

Stalin had a higher body count, up to 60,000,000. Those henchmen are just as bad. Lavarentii Beria is really bad. Sometimes I think he worse than Stalin. Stalin was very paranoid, self-hating, and insecure, like Hitler.
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2011, 05:36:11 PM »
Looks like a close race at the DUmp between Hitler and Ronald Reagan. I'm surprised Dubya isn't a landslide winner.

I am surprised too and Palin, considering Bush and Palin drive them into madness. Than again, they are not historical figures yet. Okay, Bush is because he was President.
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2011, 05:36:53 PM »
Mao. 70,000,000 people murdered. Stalin is a distance second at 'only' 40,000,000.

I read Mao had killed up to 90 million, while Stalin killed 30 to 60 million. Hitler killed 20 to 30 million.
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2011, 05:40:12 PM »
Margaret Sanger - Think of all the babies we could've saved. Hitler's favorite American.

Woodrow Wilson - Most responsible for leading this country towards a nanny state, which makes us weak. An America not weakened by sucking the government teat would be in a better position mentally, militarily, and financially to put an end to the petty bullshit by all these 2-bit dictators, mullahs and Arab princes.

Cindie

Woodrow Wilson help bring about the League of Nations, a forerunner of the United Nations. The League of Nations failed in stopping the Axis and America was isolationist. Also, during World War I, civil liberties were severely curtailed, even more than what Bush did after 9/11.
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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2011, 04:24:57 AM »
That's easy.  Robespierre.  Him and his merry little band of misfits (Jacobins) were the original DUmmies.  Robespierre, was in many ways, the original Obama.  A good orator, told the unwashed and uneducated what they wanted to hear.  Opposed the death penalty, unless somebody disagrees with him, then they had to be killed for the good of the state.  Was more than happy to use the power of the state to execute anybody for any reason, evidence or not.  Tried to make society and commerce conform his views rather than conforming his views to the observable world.  A real nice piece of work, all around.   Without him, the Marxists don't come about in their historic form.

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Re: If it was in your power to remove one person from history, who would it be
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2011, 06:39:53 AM »
If it was in your power to remove one person group from history, who would it be

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