Diebold to Decide Tuesday's 'Toss-Up' Special Election for U.S. Senate in MA

[Carl]

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BradBlog (1000+ posts)          Fri Jan-15-10 04:24 PM
Original message
Diebold to Decide Tuesday's 'Toss-Up' Special Election for U.S. Senate in MA   
   
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 04:24 PM by BradBlog


Easily Hacked Diebold Systems to Decide 'Toss-Up' U.S. Senate Special Election in MA
My full coverage is now posted at Upstate NY's Right-leaning Gouverneur Times...

Since writing today's piece for Upstate New York's right-leaning Gouverneur Times, a new poll has come out this morning showing the Republican Scott Brown now leading the Democrat Martha Coakley by 4 points in the race for the U.S. Senate seat formerly held by a Democrat named Kennedy for nearly 60 years.

As of last night, when I filed the story with them, the latest survey from a Democratic-leaning pollster showed Coakley up by 8, though a day or two earlier, Republican Rasmussen had Brown down only by 2 points.

Suffice to say it's now officially "a toss-up", at least according to the Rothenberg Political Report, and to all the Dems and Reps now sweating out what was previously thought to have been an easy Democratic win.

With the 60th "filibuster-proof" Senate seat now hanging precariously in the balance, I'm sure you'll be delighted to hear that the winner will now be whoever Diebold declares it to be. The near-entirety of the state will vote next Tuesday on paper ballots to be counted by Diebold op-scan systems. The same ones used dubiously in the New Hampshire Primary in 2008, and the same ones notoriously hacked -- resulting in a flipped mock election -- in HBO's Emmy-nominated Hacking Democracy.

And to make matters even worse, the notorious LHS Associates -- the private company with the criminal background, who has admitted to illegally tampering with memory cards during elections, and who has a Director of Sales and Marketing who embarrassed himself with obscene comments here at The BRAD BLOG some years ago, resulting in his being barred from CT by their Sec. of State -- sells and services almost all of MA's voting machines along with those in the rest of New England.

Read my detailed coverage of the entire sad affair over at Gouverneur Times today. And yes, here we go again...

CakeGrrl  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jan-15-10 04:38 PM
Original message
Never forget: All the Rs need to do is get it close enough to steal
   ...and they're still in charge of the purse strings to make it happen.
   

moondust  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jan-15-10 10:54 PM
Response to Original message
38. That was my first thought.
   "No wonder it's so close." (According to some pollsters and media, whether it really is or not.)

BeFree  (1000+ posts)          Fri Jan-15-10 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #2
10. Paper ballots counted by.......   
   .....computers. Computers that can make mistakes, be hacked and programmed to put out whatever the programmers want.

Your vote is not safe.

BeFree  (1000+ posts)          Fri Jan-15-10 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #35
39. heh   
   Yeah, they had paper ballots in Florida in 2000. And how did that recount work out?

Basically, the count is slanted and if no one paid attention, or was concerned, then what happened in 2000, and then again in Ohio 2004, it could easily happen again, and you can bet that since the pubbies are on the ropes and desperate, they will do anything they can to steal votes from democrats.

BeFree  (1000+ posts)          Fri Jan-15-10 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. Paper   
   Its all paper. It is a paper recorded vote, both then and now.

Your attitude is an example of how our votes can so easily be stolen... people just can't believe that their vote could be stolen, so in slip the crooks.
Thanks for nothing, Maud.

diva77  (924 posts)       Fri Jan-15-10 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #12
33. Once the ballots leave the precincts, there is a greater likelihood that the chain of
   Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 07:09 PM by diva77
custody will be violated - so even if you have moola for a recount, you really can't be sure of the recount results either

remember Ohio 2004? http://www.iwantmyvote.com/recount/ohio_reports /

BradBlog (1000+ posts)          Fri Jan-15-10 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #4
22. READ THE FULL ARTICLE   
   Sounds like you remain with your head in the sand on this one.

We're talking about paper ballots "counted" by optical-scan machines that are easily hacked. As per the film clip from HBO's "Hacking Democracy", as included in the article.

TheCowsCameHome  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jan-15-10 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Other than nasty replies to posts.....
   ....what's your solution - granite slabs and chisels?

I vote in my town using the method they have chosen to use.

Psssst...must not introduce any kind of reason at the DUmp.

BeFree  (1000+ posts)          Fri Jan-15-10 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #29
41. Ahhh   
   The old "Good German" excuse.

The solution is for everyone to demand that the votes be counted in a way that there is no question that the votes were counted correctly.

Basically the count is guilty until proven innocent.

The means, the motive, and the opportunity is all right there.
Ready to be taken down off the shelf and used again to steal our votes.

winyanstaz  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jan-15-10 05:17 PM
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16. Why are we still using diebold? We KNOW its a bad system...
   and that they cheat.
This is not a fair election..I can tell that already.

Duval  (119 posts)        Fri Jan-15-10 06:32 PM
Response to Original message
27. That is outrageous!!
   Can't Somebody DO something??
   

Post a silent thread...that will teach em!

Betty Karlson (328 posts)          Sat Jan-16-10 06:32 AM
Response to Reply #51
53. It is. This is democracy being overturned one vote at the time.

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[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

The deepest of deep blue balls states and they don't have the sense to buy the non-hackable system with their own money?

Or maybe the presence of Diebold explains why the democrats have been able to keep Massachusetts blue balled for so long...

Hm-m-m-m

 

[JohnnyReb]

DUmmie diva77 says:

33. Once the ballots leave the precincts, there is a greater likelihood that the chain of custody will be violated - so even if you have moola for a recount, you really can't be sure of the recount results either

....and that's why democrats ride them around in the trunk of their car until needed.

[Specbid]

Love that adbot...only thing funnier would have been an ad for Diebold.

[Specbid]

My bank has Diebold ATMs...I wonder if the moonbats use these machines and worry that Republicans might be stealing their money. 

[Celtic Rose]

The DUmmies talk about Republicans stealing elections, but it always seems to be the Democrats who are actually arrested for messing with them.  

[BlueStateSaint]

The DUmmies talk about Republicans stealing elections, but it always seems to be the Democrats who are actually arrested for messing with them.  

Yeah--they always seem to gloss over that little detail, don't they?

[Celtic Rose]

Yeah--they always seem to gloss over that little detail, don't they?

Yes, they are very good at ignoring that little fact, as they ignore most inconvenient facts. 

[Carl]

Yes, they are very good at ignoring that little fact, as they ignore most inconvenient facts. 

You have to remember to think like a petulant child where the word "fact" has no meaning.

Just as a 5 year old can be caught with his/her hand in the cookie jar yet still proclaim loudly that they didn`t so it is with them.

[jukin]

So it's back to "WWON" or the ever popular"THY CHEATED" again.

DUchebags for being the self described giftedist and talentedist aren't very creative.

[DefiantSix]

BeFree  (1000+ posts)          Fri Jan-15-10 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #2
10. Paper ballots counted by.......  
   .....computers. Computers that can make mistakes, be hacked and programmed to put out whatever the programmers want.

Your vote is not safe.

This DUmbass is worthy of "speshul" attention, for the statement highlighted above.

I have never seen a computer make a mistake.  Not once.  

I've seen plenty of DUmbasses dump absolute garbage raw data into a computer for processing - temperature data taken from stations next to an AC condenser unit, anyone? - and get the inevitable garbage out the other end.  

I've seen perfectly good raw data poured into a computer to be processed by an effed up excuse for a program written by some DUmbass who couldn't count past 10 without taking his burkenstocks off - mean temperature generation from East Anglia University "climatologists", anybody? - and the ineitable garbage output is the result.

In all cases, the computer processed the data it was given, precisely according to the set of instructions it was given.  It did not weight one piece of data over another, except where it was given explicit instructions to do so.  It did not ignore one piece of data - because it has a [D_Umbass] trailing it's name, for example - except where it was told to do so.

So don't blame the computer for your own failure to give it a clear set of instructions, or when the data doesn't support the conclusion you wanted to come out of the computer at the other end.  

[Traveshamockery]

Like the children they are, they must begin coming up with excuses before the game to explain why they lost and why it had to have been someone else's fault and totally not fair............these people are effing idiots and crybabies.  

 

I wonder how many votes for the midterm elections in 2006 were counted by the dreaded Diebold machines and how many democrats (or republicans for that matter) complained about the results then?  If I recall, George Bush came out and said that the American people spoke and that was that.  

[BadCat]

Damn they're on to us.

Oh well, if you have your VRWC card, go to http:/****aliberal.org and cast your vote for Brown.

[TheSarge]

I can't wait until Doug's ex-wife shows up in this thread.
 

[DefiantSix]

Like the children they are, they must begin coming up with excuses before the game to explain why they lost and why it had to have been someone else's fault and totally not fair............these people are effing idiots and crybabies.  

 

I wonder how many votes for the midterm elections in 2006 were counted by the dreaded Diebold machines and how many democrats (or republicans for that matter) complained about the results then?  If I recall, George Bush came out and said that the American people spoke and that was that.  

'Diebold' - to use the DUmbasses term - is the whole reason that Stuart Smalley got a seat in the US Senate House of ****ing Lords.  Without 'Diebold', Stuart Smalley wouldn't even make a decent court jester for the US House of ****ing Lords.

[Doc Savage]

Born in Mass, grew up in southern New Hampshire.  Why, I remember all the elections that the republicans stole in the Commonwealth.  All those stolen elections went with all those world series victories by the Sox in the 60's, 70's and 80,s. 

[PatriotGame]

Like the children they are, they must begin coming up with excuses before the game to explain why they lost and why it had to have been someone else's fault and totally not fair............these people are effing idiots and crybabies.  

True but regardless, the ensuing WAILING from the DUmmys if Brown wins will be entertainment gold. While I know for a FACT that there will be zero cheating from a Conservative side, (VRWC Black Ops are sitting this one out), I would support *ANY* method of ensuring a win by Brown.
Watching DUmmys writhe in self-imposed angst is a euphoric high unattainable from any drug or alcohol based beverage.

I'll say a prayer for Diebold tonight - please do the same.

[BlueStateSaint]

True but regardless, the ensuing WAILING from the DUmmys if Brown wins will be entertainment gold. While I know for a FACT that there will be zero cheating from a Conservative side, (VRWC Black Ops are sitting this one out), I would support *ANY* method of ensuring a win by Brown.
Watching DUmmys writhe in self-imposed angst is a euphoric high unattainable from any drug or alcohol based beverage.

I'll say a prayer for Diebold tonight - please do the same.

I was wondering if anyone was going to acknowledge receipt of that message!

Prayers will be said.

[GOBUCKS]

It's astonishing that Massachusetts Republicans, who are as rare as hard-working honest DUmpmonkeys, control all the boards of elections.

Where is Bev Harris in all this? The uproar over Massachusetts is made to order for her, and now she could have it set up for DUmmies to text their $10 to her instantly. After the democrat wins by 10 points, which I still believe will happen, Bev's opportunity will evaporate.

[Ree]

I thought it was my turn to play with the vote machines...

[DefiantSix]

I thought it was my turn to play with the vote machines...

We thought about being subtle about it, but impotent DUmmy rage is so much more fun to watch live, when they touch the screen for Coakley and the Scott Brown selection lights up instead. [/VRWC plan mode]

[Ree]

We thought about being subtle about it, but impotent DUmmy rage is so much more fun to watch live, when they touch the screen for Coakley and the Scott Brown selection lights up instead. [/VRWC plan mode]

[Traveshamockery]

When Scott Brown is declared the winner on Tuesday night, I might even consider sacrificing one of my moles just for fun. 

 

[skipuno]

Reading there posts reminded me of the old James Bond movies. Ernst Blofeld sitting at a long table with all his henchmen,  petting a white cat says, "So number one,tell us how operation vote stealing is going in Massachusetts".

[TheSarge]

Reading there posts reminded me of the old James Bond movies. Ernst Blofeld sitting at a long table with all his henchmen,  petting a white cat says, "So number one,tell us how operation vote stealing is going in Massachusetts".

Since 2000 it's been one of...if not THE number one excuse that Liberals trot out for why they lose elections.

Another one of those little things that let them keep reality at arms length.