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Offline franksolich

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poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« on: October 10, 2009, 08:25:29 AM »
Yesterday (Friday), I noticed that primitives on Skins's island, especially in the "Breaking News" forum, are using excerpts from the Associated Press (AP).

This issue was addressed here a few months ago.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,31345.0.html

It was also addressed on freerepublic, which no longer allows any Associated Press links on its web-site.  Period.

That's the rule, and we don't like it, but being decent and civilized people, we follow the rule.

The primitives of course are another matter altogether; being Democrats and liberals, the primitives think they have to follow only rules that they want to follow.

I'm torn.  I think that Skins's island should be turned into the Associated Press, but on the other hand, there's the old school tie with my fellow alum Skins, and I have nothing but the warmest affection for a fellow alum.
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2009, 08:28:48 AM »
It actually would be interesting to see if the Associated Press holds liberal forums to the same standard as conservative ones so I'm inclined to encourage you to be a little birdy in their ear.
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2009, 08:31:38 AM »
I'd say yes, rat those rat bastards out. :stirpot:
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2009, 08:49:30 AM »
Nothing irks a liberal more than having to follow the same rules as THE LITTLE PEOPLE. 
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2009, 10:05:20 AM »
When you ignore a rule is when you endorse a lower standard, something decent and civilized people cannot allow to happen.

Plus, it'll piss them off to no end.
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2009, 10:35:58 AM »
Abso-(expletive deleted)-lutely.
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2009, 10:40:33 AM »
DO IT!! DO IT!! DO IT!!
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2009, 10:55:17 AM »
You haven't done it already?  I'd be on that like Michael Jackson on a small boy!
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2009, 11:12:49 AM »
I'm with the majority (OK the landslide) here. All you have to do is a nice friendly inquiry as to why is it that the right seems to have rules while the left can run roughshod all over their copyrighted wishes. How it does nothing for perceptions that the media is a liberal mouthpiece.  :innocent:
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2009, 11:28:23 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on October 10, 2009, 10:55:17 AM
You haven't done it already?  I'd be on that like Michael Jackson on a small boy!

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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2009, 01:43:21 PM »
Since when is the Associated Press any more respectable than the DUmp?
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2009, 01:45:16 PM »
True. American Pravda is so biased it aint funny.
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2009, 01:51:36 PM »
It should be done for one reason - so when we quote the primitives here, we do not accidentally quote an AP article that wasn't properly cited by the primitive.

Making them really angry is just a pleasant side-effect. 
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2009, 03:33:44 PM »
Quote from: jtyangel on October 10, 2009, 08:28:48 AM
It actually would be interesting to see if the Associated Press holds liberal forums to the same standard as conservative ones so I'm inclined to encourage you to be a little birdy in their ear.

I doubt they will. I wonder what Kos and Huffies have been up to with AP articles?
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2009, 03:40:15 PM »
I voted no.

There is a difference between "fair use" quotes of AP articles with links to the original story & publishing the entire article online as part of your own online news blog or newspaper. The latter is what AP does not like.

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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2009, 04:26:51 PM »
I say yes - because they'd do it to US in a heartbeat and turnabout is fair play.
 
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2009, 05:06:14 PM »
Quote from: RobJohnson on October 10, 2009, 03:40:15 PM
I voted no.

There is a difference between "fair use" quotes of AP articles with links to the original story & publishing the entire article online as part of your own online news blog or newspaper. The latter is what AP does not like.



Fair use is a tricky defense at best in this regard. One of the tests that dictates fair use of quoted copyrighted work is if profit is generated from it.

It could be argued that websites with second or third party advertisement  banners or links that may result in financial gain to the owners of that website are profiting off of unlicensed copyrighted work if it is included within that site.

Even though this doesn't apply to parody (Which is why Weird Al hasn't been successfully sued off the planet) It can be said that we are mocking the primitives, but not the news articles they may be citing in their posts.

Personally, I think the AP are being a bunch of weenies for choosing this angle to defend their turf - requiring paid licenses to reproduce anything of theirs on a website. Ultimately a partial article or headline will drive traffic to them when casual readers wish to finish the story.

*insert the obligatory 'I'm not a lawyer but I play one on television' line here...
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2009, 06:24:25 PM »
I'm still watching the situation, the primitives sloppily disregarding the rules regarding the use of Associated Press material.

When I do something, if I do something, I'll of course advertise it here.
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2009, 06:35:02 PM »
Why bother asking? Go do it!
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2009, 06:40:04 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on October 12, 2009, 06:35:02 PM
Why bother asking? Go do it!

Ah, but Ptarmigan, one is faced with a grievous moral dilemma here.

franksolich's rule of life is "first, do no harm."

While it's true that my fellow alum Skins doesn't even know franksolich exists, franksolich feels compelled to adhere to that old school tie, that of not making things difficult for one's compatriots.

franksolich is a nice guy, one of the nicest guys one can ever hope to meet.

However, rules are rules, and rules are meant to be followed by everybody, not only decent and civilized people.

The matter has truly taxed this conscience the past few days.

But whatever I end up doing, of course I'll advertise it here.
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2009, 09:09:11 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 12, 2009, 06:40:04 PM
Ah, but Ptarmigan, one is faced with a grievous moral dilemma here.

franksolich's rule of life is "first, do no harm."

While it's true that my fellow alum Skins doesn't even know franksolich exists, franksolich feels compelled to adhere to that old school tie, that of not making things difficult for one's compatriots.

franksolich is a nice guy, one of the nicest guys one can ever hope to meet.

However, rules are rules, and rules are meant to be followed by everybody, not only decent and civilized people.

The matter has truly taxed this conscience the past few days.

But whatever I end up doing, of course I'll advertise it here.

Do what makes you feel comfortable. You must commit to it from there.
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2009, 03:26:07 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 12, 2009, 06:40:04 PM
Ah, but Ptarmigan, one is faced with a grievous moral dilemma here.

franksolich's rule of life is "first, do no harm."

While it's true that my fellow alum Skins doesn't even know franksolich exists, franksolich feels compelled to adhere to that old school tie, that of not making things difficult for one's compatriots.

franksolich is a nice guy, one of the nicest guys one can ever hope to meet.

However, rules are rules, and rules are meant to be followed by everybody, not only decent and civilized people.

The matter has truly taxed this conscience the past few days.

But whatever I end up doing, of course I'll advertise it here.

What are you, a doctor? Stick the knife in, and give it a good twist.  :evillaugh:
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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2009, 04:12:38 AM »
Quote from: crockspot on October 13, 2009, 03:26:07 AM
What are you, a doctor? Stick the knife in, and give it a good twist.  :evillaugh:

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Re: poll: should I rat on Skins's island?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2009, 06:01:49 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 12, 2009, 06:40:04 PM
franksolich's rule of life is "first, do no harm."

It would do less harm to have the practice ended now before AP delivers skins a bill so large that it bankrupts the island.
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