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Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« on: June 06, 2008, 02:28:28 PM »
Oh Canada! How could you?  :(

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NmVmYzFlNGRhNzhhNGJkMzRlZDE0Nzc1NjFjNTg0NTY=&w=MA==

Idiot’s Guide to Completely Idiotic Canadian ‘Human Rights’ Tribunals
Steyn on trial.
By Mark Hemingway

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‘Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value.” —Canadian “Human Rights” Investigator Dean Steacy, responding to the question “What value do you give freedom of speech when you investigate?”

This is the way free speech ends, not with a bang but as the result of an administrative hearing in a windowless basement in Vancouver, Canada.

At least that’s where a “Human Rights Tribunal” is taking place this week that will further solidify the Canadian legal position that the right not to be offended by something you read is more sacred than the freedom of the press. 

At issue is a cover story National Review’s own Mark Steyn wrote for the Canadian newsweekly Maclean’s, titled “The Future Belongs to Islam.” An excerpt from Steyn’s bestselling book America Alone, the article highlighted the fact that demographic trends suggest that Muslims may well become a majority in much of Europe and that this obviously represents a threat to Europe as we know it. A few Muslim law students objected to the article and filed multiple complaints with Canada’s national and provincial “human rights” tribunals and presto! Steyn’s opinion and Maclean’s right to print it have now been effectively criminalized.

"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 02:36:36 PM »
Coming soon to a USA near you!

Heck it is 95% here.
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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 02:53:38 PM »
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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 02:58:11 PM »
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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2008, 03:00:42 PM »
For the record, Mclean's is the Canadian counterpart of Time and Newsweek magazine.

It was founded some decades ago when some now-obscure prime minister made a big deal about American "domination" of Canadian businesses and media, and so among the liberals and primitives in Canada, it's hip, it's cool, it's trendy, it's with it, to read Mclean's.

Canada has nothing similar with our own Bill of Rights.

Freedom of speech is not a legal right in Canada.

Just in case the American Nana primitive, NanceGreggs, forgot to tell us.
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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2008, 03:02:53 PM »
For the record, Mclean's is the Canadian counterpart of Time and Newsweek magazine.

It was founded some decades ago when some now-obscure prime minister made a big deal about American "domination" of Canadian businesses and media, and so among the liberals and primitives in Canada, it's hip, it's cool, it's trendy, it's with it, to read Mclean's.

Canada has nothing similar with our own Bill of Rights.

Freedom of speech is not a legal right in Canada.

Just in case the American Nana primitive, NanceGreggs, forgot to tell us.

They go into that in some detail in the article (well-written).  Basically, they DO have freedom of speech in their Constitution and laws, but it is completely trumped by the anti-hate speech laws -- their courts have come down on the side of the hate speech laws every time.
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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2008, 03:04:18 PM »
Coming soon to a USA near you!

Heck it is 95% here.


It's already here:

http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/

CAIR is trying to silence Michael Savage.
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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2008, 04:48:53 PM »
For the record, Mclean's is the Canadian counterpart of Time and Newsweek magazine.

It was founded some decades ago when some now-obscure prime minister made a big deal about American "domination" of Canadian businesses and media, and so among the liberals and primitives in Canada, it's hip, it's cool, it's trendy, it's with it, to read Mclean's.

Canada has nothing similar with our own Bill of Rights.

Freedom of speech is not a legal right in Canada.

Just in case the American Nana primitive, NanceGreggs, forgot to tell us.

They go into that in some detail in the article (well-written).  Basically, they DO have freedom of speech in their Constitution and laws, but it is completely trumped by the anti-hate speech laws -- their courts have come down on the side of the hate speech laws every time.


link from article...

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/#droits
Canadian charter of rights and freedoms
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2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
a) freedom of conscience and religion;
b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
d) freedom of association.
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2008, 04:53:52 PM »
Well now, that confuses me.

I've been told, and I've read, about how Canada has no such thing as our Bill of Rights, and that freedom of speech is not a right in Canada.

There's a lot of Canadians, usually from Manitoba, who pass through this part of the country.
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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2008, 05:04:05 PM »
Coming soon to a USA near you!

Heck it is 95% here.


It's already here:

http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/

CAIR is trying to silence Michael Savage.

Yeah it's here for sure. Savage has his deal and Michelle Malkin (and others) have done great work exposing campus speech codes and what not.

However, we do not yet have Canadian style "Kangaroo courts" set up with the intent of circumventing constitutional rights of the kind Mark Steyn is facing right now. At least, not yet.

Let's hope this trial makes enough noise to wake up our fellow American's.
http://www.steynonline.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&q=canada+free+speech&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=11&ct=title
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2008, 08:51:51 AM »

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‘Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value.” —Canadian “Human Rights” Investigator Dean Steacy, responding to the question “What value do you give freedom of speech when you investigate?”


That sounds hating to me. I wonder if there is a online complaint form?


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Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2008, 08:55:09 AM »
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