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Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« on: October 10, 2012, 02:04:27 AM »
In southern California right now many people are striking for better wages that they 'know' they deserve. Here are a few of my thoughts.

I go to Wal-Mart often. I like the selection but I HATE the service offered by the employees. For the most part they hire young people, disabled people and old people. You would expect some decent customer service at times given they do hire quite a few old people. They have manners right? They have work ethic right? HA!

I once went to get a new router when I lived in a small town in Rhode Island. There wasn't another option without driving 20+ minutes. I went to the electronics section and pulled out every router they had and set them on top of a big screen TV box so I could compare each one. I grouped them by what I figured was the best to worst by the specs on the boxes and got rid of the bottom few. I then started doing on-line searches for reviews on each one I still had there. In all, I spent over 45 minutes doing everything. As it was about 8-9 pm it was slow and there were three older employees sitting at the electronics counter within full view of me. They never once stopped talking and came to see if I needed help. I went to complain to a manager and the manager said it was my fault for never asking them for help. Seriously? Since when do I HAVE to ask for help when I am obviously going through so much trouble to find the best product?

Another instance, they didn't have an item that was on sale and the manager told me oh well, get something else. The corporate office sends out their advertisements and they don't always have the items on stock because they don't order things individually. They also refused to honor the sale price on another item. Funny thing, I realized a few weeks later their own board in the customer service center says they will offer a rain check for ANY SALE ITEM not currently in stock. Why was I not offered this? Again, inept employees.

I can not count how many times I have been at Wal-Mart and had an employee cut me off. I am there to shop and give them money, yet I have to STOP and wait for them because they're in a hurry to.... go pick their nose? Who knows what they're in a race to go do but you can guarantee it isn't work. I should not have to slow down as an employee walks in front of me either, you walk BEHIND a customer if you are about to cross paths. It is business ethics 101 for customer service and you would THINK common sense. It is the LITTLE THINGS that make a difference and those little things show you care about customers.

One night about 11 pm I went to Wal-Mart and went to check out. There was a line, I am NOT joking, over 15 people long because only one checkout stand was open. I politely went over to the assistant manager who was joking around with four other associates and asked if they didn't mind opening another checkout stand. She laughed at me and said they don't have the people on shift to do that. I said I understand you guys don't plan for this but you are sitting here bs'ing with four associates and can't spare one person to help people out? She said I need to go somewhere else if I don't like the service being offered, they do not open anymore stands after a certain time no matter how many people are in line. So I politely turned around and went and put all my groceries behind some women clothes and left them there. Dumb woman wants to treat me like crap AND be in a leadership position I will act like a dummy and make sure the cold stuff I was going to buy now goes bad. I wrote a complaint to Wal-Mart and NEVER heard a thing and the woman was still working there when I left the area and moved back to California.

One of my BIGGEST pet peeves are people who park at stores in the red zone because they'll only be there for a couple minutes. I don't care if you're a Medal of Honor recipient this is a HAZARD to people as they're leaving because you block the view. I have seen kids run out of a store before and one time even watched a kid get hit because he ran right out into the road with no view being blocked by a vehicle so I know how hazardous this is. I often tell them that this is a hazard and if a kid gets hit because they allow this then they are liable legally because they know of an issue that is creating a hazardous situation and refuse to do anything about it.


I have a great work ethic and it shows in my service to others. I have had some amazing leaders in the military take me under their wings and show me things because they have seen the leadership potential in me. Leaders that have received praise from the media and even one of which is now a General, who as a Lt Col. helped me as a specialist. Once I was an NCO I always had the problem children to train. So I know a thing or two about leadership and work ethics.


Long story short, these examples are to show how inept their employees are at ALL levels. How can they demand a raise when they can't even do their job to even a satisfactory level? If they want better paying jobs go get a  better education and go apply for better jobs. There is a reason most of them work there, they can't find anything better because they're felons, drop outs, drug users or stupid. Granted, some people are great employees who work at Wal-Mart and usually they're there for a minimal amount of time. In this economy there are MANY people looking for jobs, if they're not happy fire them and let those people have a job.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 04:25:31 AM »
Dude, when did you get fired from Walmart?     

I am not a Walmart fan as I think most of the stores are disgusting pits, so I prefer Target over Walmart any day of the week.   That said, you don't live in a third world country with limited shopping options.   You live in RI - a tiny blip of a state.    Shop elsewhere and save yourself the stress this store appears to be giving you.   

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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 04:26:29 AM »
This is also not breaking news. 
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 11:36:53 AM »
I prefer the sales people to not bother me, but to be around if I do need help.  I don't like it when they constantly come up asking if I need help.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2012, 04:29:27 AM »
The biggest employer in the nation is fighting the most organized effort at unionizing in the United States it has ever seen and that is NOT major breaking news? Yet, Obama's racist speech from an unverified source, the NFL bounty scandal and other things are.

You're kidding me right?

It is bad enough I have someone asking me when I was fired from Wal-Mart and I have way too much intelligence to ever work there. The same guy thinks I still live in Rhode Island, when I clearly said I moved back to California. He thinks everything in RI is close and thinks I said I live in a third world country...EVERYTHING is centered around Providence, I lived 30-45 minutes away on the border of Connecticutt. That is NOT a very close drive to just do normal shopping.

I prefer Target too but I was not talking about Target. I merely said I go to Wal-Mart often. The issue at hand is Wal-Mart.

If this is the kind of intellect on this message board, dear God help me. Anyone with the slightest critical thinking level would see the impact this will have on the United States and the lift it will give Democrats and unions spending.

I hope you guys come to your senses and put this thread back where it belongs. After all, this is a million times more important then the frigging NFL. No wonder why Democrats keep getting whatever they want.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 04:38:37 AM »
Um, first, you do realize there are members of this board who work at WalMart as well as former employees, yes?  And while not everyone loves the place, you do have to admit it does fill a need in many communities.

Second, as someone originally from "out west", there are few if any areas in New England that are what I would consider "remote".  Let me know when you have to drive two hours to a McDonalds, mkay?

Third, it's NOT breaking news.  Unions (particularly the UFCW) have been going after WalMart for YEARS.  But even the unions realize they're fighting an uphill battle at best, and the dues which come from folks making little more than minimum wage to start isn't going to help their bottom line much.  They have much bigger fish to fry, so to speak--starting with just keeping the members they do have, which in a lot of cases is fairly unsuccesful.

Fourth, "come to your senses"?  Drama queen much? 

Finally, calling into question people's intellect when you come here with a quite obvious slant (cough, cough) and agenda ain't gonna score you more points.  My suggestion?  Calm down, sit down, and introduce yourself in a manner befitting an intelligent adult, not some Internet savvy (sort of) version of Honey Boo Boo Child.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 07:52:36 AM »
You seem to be pretty high-maintenance.  Most of us aren't.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 08:28:58 AM »
As a Walmart assocoiate, I am sorry you have deserved this treatment. I have worked for Walmart for 9 years, and never have I seen a manager treat a customer this way. Associates. unfortunately, yes. Unfortunately, there are associates, whose mentality is, "hey , I only make $8.00 an hour, and that is what i am  going work as...
Then there are those of us, who take our job seriously enough that even when we only make an amount, we work harder to strive for more.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 09:13:54 AM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on October 11, 2012, 08:28:58 AM
As a Walmart assocoiate, I am sorry you have deserved this treatment. I have worked for Walmart for 9 years, and never have I seen a manager treat a customer this way. Associates. unfortunately, yes. Unfortunately, there are associates, whose mentality is, "hey , I only make $8.00 an hour, and that is what i am  going work as...
Then there are those of us, who take our job seriously enough that even when we only make an amount, we work harder to strive for more.

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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 09:26:13 AM »
I LOVE Walmart. They have the best prices on fishing gear, running shoes, etc.......


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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2012, 09:47:55 AM »
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In southern California right now many ridiculous idiotic people are striking for more money that they 'know' they deserve from their gracious and generous employer, Walmart Corp.   Here are a few of my thoughts.

Why did these idiots apply for jobs at Walmart?

Why did these idiots show up for work after being hired when they knew damn good and well what their agreed wages would be?

Why is southern California full of idiots?
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2012, 10:04:35 AM »
I shop at Walmart too but if I had as many problems as you I would just not go to them anymore.   :shrug:
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 10:05:48 AM »
Quote from: chrisbee80 on October 11, 2012, 04:29:27 AM
The biggest employer in the nation is fighting the most organized effort at unionizing in the United States it has ever seen and that is NOT major breaking news? Yet, Obama's racist speech from an unverified source, the NFL bounty scandal and other things are.

You're kidding me right?

It is bad enough I have someone asking me when I was fired from Wal-Mart and I have way too much intelligence to ever work there. The same guy thinks I still live in Rhode Island, when I clearly said I moved back to California. He thinks everything in RI is close and thinks I said I live in a third world country...EVERYTHING is centered around Providence, I lived 30-45 minutes away on the border of Connecticutt. That is NOT a very close drive to just do normal shopping.

I prefer Target too but I was not talking about Target. I merely said I go to Wal-Mart often. The issue at hand is Wal-Mart.

If this is the kind of intellect on this message board, dear God help me. Anyone with the slightest critical thinking level would see the impact this will have on the United States and the lift it will give Democrats and unions spending.

I hope you guys come to your senses and put this thread back where it belongs. After all, this is a million times more important then the frigging NFL. No wonder why Democrats keep getting whatever they want.

I am sorry but we have some that work at Walmart and they are way smart.  Possibly smarter than you.  Please don't be such an ass.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2012, 10:09:58 AM »
Quote from: chrisbee80 on October 11, 2012, 04:29:27 AM
If this is the kind of intellect on this message board, dear God help me. Anyone with the slightest critical thinking level would see the impact this will have on the United States and the lift it will give Democrats and unions spending.
Wait, so you didn't get the reception you wanted here and that means Barack Obama will be reeleted?

God damn, boy.  Get a grip.

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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2012, 10:20:19 AM »
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God damn, boy.  Get a grip.

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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2012, 10:24:55 AM »
Chrisbee, I don't like it when associates constantly ask if I need help.   If they do, I don't sweat it.   To me either way is no big deal.   It is not the end of the universe and the big crunch more than likely will not happen.   I prefer to figure it out myself and if I need help I will go find someone and ask.   This is how I have always done it. 
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2012, 10:32:21 AM »
When did Wal Mart have sales? I thought they had everyday low prices.

The only issue I had with our Wal Mart was an issue my mother had and it was solved with an email to the corporate office.

It was fixed very fast.

I live in a rural area. Wal Mart is our only shopping center unless you want a 2 hour round trip (depending on traffic) in the car driving to Las Vegas & back. We have people that have to drive 90 minutes just to visit our Wal Mart...I live in the middle of the old west and places like Death Valley, CA don't have many options for shopping... :-)

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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2012, 10:36:05 AM »
The last time I walked into a Walmart, the greeter greeted me.

That was cool. I thanked him.

The last time I was in a Walmart and I saw they had no Fuji apples, I asked if they had any in the back. The answer was, "No, afraid not."

The last time I was in a Walmart and I wanted to buy ammo, but nobody was at the sporting goods counter, I went over to the Paint counter and asked that somebody be called to the sporting goods counter. A person was there in about 60 seconds.

The last time I was in a Walmart and I had less than 20 items in my cart, the checker over at the liquor station waved me over to check out with her.

Gee. I have no problem in a Walmart. None at all.  :whistling:  
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2012, 10:40:48 AM »
Quote from: cubedemon on October 11, 2012, 10:24:55 AM
Chrisbee, I don't like it when associates constantly ask if I need help.   If they do, I don't sweat it.   To me either way is no big deal.   It is not the end of the universe and the big crunch more than likely will not happen.   I prefer to figure it out myself and if I need help I will go find someone and ask.   This is how I have always done it. 

I agree.

Very few people in those specialty departments can do much more then ring up your purchase. Once in a while you get lucky and find someone that can actually help you. This includes most stores.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 07:18:46 PM »
Quote from: Undies on October 11, 2012, 09:47:55 AM
Why did these idiots apply for jobs at Walmart?

Why did these idiots show up for work after being hired when they knew damn good and well what their agreed wages would be?

Why is southern California full of idiots?

Undies, seriously, look at the greater Los Angeles area and count the number of WalMarts.  They're there, I grant you, but not nearly as many as one would expect given the population density of LA/Orange/Ventura/SB/Riverside Counties.  Compare that to the ones just within a 25-mile radius of me in little 'ol Cow Hampshire/Maine.

And not everyone in SoCal is an idiot.  Some of us were smart enough to leave, and the few non-idiots left are trying to figure a way out.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2012, 10:33:08 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on October 11, 2012, 07:52:36 AM
You seem to be pretty high-maintenance.  Most of us aren't.

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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2012, 10:35:17 PM »
Quote from: chrisbee80 on October 11, 2012, 04:29:27 AM
The biggest employer in the nation is fighting the most organized effort at unionizing in the United States it has ever seen and that is NOT major breaking news? Yet, Obama's racist speech from an unverified source, the NFL bounty scandal and other things are.

You're kidding me right?

It is bad enough I have someone asking me when I was fired from Wal-Mart and I have way too much intelligence to ever work there. The same guy thinks I still live in Rhode Island, when I clearly said I moved back to California. He thinks everything in RI is close and thinks I said I live in a third world country...EVERYTHING is centered around Providence, I lived 30-45 minutes away on the border of Connecticutt. That is NOT a very close drive to just do normal shopping.

I prefer Target too but I was not talking about Target. I merely said I go to Wal-Mart often. The issue at hand is Wal-Mart.

If this is the kind of intellect on this message board, dear God help me. Anyone with the slightest critical thinking level would see the impact this will have on the United States and the lift it will give Democrats and unions spending.

I hope you guys come to your senses and put this thread back where it belongs. After all, this is a million times more important then the frigging NFL. No wonder why Democrats keep getting whatever they want.

Then leave, bitch.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2012, 10:54:24 PM »
I worked in corporate retail, it's a tough business.  Walmart is able to offer low prices because it keeps it's overhead costs down. I wouldn't say their customer service is any worse than Target's.  Guess it depends on the store and it's management.

 
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2012, 06:49:06 AM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on October 11, 2012, 08:28:58 AM
As a Walmart assocoiate, I am sorry you have deserved this treatment. I have worked for Walmart for 9 years, and never have I seen a manager treat a customer this way. Associates. unfortunately, yes. Unfortunately, there are associates, whose mentality is, "hey , I only make $8.00 an hour, and that is what i am  going work as...
Then there are those of us, who take our job seriously enough that even when we only make an amount, we work harder to strive for more.

Answer honestly. 1-10 where are your work ethics compared to your co-workers. 1 being you're scum compared to them and 10 being you're the best employee at the location you work at.
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Re: Wal-Mart Workers Strike
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2012, 07:08:21 AM »
First- Yes, I am sure some people on here work for Wal-Mart. That was proven below. Thanks for being captain obvious. /

Second- If you've been to where I used to live you would know it is an area with zero shopping because it is a summer tourist destination. I guess you and you're awesome traveling skills all over NE didn't think of that. mkay? I know where I lived, I don't need you to tell me about it.

Third- Anytime something happens for the first time ever and involves the largest private employer in the United States, I believe that most classifies as breaking news. I am military so I would never diss a retired CSM but I think that this is a bigger news level then a death. With that being said, I didn't post it properly as it was more than 5 paragraphs and did not include the link to the article. That is my fault and I have apologized to a moderator for it. Outside of that, this meets the requirements for Breaking News. I think anyone can see I have only a few posts, hmm maybe I am new to this place. The fact that NOBODY wanted to explain why and are doing like you, exuding arrogance that is only having a different aroma. 

Wal-Mart has 2.1 million employees worldwide. I can't find a number for only in the U.S. but let's be extremely conservative and say 1 million. Charge them $10 a month for their dues, another conservative estimate I've never heard of dues being that low, and that is $10 million a month, $120 million a year. Yup, you're right just chump change. As far as minimum wage, when was the last time you ever saw a union employee make minimum wage?
N-e-v-e-r!

Fourth- No drama queen here but I do see someone butting into something they are obviously way out of their league on so let's just make it easy for you. In the future you just ignore me and I won't have to make you look so foolish again. Capisce?

What is my quite obvious slant? Agenda? ..and get that cough looked at. Better yet, go watch your Honey Boo Boo show and just don't answer those questions because well... you think $120 million a year (conservatively) is, and I quote, "isn't going to help their [union] bottom line much."

Perhaps if people came at the "newbie" with a little more dignity then I would have responded in kind. Mirroring communication at it's finest. Don't like someone smarting off you to? Don't smart off to them first.

Quote from: NHSparky on October 11, 2012, 04:38:37 AM
Um, first, you do realize there are members of this board who work at WalMart as well as former employees, yes?  And while not everyone loves the place, you do have to admit it does fill a need in many communities.

Second, as someone originally from "out west", there are few if any areas in New England that are what I would consider "remote".  Let me know when you have to drive two hours to a McDonalds, mkay?

Third, it's NOT breaking news.  Unions (particularly the UFCW) have been going after WalMart for YEARS.  But even the unions realize they're fighting an uphill battle at best, and the dues which come from folks making little more than minimum wage to start isn't going to help their bottom line much.  They have much bigger fish to fry, so to speak--starting with just keeping the members they do have, which in a lot of cases is fairly unsuccesful.

Fourth, "come to your senses"?  Drama queen much? 

Finally, calling into question people's intellect when you come here with a quite obvious slant (cough, cough) and agenda ain't gonna score you more points.  My suggestion?  Calm down, sit down, and introduce yourself in a manner befitting an intelligent adult, not some Internet savvy (sort of) version of Honey Boo Boo Child.
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