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Offline 5412

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Hi,

I got this letter from a friend of mine who is retired Air Force.  I think the writer pretty well puts the stupid Ms. Williams right where she belongs.  The problem with these Hollywood nitwits is that the response will probably not even be understood by her.   :libssuck:

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Subject: Military Pay
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> This is an Airman's response to Cindy Williams' editorial piece in the
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> Washington Times about MILITARY PAY, it should be printed in all
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> newspapers across America
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> ??
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> On Nov. 12, Ms Cindy Williams (from Laverne and Shirley TV show) wrote a
> piece for the Washington Times, denouncing the pay raise(s) coming service
> members' way this year -- citing that the stated 13% wage increase was more than they deserve.
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> A young airman from Hill AFB responds to her article below.
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> He ought to get a bonus for this..
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> "Ms Williams:
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> I just had the pleasure of reading your column, "Our GIs earn enough" and
> I am a bit confused. Frankly, I'm wondering where this vaunted overpayment
> is going, because as far as I can tell, it disappears every month between
> DFAS (The Defense Finance and Accounting Service)and my bank account.
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> Checking my latest earnings statement I see that I make $1,117.80 before
> taxes. After taxes, I take home $874.20. When I run that through the
> calculator, I come up with an annual salary of $13,413.60 before taxes,
> and $10,490.40, after.
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> I work in the Air Force Network Control Center where I am part of the team
> responsible for a 5,000 host computer network I am involved with
> infrastructure segments, specifically with Cisco Systems equipment. A
> quick check under jobs for Network Technicians in the Washington , D.C.
> area reveals a position in my career field, requiring three years
> experience with my job. Amazingly, this job does NOT pay $13,413.60 a
> year. No, this job is being offered at $70,000 to $80,000 per annum.. I'm sure you can draw the obvious
> conclusions.
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> Given the tenor of your column, I would assume that you NEVER had the
> pleasure of serving your country in her armed forces. Before you take it
> upon yourself to once more castigate congressional and DOD leadership for
> attempting to get the families in the military's lowest pay brackets off of WIC and food
> stamps, I suggest that you join a group of deploying soldiers headed for
> AFGHANISTAN ; I leave the choice of service branch up to you.
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> Whatever choice you make, though, opt for the SIX month rotation: it will
> guarantee you the longest possible time away from your family and friends,
> thus giving you full "deployment experience." As your group prepares to
> board the plane, make sure to note the spouses and children who are saying
> good-bye to their loved ones Also take care to note that several families
> are still unsure of how they'll be able to make ends meet while the
> primary breadwinner is gone, obviously they've been squandering the "vast" piles of cash the government
> has been giving them.
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>Try to deploy over a major holiday; Christmas and Thanksgiving are
> perennial favorites. And when you're actually over there, sitting in a
> foxhole, shivering against the cold desert night; and the flight sergeant
> tells you that there aren't enough people on shift to relieve you for
> chow, remember this: trade whatever MRE (meal-ready- to-eat) you manage to
> get for the tuna noodle casserole or cheese tortellini, and add Tabasco to
> everything. This gives some flavor. Talk to your loved ones as often as
> you are permitted; it won't nearly be long enough or often enough, but
> take what you can get and be thankful for it. You may have picked up on the fact that I disagree
> with most of the points you present in your opened piece.
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> But, tomorrow from KABUL , I will defend to the death your right to say
> it. You see, I am an American fighting man, a guarantor of your First
> Amendment rights and every other right you cherish. On a daily basis, my
> brother and sister soldiers worldwide ensure that you and people like you
> can thumb your collective nose at us, all on a salary that is nothing
> short of pitiful and under conditions that would make most people cringe.
> We hemorrhage our best and brightest into the private sector because we
> can't offer the stability and pay of civilian companies.
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> And you, Ms. Williams, have the gall to say that we make more than we
> deserve? Rubbish!
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> A1C Michael Bragg Hill AFB AFNCC

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Re: Airman responds to Cindy Williams article in the Washington Times
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2009, 07:33:43 PM »
Wrong Cindy Williams. There just happens to be a columnist with the same name as the actress that played Shirley Feeney.

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Re: Airman responds to Cindy Williams article in the Washington Times
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2009, 07:46:08 PM »
Although I fully agree with the point the airman was making.  I wonder when he wrote it?

According to the DoD pay scale for 2008, even an E1 under 2 years of service grosses $1347.00 monthly.

Which is above the $1,117.80 mentioned in the e-mail.


An E1 in 2009 makes a bit more than in 2008.

FYI....

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/gipay.asp

False attribution to the actress mentioned in the e-mail and story dates back to 2001.
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Re: Airman responds to Cindy Williams article in the Washington Times
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2009, 08:40:25 PM »
Although I fully agree with the point the airman was making.  I wonder when he wrote it?

According to the DoD pay scale for 2008, even an E1 under 2 years of service grosses $1347.00 monthly.

Which is above the $1,117.80 mentioned in the e-mail.


An E1 in 2009 makes a bit more than in 2008.

FYI....

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/gipay.asp

False attribution to the actress mentioned in the e-mail and story dates back to 2001.

Hi,

Two things.  First I plan to send the snopes stuff back to the guy who sent it to me.  This is a first for him but he needs to know just as much as I did.

Second, someone investigates Snopes and discoverd it was basically a guy and his wife who had the website and their credibility really came into question.  I am sure they got this one right but there were others where they supposedly just guessed or something.

Is there another "truth" site that anyone know of where these things can be checked out?

thanks,
5412

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Re: Airman responds to Cindy Williams article in the Washington Times
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2009, 08:46:05 PM »
Hi,

Two things.  First I plan to send the snopes stuff back to the guy who sent it to me.  This is a first for him but he needs to know just as much as I did.

Second, someone investigates Snopes and discoverd it was basically a guy and his wife who had the website and their credibility really came into question.  I am sure they got this one right but there were others where they supposedly just guessed or something.

Is there another "truth" site that anyone know of where these things can be checked out?

thanks,
5412

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blpayraise.htm.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/cindywilliams.htm

I can not personally vouch for either of these sites.

I found them via googling Cindy Williams + military pay.

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Re: Airman responds to Cindy Williams article in the Washington Times
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2009, 08:58:18 PM »
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blpayraise.htm.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/cindywilliams.htm

I can not personally vouch for either of these sites.

I found them via googling Cindy Williams + military pay.



Hi,

Thanks a lot. 

You know I have to say something.  It is really starting to bother me about all the stuff we are seeing that appears to be made up stuff.  First, it wastes our time and second it really shows to me that we are vulnerable.  By that I mean that BO supposedly has a bunch of folks capable of sending out like a million emails or something.  Let an issue come up and they can flood the email inboxes of half the country with propaganda.....  It is also one of those things where I do not believe that you should fight fire with fire....  Seems to me the internet can be rigged just like the mainstream media.

Thanks for taking the time to check this stuff out.  I will confess I have not used Google and realized that i should be doing so.  Never professed to be a computer wizard but I think I can handle that one.

regards,
5412

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Re: Airman responds to Cindy Williams article in the Washington Times
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 04:40:52 PM »
Hi,

Thanks a lot. 

You know I have to say something.  It is really starting to bother me about all the stuff we are seeing that appears to be made up stuff.  First, it wastes our time and second it really shows to me that we are vulnerable.  By that I mean that BO supposedly has a bunch of folks capable of sending out like a million emails or something.  Let an issue come up and they can flood the email inboxes of half the country with propaganda.....  It is also one of those things where I do not believe that you should fight fire with fire....  Seems to me the internet can be rigged just like the mainstream media.

Thanks for taking the time to check this stuff out.  I will confess I have not used Google and realized that i should be doing so.  Never professed to be a computer wizard but I think I can handle that one.

regards,
5412

shouldn't something like this be prosecuted as spam?  i for one would now welcome or appreciate that

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Re: Airman responds to Cindy Williams article in the Washington Times
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 05:43:46 PM »
Wrong Cindy Williams. There just happens to be a columnist with the same name as the actress that played Shirley Feeney.

Cindy Williams?? 

Oh man who next the Professor??

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Re: Airman responds to Cindy Williams article in the Washington Times
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2009, 06:21:36 AM »
The best way to avoid propagating BS, no matter who it favors, is to not forward these tales without checking them out.  I like Snopes myself, some here don't but I haven't seen any of them come up with anything better.  After scanning through Truthorfiction, I doubt they'd like it any better, it appears to go very slightly Left of center on some of the topical political background.
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