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"Threats to our Democracy"
« on: August 07, 2021, 08:29:20 AM »
I know we are a constitutional federal republic, but the term "the greatest threat to our democracy since..." is bandied about quite a bit in the press. I'm not here to argue semantics and minutiae.

We keep hearing so much about "threats to our democracy" as if the potential for the entire structure of the government suddenly being swept away is a bad thing.

Unless the people are free to choose their system of government - without coercion - it's not a democracy.

The very definition of "democracy" demands we ask the people, "Well, how do you think things ought to be managed?" and then accept the risk of whatever answers they may conjure.

A true threat to a true democracy can only come from within the government itself; when the people responsible for its administration, make it so unpalatable the citizenry demands their abolition and the institution of a new form of government.
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Re: "Threats to our Democracy"
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2021, 08:53:26 AM »
Interesting that this should come up. Couple days ago I was looking at a government document from 2015 that spelled out all of the positions in the federal system (boards and commissions only -- cabinet/senior positions are listed in a "Plum Book" (interesting name for a book, dontcha think?) that need presidential appointment/nomination, full-time and part-time).

Just do a quick scan through these piles of shit and you'll see for yourself how bad it's gotten. We're choking in our own filth.

Summary:
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The President makes appointments to certain positions within the federal government, either
using authorities granted to the President alone or with the advice and consent of the Senate.
There are some 149 full-time leadership positions on 34 federal regulatory and other collegial
boards and commissions for which the Senate provides advice and consent. This report identifies
all nominations submitted to the Senate for full-time positions on these 34 boards and
commissions during the 113th Congress.

Information for each board and commission is presented in profiles and tables. The profiles
provide information on leadership structures and statutory requirements (such as term limits and
party balance requirements). The tables include full-time positions confirmed by the Senate, pay
levels for these positions, incumbents as of the end of the 113th Congress, incumbents’ parties
(where balance is required), and appointment action within each board or commission. Additional
summary information across all 34 boards and commissions appears in the appendix.

During the 113th Congress, the President submitted 114 nominations to the Senate for full-time
positions on these boards and commissions (most of the remaining positions on these boards and
commissions were not vacant during that time). Of these 114 nominations, 77 were confirmed, 7
were withdrawn, and 30 were returned to the President. At the end of the 113th Congress, 24
incumbents were serving past the expiration of their terms. In addition, there were 22 vacancies
among the 149 positions.

Information for this report was compiled using the Senate nominations database of the Legislative
Information System (LIS) at http://www.lis.gov/nomis/, the Congressional Record (daily edition),
the Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents, telephone discussions with agency officials,
agency websites, the United States Code, and the 2012 Plum Book (United States Government
Policy and Supporting Positions).

What's the "Plum Book" you ask? Summary:

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This publication contains data (as of June 30, 2016) on over 9,000 Federal civil service leadership and support positions in the legislative and executive branches of the Federal Government that may be subject to noncompetitive appointment (e.g., positions such as agency heads and their immediate subordinates, policy executives and advisors, and aides who report to these officials). The duties of many such positions may involve advocacy of Administration policies and programs and the incumbents usually have a close and confidential working relationship with the agency head or other key officials.

Burn it down and start all over again.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-PLUMBOOK-2016/pdf/GPO-PLUMBOOK-2016.pdf

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R44043/3
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Re: "Threats to our Democracy"
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2021, 02:01:19 PM »
Democracy = Mob Rule PERIOD
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Re: "Threats to our Democracy"
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2021, 07:30:44 PM »
Democracy = Mob Rule PERIOD

You are 100% correct old dog!  "Democracy = Mob Rule PERIOD" ...

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America is a republic and not a pure democracy. The contemporary efforts to weaken our republican customs and institutions in the name of greater equality thus run against the efforts by America’s Founders to defend our country from the potential excesses of democratic majorities.

See more here:

https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy

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Re: "Threats to our Democracy"
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2021, 06:18:27 AM »
Fixed it for you:

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America is a republic and not a pure democracy. The contemporary efforts to weaken our republican customs and institutions in the name of greater equality thus run against the efforts by America’s Founders to defend our country from the potential excesses of democratic Democrat majorities.
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Re: "Threats to our Democracy"
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2021, 08:47:31 AM »


Just do a quick scan through these piles of shit and you'll see for yourself how bad it's gotten. We're choking in our own filth.



Burn it down and start all over again.


I'm getting very pessimistic that we are at the point where the US is going to burn down, the question is who will land the match on the lake of gasoline and who, if anyone, is going to rebuild it?  Many attempts to squeeze America into the Revelation/end times timeline fall short, my thoughts are possibly we are an irrelevant wasteland when that doody hits the fan? 
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Re: "Threats to our Democracy"
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2021, 09:04:27 AM »
I'm getting very pessimistic that we are at the point where the US is going to burn down, the question is who will land the match on the lake of gasoline and who, if anyone, is going to rebuild it?  Many attempts to squeeze America into the Revelation/end times timeline fall short, my thoughts are possibly we are an irrelevant wasteland when that doody hits the fan?

I strongly suspect the far left is baiting patriots to "land the match".  As they control the military the rebellion will be ruthlessly crushed.  Realistically: No clear objective, no strategy, no organization, no secure communications, no logistics.  "Militias" are a joke, half their members are FBI informers.  Defeat, martial law and totalitarian rule will follow.

Patriots must keep their powder dry.
Truly, whoever can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.  - Voltaire