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Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« on: November 08, 2008, 11:24:37 PM »
hell, we're screwed.  credit cards are next.  THIS is the slippery slope of socialism.

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Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
With the nation's automotive industry hemorrhaging cash, congressional leaders called on the Bush administration yesterday to offer government assistance to the car companies as part of the Treasury Department's $700 billion emergency rescue program.

The call came one day after General Motors, the nation's largest auto manufacturer, announced another multibillion dollar loss for the third quarter and said it was running out of money fast. Ford, the second-biggest car company, also reported heavy losses. Unless the government steps in, analysts warned, GM could face bankruptcy, endangering the livelihoods of about 100,000 North American autoworkers and hundreds of thousands of others whose jobs depend on the industry.

In a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr., House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) asked Paulson to "review the feasibility . . . of providing temporary assistance to the automobile industry during the current financial crisis."

The letter notes that Congress granted Paulson broad discretion to use the bailout money to "restore financial market stability. A healthy automobile manufacturing sector is essential to the restoration of financial market security," the letter continues, as well as to "the overall health of our economy, and the livelihood of the automobile sector's workforce."

If the request is granted, it would expand the federal government's role in private enterprise far beyond the financial sector. Critics have warned that a bailout of GM would attract a long line of other companies to Washington to argue that their survival, too, is critical to the economic health of the country. The move would push the Bush administration to decide winners and losers in yet another huge sector of the economy, and it would force President-elect Barack Obama to manage a complex restructuring of the ailing automotive industry.

The Treasury has so far declined to assist the automakers, which have been devastated by the twin shocks of a collapsing credit market and the sharpest drop in auto sales in more than two decades. But as the news from Detroit has grown increasingly grim, lawmakers from both parties, Michigan officials, auto industry executives and labor leaders have stepped up their campaign for federal aid.

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Re: Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 11:28:46 PM »
BOHICA!!!
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Re: Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 11:29:58 PM »
They should let the automakers file for bankruptcy protection and be done with it. They will re-organize and get back to business as usual. We don't need to keep bailing out private enterprises.
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Re: Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 11:32:27 PM »
I hereby retract my support for the initial bailout.  we should have let the recession burn.  we lost the white house anyway, so what the hell?

my apologies to hawkgirl, among others.  she was right, and I was wrong.


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Re: Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008, 11:32:40 PM »
GM already got $25 billion back in September... now they want another $25B.  All they're doing now is throwing good money after bad.

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Re: Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2008, 11:43:58 PM »
I hereby retract my support for the initial bailout.  we should have let the recession burn.  we lost the white house anyway, so what the hell?

my apologies to hawkgirl, among others.  she was right, and I was wrong.



The only thing that trillion dollar and climbing bailout has done is to delay the inevitable.  The market was well over due for a serious "correction" and the government should have just let it happen.

In the long run they have merely made things worse.
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Re: Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2008, 11:53:11 PM »
Nah, let's just nationalize the entire ****ing economy. 

What a bunch of idiots.  Bad business decisions made with YOUR money.
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Re: Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 11:56:30 PM »
Nah, let's just nationalize the entire ****ing economy. 

What a bunch of idiots.  Bad business decisions made with YOUR money.

that may be what is about to happen.  the "crisis" could be used as an excuse, and the only "remedy" is to nationalize the health care and mortgage facets of the economy.

it could happen.  we already elected the perfect guy for it.

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Re: Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2008, 09:55:18 AM »
Well f*ck me.

I'm with WE. Let the damn thing burn to the ground and start over. Why should all of us hardworking taxpayers bear the brunt of THEIR failures???
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Re: Reid, Pelosi Urge Treasury to Extend Aid to Automakers
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 10:08:41 AM »
They should let the automakers file for bankruptcy protection and be done with it. They will re-organize and get back to business as usual. We don't need to keep bailing out private enterprises.

I agree with the bankruptcy.  If the government takes a stake in these pigs, it should only be after the bankruptcy, and then one of the conditions should be total conversion of the gold-plated UAW retirement structure (similar to what happened with the railroadworker's when the underlying industry began to decline and couldn't support the back-end load from the retirees, except that the UAW plan is an order of magnitude more costly even in adjusted dollars).  Swimming with the anchor of the 'negotiated' UAW retirement system, the gift that keeps on taking,' has been the last straw for this industry.  Not that agreeing to it wasn't their own fault, but that's one of the bad decisions they made long ago that needs to be purged in bankruptcy now.
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