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Title: I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
Post by: dutch508 on June 14, 2019, 11:30:00 AM
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Star Member Recursion (53,113 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212188253

I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
The worst thing is, these are literally the exact same dipshits who got us into Iraq. Almost 20 years ago.

We went into Iraq in 2003- that's four years from 20, by the way. Unless you are talking about 1991... thats 28 years ago. I was there both times.

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Star Member centrarchus (19 posts)

1. Not so sure.

The footage of the Iranian patrol boat trying to remove an unexploded mine on one of the tankers is odd. Were they trying to remove evidence or doing a good deed? I doubt the latter. Why endanger your personnel? Food for thought.

Who's mines!?! OUR MINES!!!

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sarabelle (367 posts)

3. How do you know they didn't find it and were trying to remove it to save lives??

There is absolutely more to this story than we are being told. Go to other than US news sites.

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Star Member lark (12,725 posts)

4. Are "they" capable of faking video evidence - why sure they are and would do it in a heartbeat.

I don't believe anything released by drumpf's administration of traitors, grifters, liars and snakes.

Edit - fixed typo

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beachbum bob (10,148 posts)

2. neither do I, too damn convenient.

why would Iran even consider such an act? No sense on their side at all but we know why Trump would have it done

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Star Member harumph (293 posts)

10. I disagree respectfully.

The released video clearly shows (Iran) removing one of the limpets. They wouldn't even be lending
a hand unless to halt a situation that was quickly spiraling out of control. This type of brinkmanship
is common with a regime that sends fast boats out to harass ships routinely.
They pushed it a bit too far. The not so subtle message is that they could block the
Straits of Hormuz EVEN by "accident" by "****ing up" if they want and throttle oil shipments.
Dangerous game - but the regime is desperate. Plausible deniability.

They're genuine fools who want us to believe they're also crazy ****wits.

That said, I do not support military intervention - we need real diplomacy to dial this situation back ASAP. However, at
present, we have a worthless administration and a depleted state department.

I understand your hesitancy to disbelieve. It becomes an automatic reaction to
such a mendacious presidency, which I often share.
The Navy doesn't really want to get into a pissing match in the Gulf.

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Star Member Recursion (53,113 posts)

12. What about the video "Clearly shows Iran"?

Why do you think those are Iranian boats?

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lame54 (23,144 posts)

25. You are a Bolton/Pompeo sucker...

If there are a lot more like you out there - we are going to war

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Star Member harumph (293 posts)

19. This administration isn't monolithic.

There is no upside for Trump in this. His agenda stops at his nose. He's completely out of
depth on this. Don't think that the Iranians don't sense our political weakness and
administrative incompetence. If I were them, I might have done the same thing. Make
the US think twice about dicking with them - because OOOOOPS - shit happens!

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Star Member harumph (293 posts)

20. The article you site also specifies:

"Iran has previously used mines against oil tankers in 1987 and 1988 in the "Tanker War," when the U.S. Navy escorted ships through the region."

Yes - if this admin says "water is wet" some would dispute (and I understand that).

This whole shitfest could have been avoided by diplomacy.

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Star Member safeinOhio (16,198 posts)

34. But Iran denies it.

Very strongly. Isn’t that enough for trump?

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Title: Re: I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
Post by: SVPete on June 14, 2019, 12:13:37 PM
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Title: Re: I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on June 14, 2019, 12:56:07 PM
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beachbum bob (10,148 posts)

2. neither do I, too damn convenient.

why would Iran even consider such an act? No sense on their side at all but we know why Trump would have it done
Why would an oil producing country, whose main source of income is exporting oil, want to limit the flow of other countries oil thru the gulf? It makes no sense. /DUmmie
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Title: Re: I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
Post by: jukin on June 14, 2019, 01:07:05 PM
There is nothing too stupid that a DUmmy DUchebag will not believe if against a conservative or for a socialist democrat.

NOTHING.
Title: Re: I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
Post by: FlaGator on June 14, 2019, 01:23:46 PM
Maybe some cinder blocks and chicken wire will prove it to them.
Title: Re: I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
Post by: Wineslob on June 14, 2019, 03:35:34 PM
The epitome of "blinded by hate".
Title: Re: I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 14, 2019, 06:28:58 PM
There is nothing too stupid that a DUmmy DUchebag will not believe if against a conservative or for a socialist democrat.

NOTHING.

I think that is part and parcel of being a liberal. 

I swear President Trump could invent a cure for cancer, ED, hair loss, and come up with a pill to maintain ones youth indefinitely, give it all away for free and the dummies would whine that it is unfair to children and young adults.
Title: Re: I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
Post by: SVPete on June 14, 2019, 06:38:10 PM
I think that is part and parcel of being a liberal. 

I swear President Trump could invent a cure for cancer, ED, hair loss, and come up with a pill to maintain ones youth indefinitely, give it all away for free and the dummies would whine that it is unfair to children and young adults.

Not to mention unemployment in the health care sector of the economy.
Title: Re: I don't buy the Iran mine story for a damned second
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 14, 2019, 08:34:59 PM
Not to mention unemployment in the health care sector of the economy.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

The poor, poor, pitifully poor folks in the health care sector!   :cheersmate:  Will circumsize for food! 

H5 for nailing it!!!