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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-26-08 12:01 PMOriginal message Did a few different German actors play the role of a non-existent Adolf Hitler? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=224398&mesg_id=224398We have heard that there might never have been a Jesus and that somebody other than Shakespeare might have written the plays allegedly written by somebody named "Shakespeare."Now, how do we know that there was actually a real person named "Adolf Hitler"? A secret group of conspirators who are skilled in arts and design (including the arts of acting, public speaking, and advertising), can easily create a persona who doesn't exist. Once the group of conspirators acquires political power, it can be totalitarian and continue to keep information under tight control.
spooked911 (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-26-08 12:14 PMResponse to Original message 1. No, there was a real Hitler but I have read he used many "dopplegangers" to impersonate him, for various reasons, including faking his death.See Greg Hallet "Hitler Was a British Agent".
wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-27-08 12:37 AMResponse to Reply #4 5. great point! so do the official anti-truthers seem to believe what ever the established version is. Even with no real investigation.Some of them even believe that the 9/11 commission was an investigation.
wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 03:11 PMResponse to Reply #11 14. that's your tale... Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 03:11 PM by wildbilln864I'm sitting here on mine. Bush did not do 9/11! He just allowed it in order to have his PNAC buddies's WOT!
wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 03:34 PMResponse to Reply #15 16. I'm arguing for an investigation! I don't know the truth of what and how it happened. And I will continue to push for a real investigation. I will support all efforts to achieve that result. No planes? I think there were at least two. Probably three but some things are suspicious.Demolition? I think so. Buildings don't just collapse completely from damage or fire. Never have and never will!There are reports of molten steel under all three buildings. How'd that happen? You have no answer but you evidently think it was a normal occurrence. That's ridiculous. And who benefited is most suspicious! PNAC, Bush. War profiteers all profit. The alledged perps? Not so much. You think they were smart enough to pull 9/11 off but not smart enough to see the outcome? The war against their allies?I can't buy that. Sell it elsewhere.
rayofreason (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-27-08 01:50 PMResponse to Reply #8 12. The super-rich did not bankrupt the country... ...what did it was a huge number of bad loans.10% of mortgages were lent out to people with no credit, or for houses too expensive, or on adjustable terms that that could not be sustained, with no money down, interest only, etc.Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bought all the bad paper and recycled it into the economy. Since they were taking it up, many banks said "what the hell - offer more interest only ARMs". Sure, some people were sucked in by predatory lenders, but not all, and not most. Most of these folks made a bad decision based on the expectation that houses, like tulip bulbs, would continue to skyrocket in price. I know several people who bought houses in 2004 and 2005 just to flip them. Now, the boom has gone bust, as they always do. But this time, the numbers are big, and because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac covered it up, and injected all this bad stuff into the financial bloodstream, the credit markets have seized up. Each lost dollar of assets means 10 dollars of lost liquidity - money that cannot be lent or circulated in the economy. So something has to be done.So it remains to the 90% of homeowners, like me, who paid their bills on time and have reasonable mortgages, to bail out the other 10% in some way. What I want to make sure is that however it is done, it does not encourage bad, irresponsible behavior in the future.Want to read something funny that captures the whole mess? Check this out.http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2007/12/please-don... And note that it was posted in December 2007. Funny and prescient.
Redstone (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-30-08 03:42 PMResponse to Original message 20. Oh, **** me.This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on DU, or anywhere else. Redstone
QuoteRedstone (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-30-08 03:42 PMResponse to Original message 20. Oh, **** me.This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on DU, or anywhere else. Redstone I was afraid Redstone might be setting the bar quite high, but on reflection he may very well be right.
Hitler was really an actor hired by Karl Rove so we could go to war with Germany so he and his buddies could make gazillions of dollars.
Quote from: bijou on October 01, 2008, 08:57:19 AMQuoteRedstone (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-30-08 03:42 PMResponse to Original message 20. Oh, **** me.This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on DU, or anywhere else. Redstone I was afraid Redstone might be setting the bar quite high, but on reflection he may very well be right. It's a contender, but it would take a blue-ribbon commission a year to select the true "Dumbest" in that miasma of stupidity.
Quote from: Freeper on October 01, 2008, 11:41:39 AMHitler was really an actor hired by Karl Rove so we could go to war with Germany so he and his buddies could make gazillions of dollars. So Teh Rove and W's grand daddy's were in cahoots back then?Who knew!
Boojatta (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-27-08 11:35 AMOriginal message Does anything actually connect modern Israel and the year 1948? Advertisements [?]Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 11:36 AM by BoojattaIsn't it possible that there is no connection?I'm not suggesting that Israel doesn't exist now. I'm suggesting that it might have been founded earlier. For example, is it possible that there was a secret provision in the Treaty of Versailles that was implemented before 1948? Alternatively, is it possible that modern Israel was established before the Treaty of Versailles?
Boojatta (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-27-08 12:06 PMResponse to Reply #1 2. My question is whether the government of modern Israel existed before 1948.Also, the discovery of previously secret provisions in the Treaty of Versailles would be a big deal to many historians.
William Seger (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-27-08 03:16 PMResponse to Reply #5 6. Do you mean, like... Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 03:16 PM by William Seger... in another dimension or alternate universe? What would this "actual government" have actually governed before 1948?
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