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duforsure (10,827 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214958244What's stopping trump from selling more pardons after he leaves office,Then later claim he gave one? With no complete full list given, he can exploit the pardon powers beyond holding office. Something maybe Congress need to address before, not after he abuses it.
duforsure (10,827 posts) 4. He could write their name down on a piece of paper claiming proof.At any time without a documented pardon list
Star Member JHB (32,422 posts) 8. I think the area of concern is so-called "secret pardons"......since the clauses which enumerate the pardon power don't explicitly require them to be made public. This would open the possibility of Trump trading favors in exchange for "secret" pardons that are backdated to his presidency. Or even ones that were actually made before he left office, and were dangled in front of people he wanted to pressure.Naturally, the legitimacy of any such "secret pardon" that comes to light after his presidency is suspect and would almost automatically be challenged in court.
Star Member JHB (32,422 posts) 3. Precisely. This is the big mark against allowing "secret" pardons......and would be central to challenging them in court. The legitimacy of any such pardon is inherently suspect.But "Congress" can't address anything until Republican Leader McConnell becomes Minority Mitch.
duforsure (10,827 posts) 6. Exactly,Without a documented list how would anyone, including prosecutors, know who has one, and who doesn't, then use it to obstruct justice, and delay consequences .
duforsure (10,827 posts) 15. Right, but he still could illegally sell pardonsWithout a compleat list who was given one, what's stopping him from selling pardons after he leaves office claiming he gave it before he left office for money. I understand the in court actions to make them admit one way or another to find out, but what's stopping trump from doing this without having a documented list Couldn't he still illegitimately do it?
duforsure (10,827 posts) 9. As long as there isn't a complete list given,He can corrupt that power, claiming they were pardoned by him before he left office, and write their name down on a piece of paper, , and without a full list might do it to raise more money with it. Trump if given the chance will exploit anything for money for himself.
duforsure (10,827 posts) 21. It's a loophole that could be exploited ,Secret pardons are legal now, but shouldn't be. In court it can be made public if someone has one, but what's stopping him from selling one after he leaves without a documented list? He could write a name down and have a minion claim he did it before he left office, for money.
duforsure (10,827 posts) 29. I know legally he can't give pardons after leaving office,But is there someplace he has to give a complete list of who he has?
duforsure (10,827 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214958244What's stopping trump from selling more pardons after he leaves office,
Does Craigslist have a category for selling pardons?
